View Full Version : Would this bother you????
04-28-2002, 11:51 AM
Being a big proponant of good sportsmanship and respect at the table. I wonder if playing your match with headphones on would be considered poor sportsmanship? I ask because I have this great new gizmo, a mini disc player that is very easy to attach and play as I practice. My instinct tells me though it would be disrespectful to use it durring a match. I also might risk distracting myself, or missing something. I just find music very relaxing...
I was just curious what others thought of this. I think I have only seen a few people ever do this...I think it's better kept for practice, again just curious as to what everyone else thought??
Also I can not tell you how much I love this thing, It's just a little bigger than a credit card and you can record 5-6 albums on one disk! It is AMAZING!!! It's so easy too, believe if my blonde brain can figure it out, anyones can.../ccboard/images/icons/wink.gif
04-28-2002, 12:07 PM
There was one road player who wore a full size headphones during a big tourney here last year. No one protested.
04-28-2002, 12:22 PM
I think it's a great idea. One side benefit is once your friends or opponents get used to your wearing the thing they will start talking about you thinking you can't hear them then you can secretly turn the volume off and find out what they really think of you. /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif
04-28-2002, 12:27 PM
My question is the brand and model number of your player. I don't think it would bother anyone, unless you have to respond to them and because of the music you can't hear them. JMHO
Even Earl Strickland has been seen playing while wearing a head set lately. It's probably easier for him to concentrate listening to Metallica...so he doesn't have to listen to himself. Okay that was a cheap shot--but I keep envisioning Earl listening to his little head set music and his opponent steps to the table with a huge boom box at full volume with rap blaring--I wonder if Earl would complain? LOL!! Personally, I like for my opponent to be exposed to all of the same distractions or "elements" that I have to deal with. I would be distracted by an opponent that is plugged in while playing me as it would take away some of the human element out of the game. Plus I'd be wondering just what in the heck are they listening to??? Regards, Rip~~needing therapy now!
04-28-2002, 01:41 PM
It is called a Sony Portable MiniDisc Player/Recorder and you can either record off your PC (which I don't have, I am a Mac girl) or you can buy an attachment to record form your stero or cd player...which is what I do. They run about 150.00 and up. You can also get a radio, which i did not want. I am just amazed at the ease of carrying this thing.
Being a NY'er and taking the subway everyday, I am all about being un-encumbered! The discs are very cheap also, a pack of 8 runs about 20.00 bucks and you can record over 300 mintutes on 1!!!
I still don't know about using it durring an actual match but for practice I love shutting the world out!
04-28-2002, 01:47 PM
Ever hear the Dixie Chicks song, Goodbye Earl? I always think of Mr. Strickland!!
But thanks for your response, that is my concern, sharking my opponent. I have to ask myself how I'd feel, and I might think the same...
I also think it's important to being aware for yourself of all that is going on at the table...
04-28-2002, 04:32 PM
I have seen you practice with your headphones on and they are small and unobtrusive. So, as long as the volume is low enough so that your opponent does not hear what you are listening to, I do not forsee any problems. However, as to avoid an unexpected and/or unpleasant situation, you might want to check with the TD before your matches begin.
Cuechick, a friend of mine wears headphones when we play. I don't tell him to take them off because we're friends and we're just playing for table time. But it's annoying that I have to repeat myself at least twice every time I have to say something to him. He says the volume is low and I believe him. I know he can hear me but not clearly.
I also agree with Rip in that the playing field should start at level for both players. When I match up with someone, I always let them know I plan on using my jump cue. If they have a problem with that we have to renegotiate the match.
If it's OK with your TD or LO, go ahead and use them but as an opponent, I'd be all over that TD or LO protesting.
Quote cuechick, Also I can not tell you how much I love this thing, It's just a little bigger than a credit card and you can record 5-6 albums on one disk! It is AMAZING!!!
CC, you would make a good rep for the company. But you did forget the, "BUT WAIT if you order now during this special offer we'll throw in etc etc!"
