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justbrake
02-24-2004, 04:17 PM
when purchasing a cue (on ebay) or another site do you use a escrow service!

SPetty
02-24-2004, 07:29 PM
I bought an $80 cue on eBay. No escrow.

I bought a $150 cue on eBay. No escrow.

I bought a $500 cue on eBay. No escrow.

No problems with any of the transactions - they were all very good.

tateuts
02-24-2004, 09:35 PM
I have not used them yet but would do it if a buyer asked - but only through Scott at Proficient Billiards. I haven't found a need to use one for buying because I'm usually well protected. What good is an escrow service unless the escrow person knows something about cues? A guy could send most of them an Adams, say it's a Balabuska, and they wouldn't know the difference.

I spoke with Scott today - most of the escrows he is handling are on international sales.

There are some scams going around with false escrow services too - be careful.

Chris

moblsv
02-25-2004, 09:47 AM
In the early days of eBay I would not do a transaction without it. One example was a camera I won where the guy on the other end refused to use escrow so I refused to pay. I am certain that had I sent the money I would have never seen the camera or the money again. Now I just do a little research in the feedbacks and maybe send a question to the seller if I have any concerns. So far, I have had nothing but good experiences with my 'modern day' eBay purchases.

Do be careful. There are a lot of people still trying to hijack accounts with good feedback scores and scam you (see the ebay scam threads in non-pool related forum). If something seems fishy I would bail.

SpiderMan
02-25-2004, 09:49 AM
How does it work? Does the escrow person receive both the money and the merchandise, then forward both simultaneously to the participants? For his fee (I assume there is a fee), does the service provider guarantee that the merchandise is as advertised, and what does he do if he is wrong?

SpiderMan

justbrake
02-25-2004, 09:56 AM
I never heard of the one tateus is talking about but from what ebay says is that the product owner ships it (but not before the money is held on to the escrow service) to make shure everything is ok to make shure your getting what you paid for,then you give the OK to send the money to the seller. I think!

SpiderMan
02-25-2004, 10:05 AM
OK, so it sounds like the escrow service doesn't personally inspect the merchandise.

Let's say I sell you a cue. You send the money to escrow, and I ship the cue. You receive it and don't like it, so you send it back. Does the escrow service hold your money until I verify that I have received the cue back in original condition? If I say there is fresh damage, do they hang onto your money until we somehow agree?

SpiderMan

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote justbrake:</font><hr> I never heard of the one tateus is talking about but from what ebay says is that the product owner ships it (but not before the money is held on to the escrow service) to make shure everything is ok to make shure your getting what you paid for,then you give the OK to send the money to the seller. I think! <hr /></blockquote>

justbrake
02-25-2004, 07:32 PM
I can't answer that for sure, but probably you have to work out a deal before the money is released

Billy
02-25-2004, 09:24 PM
well if she's extra pretty there's no tellin' what I'll ... /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif ... sorry /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif thought you said escort service

tateuts
02-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Here's how Proficient does it:

http://www.proficientbilliards.com/services/escrowservice.htm

What I like about them is Scott knows cues, so you're having an expert look at the cue for you. He takes pictures and assesses the quality of the cue. If there are problems, such as separation, warpage, etc. he'll let you know, and he'll let you know the repair costs as well.

The escrow service e-bay uses is www.escrow.com (http://www.escrow.com) and it is the only one they recommend. I would not be inclined to use them personally, although they are more of a mediator and fundholder directly between buyer and seller. I don't know exactly how competent they are.

Chris

dooziexx
02-26-2004, 09:37 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote justbrake:</font><hr> when purchasing a cue (on ebay) or another site do you use a escrow service! <hr /></blockquote>

When buying a cue outside of ebay, ie someone you met in cyberworld, use an escrow service. I just recently got ripped off $1100 by someone... Thats a costly lesson!

justbrake
02-26-2004, 01:31 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote dooziexx:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote justbrake:</font><hr> when purchasing a cue (on ebay) or another site do you use a escrow service! <hr /></blockquote>

When buying a cue outside of ebay, ie someone you met in cyberworld, use an escrow service. I just recently got ripped off $1100 by someone... Thats a costly lesson! <hr /></blockquote>

here's email I just got today from (maybe an ebay user) didn't really check it and I really don't care,

Hello dear ebay member I`m sorry for disturbing you and for the way that I got in contact with you but I have seen that you are bidding for the VINTAGE 69 JOSS POOL CUE CUES &amp; FELLINI CASE (Item # 3661896207) ) and I just want to tell you that I have for sale one for a resonable price($1200 shipping taxes included) .If want to buy my item I`m waiting for your reply asap. Thank`s and have a nice day.


??!
trabalo

and this is the iteam there reffering to=
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3661896207&amp;category=21 212&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBBI%3AIT&amp;rd=1

I get alot of these! not that im going to bite, I use to tell them throw it up for auction

tateuts
02-26-2004, 03:12 PM
Yeah, right. This guy just so happens to have the exact same 1969 Joss and a Fellini case laying around he's willing to sell cheap!

I bet this is the "escrow service" con job. He says he has the item then wants you to do it through his b.s. escrow service - Federal Escrow or whatever. I did a thread on this a few weeks ago.

Chris

Bassmaster
02-27-2004, 02:57 AM
I have a lot of experience with ebay...bought 4 cars, and probably 10 items over 500.00. I just purchased a 1995 Schon SL 23,high end cue that retailed for 2400.00, paid 900.00 for it with 2 ivory ferrule shafts, in brand new condition. I have not used escrow, at this point, I've lost 154.00 on one sale out of 80.
Usually when Im bidding on an item..I will ignore the offers for a similar item for a lesser price. I usually dont buy outside ebay on line.I use Paypal 99% of the time. If the seller does not accept paypal..I usually avoid that auction. I dont buy from 0 feed back seller Or sellers with excessive negative feedback. Sticking with these guidelines..my ebay experience has been great and I have save a lot of money on several items.