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Nostroke
05-03-2004, 11:01 AM
I hate you guys. I know it's part of your "pre shot routine" but cant you just pretend to rechalk. It is so dumb.

I played one guy who chalked 4 times on some shots. Marching for the chalk,picking it up, rechalking, put the chalk down, getting down on the shot, reconsidering, marching for the chalk, picking it up, on and on. Give your opponent a break huh?

Frank_Glenn
05-03-2004, 11:24 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> I hate you guys. I know it's part of your "pre shot routine" but cant you just pretend to rechalk. It is so dumb.

I played one guy who chalked 4 times on some shots. Marching for the chalk,picking it up, rechalking, put the chalk down, getting down on the shot, reconsidering, marching for the chalk, picking it up, on and on. Give your opponent a break huh? <hr /></blockquote>

LOL, no. It's a switch, like turning the lights on or off. You are swapping from a "thinking" mode to a "shooting" mode. Never think when down on a shot. If you find yourself thinking, get up and go for the chalk. If you are thinking when down on the shot your subconsious is telling you it doesn't like something (for me usually my feet are in the wrong spot, but it could be something else). Try it, it works.

catscradle
05-03-2004, 11:34 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Frank_Glenn:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> I hate you guys. I know it's part of your "pre shot routine" but cant you just pretend to rechalk. It is so dumb.

I played one guy who chalked 4 times on some shots. Marching for the chalk,picking it up, rechalking, put the chalk down, getting down on the shot, reconsidering, marching for the chalk, picking it up, on and on. Give your opponent a break huh? <hr /></blockquote>

LOL, no. It's a switch, like turning the lights on or off. You are swapping from a "thinking" mode to a "shooting" mode. Never think when down on a shot. If you find yourself thinking, get up and go for the chalk. If you are thinking when down on the shot your subconsious is telling you it doesn't like something (for me usually my feet are in the wrong spot, but it could be something else). Try it, it works. <hr /></blockquote>

Great advice Frank!

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 11:36 AM
When you've chalked, you've chalked. There is no excuse for rechalking. It's easier to think without chalking. If you need something comforting to hold on to while you think, maybe you should bring a blankie to the table.

daviddjmp
05-03-2004, 11:47 AM
I could see re-applying chalk after reconsidering a shot and deciding to shoot over a ball,with the bridge, or a masse, all of which are more prone to a miscue. I wear a chalk holder so I always have my chalk with me and don't have to walk around the table to get it.

Chris Cass
05-03-2004, 11:52 AM
Hi David,

I don't think the problem is really the re-chaulking. It sounds a little more deep than that. Just an observation.

Regards,

C.C.~~Dr. Phil' co-anchor

daviddjmp
05-03-2004, 12:04 PM
Chris-

I tend to interpret things too literally sometimes!

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
Im not really outraged, im just a little bored today and wanted to stir things up a bit. But i really would like to know why some of you cant reconsider a shot without rechalking and then i want you to stop it.

highsea
05-03-2004, 12:42 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> But i really would like to know why some of you cant reconsider a shot without rechalking and then i want you to stop it. <hr /></blockquote>

Like Frank said, it's a switch.

I bring my own chalk, so who cares how fast I use it up. Usually I get only one or two sessions out of a chalk before I leave it on the table when I go home.

If I have to rethink a shot, I automatically pick up the chalk, it helps me concentrate on the shot. When I think I have my mind made up, I step into position and set my bridge hand down, and, still upright, I look at the shot until I can clearly "see" the lines the OB and CB are going to take.

Only then do I drop down into my shooting position, make my final small adjustments to my bridge position and back hand, take 3 practice strokes, backstroke, pause, and pull the trigger. If I am really in the zone, I omit the practice strokes.

If I lose "sight" of the shot when I drop down into shooting position, I have to start over, and that starts with the chalk....

-CM

woody_968
05-03-2004, 12:54 PM
I think Frank is right on target here, the chalk is a "trigger" for the pre-shot routine. Some type of physical action telling your brain your ready to take the shot. Its a very important step that many people dont think of incorporating into their game.

You will see the same thing with golfers, they will snug up their glove or adjust their hat and then step into the shot. If you see them pull off the shot they will adjust their glove again (or what ever the trigger is) before they step back into the shot.