Really I don't care if someone wears one, I'd think it to be to my advantage. I couldn't wear one because I'd miss the sound of the game.
04-28-2002, 08:52 PM
When playing a friendly game.. its no problem.. but in a tournament or league.. I think it is questionable.
I think it would be great for practicing..
04-28-2002, 09:16 PM
From a TD's point of view, I'd have to say, "Not allowed during play." Why? Because it could be misconstrued as a walkie-talkie-type set-up for coaching.
And I MUST confiscate that contraption next time I see you!! /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif
Okay, in Vegas, please show me this toy.
04-28-2002, 10:12 PM
I was actually informed that it is not allowed in Vegas durring the tournament, though I had already decided to use it only for practice, and I am talking about when I practice alone, I also like hearing the sound of the balls dropping as was pointed out...
And I do turn into a bit of a cheerleader when I find something I love. It takes a lot to impress me!
04-28-2002, 10:27 PM
I don't have a problem with what ever my opponent listens to. If it's headphones, go for it. I do however ask that they keep it low when I'm at the table. Chances are the music's so loud where I'm playing it won't matter.
They also have some cool spy ears for those times when you try to get a game going. That's the time to hear what the back is saying. LOL
It would bother me to play with/against someone that was wearing headphones. I definitely would not play in any tournament that permitted players to wear headphones. I'm not saying Earl had a person or persons scattered around giving him infomation or feedback during play. But I've seen and read of this sort of thing in many other places. Private card games and in casinos etc. And when I use to shoot pool the social interaction between the players and even those watching, was part of the enjoyment and sometimes part of the challenge of the game.
Barbara- I agree that it might be construed as a possible coaching set-up, but can also be considered distracting to the other players- much like cell phones.- could also create a problem in communication between the players if there is a question as to intent on shots, etc. I don't think a match is the appropriate time to use on of these devices. Patti
It wouldn't bother me a bit if my opponent wore this but if I were you I would only use it when practicing. A number of people that you could play may use this to create techs i.e. frozen ball etc. Fred
04-29-2002, 01:20 AM
When I play poker, I find that there is a fair number of people who play with their headphones on. In a non physical game of cards, it is easier to become distracted by music, whereas in pool it should become more background.
I personally just find it slighly impolite in an actual match as it makes communication tougher between yourself and your opponent which could cause me a fair amount of distress if Im trying to tell him my shot as I am setting it up.
Cuechick, for me, it's like the Supreme Court's definition of porn:
"I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it."
I've been trying to put into words for two days now why I would be upset if my opponent wore headphones during our match. I can't do it. But... something about it still rubs me the wrong way.
04-29-2002, 03:11 AM
It wouldnt bother me at all- as a matter of fact,they have earplugs that are so small,you can even see them-as for the pro tour-i dont think so-and if i would wear it, I'd listen to Frank sinatras 'My Way!" ha ah ha-good luck!
uncool! In tournament play especially uncool. I've seen Tommy Kennedy do this on the Camel tour as well and I find it amazing that he got away with it. The respect for opponent and game issue is one thing but the more important is that the player is changing the playing conditions. When you play a sport, no electronic devices should be allowed. Earplugs are okay, headphones are not okay.
04-29-2002, 11:39 AM
What if you were trying to alert your opponent that you wanted to call someone over to call the hit... or worse... what if you were trying to alert them that they were shooting at the wrong ball...
I dont want to have to wave my hands infront of someone's face or yell to get their attention..
But cuechick... you have my personal permission to wear them when we play... Only you have to listen to Motley Crue
04-29-2002, 12:17 PM
what else would I listen to? duh...
04-30-2002, 06:32 AM
Playing by yourself is no problem. If you are wearing them when playing with a friend then that is just rude and a good way to lose a friend. During a tournament they should not be allowed, especially if you are moving with the music. Just another sharking tactic. Jake
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