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Kato
02-12-2004, 08:08 AM
This is ridiculous. Education, our military overseas, the environment, health care, infastructure, and scheduling bigger pool tournaments should be on the list of things our Congress and President deal with. Instead I read this little tid bit in the SunSentinel. I just don't get it, LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!

Lawmakers Rail Against Super Bowl Flash

By JONATHAN D. SALANT
Associated Press Writer
Posted February 12 2004, 8:01 AM EST
WASHINGTON -- Janet Jackson's exposed breast was the talk of Capitol Hill on Wednesday, with lawmakers and regulators saying it's the latest example of all that's wrong with TV and should serve as the impetus for government to get tough with broadcasters.

At a pair of hearings, lawmakers excoriated Mel Karmazin, president of Viacom Inc. His company owns CBS, which broadcast the raunchy Super Bowl halftime show that included Jackson.

Members of the House Telecommunications Committee spent more than two hours grilling Karmazin, who again apologized for the show that ended with singer Justin Timberlake tearing off part of Jackson's top and exposing her right breast to 90 million TV viewers.

"You knew what you were doing," said Rep. Heather Wilson, R-N.M., her voice cracking. "You knew that shock and indecency creates a buzz that moves market share and lines your pockets."

Karmazin insisted that CBS and MTV did not know about plans to rip off Jackson's top, nor the crotch-grabbing dance steps that were also included in the halftime show. He said none of those actions took place during rehearsals.

"Everyone at Viacom and everyone at CBS and everyone at MTV was shocked and appalled and embarrassed at what had happened," Karmazin said.

To prevent a repeat, he said CBS will air live programming on a five-minute delay, which was done for the Grammy awards this week. He said the network-owned stations would also buy equipment so that locally televised live programs would also be time-delayed. And he said the network was reviewing its standards for commercials in response to criticism over a movie trailer for a horror film and Super Bowl ads showing a flatulent horse and a crotch-biting dog.

The halftime show, produced by CBS' corporate cousin MTV, drew more than 200,000 complaints to the Federal Communications Commission.

National Football League Commissioner Paul Tagliabue, also testifying before the House panel, said he expressed concerns about the halftime show in December and even considered dismissing MTV as producer. But he decided to move forward following a meeting with CBS President Les Moonves, and because of MTV's track record in producing the 2001 halftime show.

"Clearly, there was a wide gap over what was appropriate," Tagliabue said. "We should have recognized it earlier. We gave the keys to the car to someone else to drive without assuring they knew how to drive the car safely, and they crashed."

All five FCC commissioners appeared before the House panel and the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee and urged Congress to give them a more powerful tool to use against broadcasters.

Legislation in both houses would increase the maximum fine for indecency from $27,500 to $275,000. The FCC already has said it will begin fining broadcasters for each incident rather than each program.

"Cost-of-doing-business fines will never stop Big Media's slide to the bottom," Commissioner Michael Copps said. "All of the fines we have imposed against Viacom could be paid for by adding one commercial to the Super Bowl, and the company would probably end up with a profit."

One objection to raising the fines came from the American Civil Liberties Union, which said the higher penalties could discourage free speech over the airwaves. "These bills look to turn down the thermostat and chill broadcast speech," said ACLU legislative counsel Marvin Johnson said in a statement.

Viacom is no stranger to the fight over indecency. Its Infinity Broadcasting subsidiary paid $1.7 million in 1995 to settle several cases against disc jockey Howard Stern, and the FCC last year proposed fining the company $357,000 for a radio segment on the "Opie and Anthony Show" in which a couple was said to be having sex in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral.

Viacom is contesting the fine for its broadcast of the Opie and Anthony show. Karmazin said the show was tasteless and gross, but not indecent.

He called on the FCC to issue rules defining what is an indecent program.

"What's happened is the standard has changed," Karmazin said. "It is not exactly clear what is meant by indecency.

