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Troy
03-06-2004, 08:43 AM
Got a Hold'em question for CC the Dealer man ---
The basic rules say the best five cards play the hand.
OK. Example -- "A" holds A,K. "B" holds A,x.
Flop is A,A,K,K,x.
Since both have Aces full, is the hand a split or does the sixth card break the tie ???

Thanks,
Troy...~~~ Just curious... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

pooljunkie73
03-06-2004, 09:26 AM
The sixth card breaks the tie, player "A" would win.

Kent Mc.

dg-in-centralpa
03-06-2004, 09:36 AM
Not unless "B" has 5 Aces.

DG - nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more

Ralph S.
03-06-2004, 05:14 PM
Wrong answer. The correct answer is a split pot. Both players use the five cards on the board plust two cards in hand totaling seven cards. You make the best hand possible of the seven cards. If both players make a full house of aces over kings, it is a split pot.

pooljunkie73
03-06-2004, 06:41 PM
I thought it would come down to who had the higher kicker. My bad /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Kent Mc.

JPB
03-06-2004, 08:38 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote pooljunkie73:</font><hr> I thought it would come down to who had the higher kicker. My bad /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Kent Mc. <hr /></blockquote>

Lots of people make the mistake. Easy way to remember is that poker hands consist of five cards and five cards only. Whatever game you are playing the hands are 5 card hands - games for high, low, or split pot games. It can get a little more confusing in community card games, especially Omaha, where you MUST use two cards from your hand as part of the five card hand. But your best hand is still 5 cards. But in holdem one card plays or you can play the board. Sometimes the nuts are on the board and all remaining players split the pot in HE.

Chris Cass
03-07-2004, 08:25 AM
Huh,

If someone has 5 A's then it's automatically the dealers fault. The dealer therefore gets taken out and shot. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~answers the toughest questions when sleeping. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
03-07-2004, 08:37 AM
Hi Troy,

I'd like to say I knew everything about Texas Holdem but my expertise is in craps and blackjack. I have also dealt roulette and every gimmick game, bj can come up with, 3 card poker. Once trained in poker but, that's about it. Someone said something about Omaha. That game sucks totally and would only recommend it to someone I don't like. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif LMAO

You question is rather easy though and Ralph said it best. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now Troy, if we ever go to the casino togather I can steer you into the best odds or moves for your money. That's as far as casino games go. I used to know 11 games but it's up to about 14 now I think. That's proceedures, which is impressive but I will tell ya the only game one can make a living at is, poker.

Regards,

C.C.~~taught Tony Z. from MN on the proper bets in craps and the guy wins \$1000. that was a fun day at Red Wing. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Troy
03-07-2004, 08:52 AM
Thanks Chris.
I'm a BJ junky, Reno style -- single deck, cards face down, etc. We go to the Peppermill in Reno and get Room &amp; Food comp'd... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif I can usually be found at the \$25 table.
I hate the face up deal with multi-decks as in Vegas and the Indian casinos... /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Try as I may, I just can't remember all the crap associated with craps -- too much for my old brain.

Troy

Chris Cass
03-07-2004, 03:21 PM
Hi Troy,

That single deck bj has some very good advantages for the smart player. I remember learning to deal it. The instructor made us hold the deck the entire time we were there. Even when we went on break. LOL There's a trick to cutting out a stack of 20 checks(chips for the unknowing /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif) and with the deck in your hand.

The deck is cut in the middle when the dealer suspects counting. Otherwise it's cut around the last 1/3. Also, learned how to check my hole card while holding the deck. Casinos like the electronic testers because some dealers might give a tell unknowing by facial expressions. When I didn't care for someone I would make a smile when I had crap. LOL Not all the time only when the bet was hi and they've been rude and of course not tipping. Mean, I know but that's life. LOL It's a different story when they've lost and trying to get even. That's totally understandable.

The advantage as you know is looking for that ten to come out. You could win 3 out of the 4 hands possible with a full table. It almost lets you know when to play table min. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif I was very good at the game and could deal lightning fast if the players were sharp and if they were drinking too much and watched my hands they would literally get sick. LOL

I usually had regulars though and they liked me. I always made money from tips. Players like it when they know the dealer is a gambler too. They know when someone wants them to win and is on their side. I hate a dealer that doesn't gamble. They seem to care less and have no compassion for the players. Sure, you have to take your lumps but to lose and have some shmuck smile and tell ya, have a nice day is worthless.

As a dealer, it sucks when 25% of the dealers are getting 75% of the tokes(tips).

Regards,

C.C.

dg-in-centralpa
03-07-2004, 06:56 PM
CC - just a dig at a former thread about a guy who had 5 aces playing single deck hold'em.

DG - loves blackjack

Chris Cass
03-08-2004, 06:24 AM
Again, I missed a funny. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif I can see we're 2 of the same. I also joke about other threads to see if anyone catches it. LOL Sometimes they do and sometimes they miss the boat like myself. I need to read a little more of the posts. LOL

Regards,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

UWPoolGod
03-08-2004, 10:33 AM
Yeah its a split pot.. I saw something on the World Poker Tour like that. A guy was way ahead with a set of Aces. and had the other guy beat...but a card came on the river that gave both of them the same straight so they split the pot instead of the Aces taking it down.

Dagwood
03-09-2004, 02:36 PM
As far as the hold'em hand...I was always under the impression that it was the pair kicking the full that determined who won the hand if, as in this case, both players are holding 3 bullets. So, if "x" isn't a king, then player "A" would win. If "x" is a king, then the pot would be split then. That's what I thought. But that shows you how much I know about poker.

Never have played single hand BJ, only the multi-deck versions played in the casino's around Vegas and on the Indian Res's. Speaking of which...went to Foxwoods while I was back home last Wednesday night. Played the \$5 craps table, didn't play anything but the pass line all night, 5 dollars on the line, 10 on the odds, and walked away with 275 after about 3 hours. I couldn't believe it. I only made a few other bets that hit, (two hard 8's, and opening roll bet on the YO...both on a \$5 bet so they paid off nicely). Dad was there with me, and he was staying off the pass line all night and trying to play the 8, 6 and 10 and walked away even money. Was down most of the night, got back to even right at the end.

Funny thing, that game. Had one guy on his come out rolls, from the first, roll 7 7's in a row. Finally rolled a point, (9 I think), and promptly rolled 7 out. Go figure. He kind of scared us all off with those 7's he rolled. Everyone pulled all their bets off the table after the 4th one aside from pass line bets. That opening YO winner didn't hit but twice the whole time I was playing...hit it for \$5 the first time it hit, and that was two hours after we had been playing without seeing it. It was due. Love that game....

Dags

Troy
03-09-2004, 04:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Dagwood:</font><hr> As far as the hold'em hand...I was always under the impression that it was the pair kicking the full that determined who won the hand if, as in this case, both players are holding 3 bullets. So, if "x" isn't a king, then player "A" would win. If "x" is a king, then the pot would be split then.
Dags <hr /></blockquote>
Since both have 3 A's &amp; 2 K's, they SPLIT. The fact that one has the K in hand doesn't matter.
Bottom line, only five (5) cards max are used !!!

Troy

Chris Cass
03-09-2004, 07:51 PM
Tap, Tap, Tap.