Leviathan
05-03-2004, 12:57 PM
Oh, screw preshot routine; I rechalk to annoy opponents who lack self-control! Hehehe--AS

Candyman
05-03-2004, 01:00 PM
I just re-chalk to get on my opponents nerves. Looks like it works.LOL /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nightstalker
05-03-2004, 01:08 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Candyman:</font><hr> I just re-chalk to get on my opponents nerves. Looks like it works.LOL /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>
Sharking tactics, gotta love 'em! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 01:11 PM
I hear you but i still don't really get it. I don't see how picking up chalk can help you concentrate on a shot.

AT some level your brain has to be thinking-"I'm going to get the chalk, I'm chalking-It's not squeaking loud enough, I'm putting the chalk down" This cannot help IMHO when you are trying to concentrate on the shot.

As for the switch thing just remove the chalk from the switch process- Start the switch at the next step. Thank you all in advance for your expected cooperation.

SPetty
05-03-2004, 01:21 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> I hate you guys. I know it's part of your "pre shot routine" but cant you just pretend to rechalk. It is so dumb.<hr /></blockquote>You're funny.

You should really make sure that your opponent knows how much it bothers you, because I'm sure if they knew, they'd take better care to not do it so much. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Popcorn
05-03-2004, 01:27 PM
You would be better off worrying about what you are doing then your opponents habits. They tend to convert themselves from complaints to excuses. That is all you need to lose is a good excuse.

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 01:55 PM
So your suggesting that I change??

I thought everyone understood the point of this is to get people who are doing DUMB things to change, not me for crying out loud.

Nightstalker
05-03-2004, 02:06 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> So your suggesting that I change??

I thought everyone understood the point of this is to get people who are doing DUMB things to change, not me for crying out loud. <hr /></blockquote>
You see, that is your opinion. When first thinking of criticizing others we must first take a look in the mirror to see if there is anything that needs changing with ourselves first. More often than not a simple attitude change in ourselves is all that is necessary. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

highsea
05-03-2004, 03:20 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> AT some level your brain has to be thinking-"I'm going to get the chalk, I'm chalking-It's not squeaking loud enough, I'm putting the chalk down" This cannot help IMHO when you are trying to concentrate on the shot.

As for the switch thing just remove the chalk from the switch process- Start the switch at the next step. Thank you all in advance for your expected cooperation. <hr /></blockquote>

How to explain...I'm not sure I can. When I am chalking I am not thinking about the chalk, I am thinking about the shot. Chalking is a simple task that requires no thought. It frees my mind to concentrate on the shot. Kind of a pacifier, if you will. I don't set the chalk down until I have decided how I will shoot the shot.

I have conditioned myself to use the chalk as the first part of my pre-shot. If I leave it out of my preshot, I will forget to use the chalk, and slide from shot to shot until I miscue or miss and turn the table over to my opponent.

I'm not saying I chalk up every time I get up from my shooting position, if all I need to do is reposition my feet, I don't need to use the chalk. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif But everytime I need to rethink the shot, I reach for the chalk. It's my subconsious reminder that I am starting over.

-CM

whojoedaddy
05-03-2004, 03:30 PM
The brain works (at least the subconscious) because of association. The more things you have associated the more likely you are going to remember something. If you have a shot you've seen before and you've associated your pre-shot routine, especially your whole pre-shot routine your going to be more likely to remember where to hit it etc. You can have six-seven separate things in your mind at once (I'm guessing in the pre-conscience) the more you have the more likely your going to remember whatever it is your doing. If you keep everything the same your more likely to do things and keep doing things correctly.

Popcorn
05-03-2004, 03:47 PM
You represent the dumb police now? Quite a responsibility.

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 04:12 PM
Very interesting and the prior post too. It does seem to be a bit at odds with the Zen view of things but logical in its own right. My routine starts after the chalk i guess. In fact i dont even chalk on every shot.

A good player told me very early in my pool life that memory was one of the most important aspects of shotmaking. I knew if he was right, i was not in for a scintillating career.

Bob_Jewett
05-03-2004, 04:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> I hate you guys. I know it's part of your "pre shot routine" but cant you just pretend to rechalk. It is so dumb.<hr /></blockquote>
I think you're right. The pre-shot trigger should be looking at the tip to see if it is ready. Most players do not chalk well enough in a single pass to coat the tip completely. It can actually make the tip worse to go through the chalking motion again depending on the chalk and the skill of the chalker. And most players don't look at their tip to see if it is ready.

stickman
05-03-2004, 04:27 PM
I've been known to walk to my cue case to get my scuffer and rechalk after an amazing tuff shot. It gives me time to settle my nerves, before the next shot. I don't do it to intentionally break their rythym SP? There are those that will do these things to try to upset you though. Could you be a likely candidate? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nostroke
05-03-2004, 04:49 PM
Nothing wrong with that Stickman, It is pretty much expected after a tough shot that there will be some type pause for nerve settling

Although i am a terrifically likely candidate, the one player i have in mind is in no way trying to shark me. Furthermore i know that i should be able to tolerate all these things but of course i can't. Slow play, someone standing behind me waiting to shoot, bad music, loudmouths and a dozen more things shark me easily. I think maybe i should switch to Internet Checkers.