FCC Chairman Michael Powell said the commission has been able to enforce indecency standards for decades, and doesn't need to go through a time-consuming process to write a rule.

"It's a red herring," Powell said. "There is no ambiguity with the indecency standard. It's existed for 30 years

Kato~~~I'm appalled.

Rich R.
02-12-2004, 09:11 AM
It amazes me that our elected officials have nothing better to do, than to investigate and hold hearings about Janet's Boob. /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Keep in mind, that it is now February and this is the same Congress and President that have not been able to pass a budget for 2004, which was due in October of last year. I can't tell you how many employee work hours and how much much money is wasted because they can't pass a budget.
Of course, this is in addition to all the other issues on their table, mentioned by Kato.

After all, it happened in a split second and you had to be staring at the TV screen to have seen it. Who watches the half time show anyway? I have to wonder how many times a lot of people had to rewind the VCR and how much time they spent searching the internet, before they decided they were "shocked and appauled."
I have had better looks, at a Boob, in the shopping mall, when a young mother decides it is feeding time. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I think the President and Congress should do the job, they were elected to do, and keep their hands off Janet's Boob.
Uh, Hmmm, or something like that. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Qtec
02-12-2004, 10:03 AM
Lot of fuss over a nipple.

Amazing.

Q

Wally_in_Cincy
02-12-2004, 10:43 AM
The only obscene thing in this whole affair is the grandstanding Congress

Rich R.
02-12-2004, 11:14 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> The only obscene thing in this whole affair is the grandstanding Congress <hr /></blockquote>
Tap, Tap, Tap. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Kato
02-12-2004, 11:55 AM
Do these people really think we care? Is there any significance to the the actions of these entertainers (I use that term loosely) on mine or anyone elses life? Does there really need to be a full scale Congressional meeting on it? Look, CBS apologized, they made a mistake. They trusted adults to act like adults and it backfired on them. They've taken steps so that it never happens again. Fine them and get it over with.

Don't worry though, instead of making sure the elderly get proper medical or the children get good schooling or the Everglades are taken care of we have to drag this over the coals in the government and the media. Surely some of the beaurocrats out there are saying to themselves "why are we wasting our time, we could be playing golf" and I'd rather them waste my tax dollars playing golf than using my tax dollars to debate the obvious.

They are however solidifying my views of politicians. They are stupid. Not stupid because they all have Havard, Yale, Stanford PhD's but stupid because they can't excercise restraint and use common sense.

Kato

Wally_in_Cincy
02-12-2004, 12:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Kato:</font><hr>
....Surely some of the beaurocrats out there are saying to themselves "why are we wasting our time, we could be playing golf"...<hr /></blockquote>

If the politicians spent more time playing golf rather than passing meddlesome needless laws we would be much better off.

eg8r
02-12-2004, 02:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Do these people really think we care? Is there any significance to the the actions of these entertainers (I use that term loosely) on mine or anyone elses life? Does there really need to be a full scale Congressional meeting on it? Look, CBS apologized, they made a mistake. They trusted adults to act like adults and it backfired on them. They've taken steps so that it never happens again. Fine them and get it over with.
<hr /></blockquote> Amen. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ QUOTE ]
They are however solidifying my views of politicians. They are stupid. Not stupid because they all have Havard, Yale, Stanford PhD's but stupid because they can't excercise restraint and use common sense.
<hr /></blockquote> I am guessing a good portion of those in politics that have been to these schools only made it there because mommy and daddy went there or had a lot of clout. I also doubt very many if any have a PhD. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r

SpiderMan
02-12-2004, 04:05 PM
I'm tired of being nipple and rhymed.

SpiderMan

Vagabond
02-14-2004, 08:50 AM
They are trying to please the religious fanatics to stay in power.There is no hope....
Vagabond /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Qtec
02-14-2004, 10:05 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I'm tired of being nipple and rhymed. <hr /></blockquote>

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Q