I dont play in leagues or tournaments so if someone is deliberately trying to shark me, i just don't play them again.

Hey Bob- Thanks-quite brave at this point!

PS- My answer on that Euro to the dollar question is correct now!! Truly a visionary i am!!

Popcorn
05-03-2004, 05:30 PM
I highly suggest, you never go on the road. It takes a lot to be a good player, beyond just a little knack for the game. Your comments say far more about your game then those you attempt to insult. You use words such as hate, with all due respect, you are the one with issues.

tateuts
05-03-2004, 05:33 PM
Let me get this straight. Would this bother you?

I have a full table shot, where the cueball is two inches from the headrail and the object ball is two diamonds from the far corner pocket. I have to jack up and draw the cueball back to the headrail.

So I chalk up, and hear the a screech from chalk number 1. Owww, no good. I tippy tap my tip, pull out chalk number two, and give it a few swipes - but it's still scraping - not at all the right pitch. I go over to the counter and grab a couple of new cubes. I use the patented Tip-Pik this time, the one that looks like a bed of nails. I give it a good pin cushioning, and use chalk number 3. Screech-scratch, screetch-scratch, screetch-scratch. This chalk is too hard. I look at the tip and it's quarter shaped instead of nickle - so that's the problem! I file it a little and pull out chalk #4. Just right.

It took some time, but I go ahead and play my thin cut safety after all.

Chris

Tom_In_Cincy
05-03-2004, 05:55 PM
What I find interesting about the 're-chalk' scenerio you have described, is when it comes after the player has been down on the ball, stroked 22 times, and then gets up.

I onced asked a player that did this (as he was re-chalking)"do you think all those practice strokes made the chalk come off your tip?"

I had a bad rep in my younger days.....

Frank_Glenn
05-03-2004, 05:56 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> I hear you but i still don't really get it. I don't see how picking up chalk can help you concentrate on a shot.

AT some level your brain has to be thinking-"I'm going to get the chalk, I'm chalking-It's not squeaking loud enough, I'm putting the chalk down" This cannot help IMHO when you are trying to concentrate on the shot.

As for the switch thing just remove the chalk from the switch process- Start the switch at the next step. Thank you all in advance for your expected cooperation. <hr /></blockquote>

If you are squeeking the chalk, you are doing it all wrong. Looks like we need to play some. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Chris Cass
05-03-2004, 11:46 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr>
Although i am a terrifically likely candidate, the one player i have in mind is in no way trying to shark me. Furthermore i know that i should be able to tolerate all these things but of course i can't. Slow play, someone standing behind me waiting to shoot, bad music, loudmouths and a dozen more things shark me easily. I think maybe i should switch to Internet Checkers.

I dont play in leagues or tournaments so if someone is deliberately trying to shark me, i just don't play them again.
<hr /></blockquote>

Well, it only took 24 posts to finally get to the head of the problem. Let's talk about this. Your letting way to much "interference" in your mind, my friend.

I used to have the same problem too, long ago. It took sometime before I finally realized that these people that do the things they do. Most of the time aren't directed at you but rather they're like "tells." A casino term. They give you insight to what they're all about.

The thing you have to think about is you. You should be putting 100% of your focus into what your doing and not, what someones doing or something that's going on around you. Sure, standing behind ones shot is too much. That, I would agree with.

When someone is chaulking for the second time you, should feel pumped in a way. They're having second thoughts about what they need to do. That's a good thing. Look for these signs of trouble and let them work for you.

Loud bad music is not good but anytime I'm ever in dead punch, I don't remember hearing anything. I'm thinking your having a problem in your concentration techniques. I know this isn't something you don't know yourself because I know you can play. I also know you've been around the block too. I also know when someone refuses to admit to themselves, that they have a problem in this area. You just did.

I mean no disrespect my friend. I think it'd be wise to seek the help of an instructor. Unless, you feel you know what to do on your own to get this out of your game. To free you up to enjoy playing and want and have the desire to beat the living dog poop out of everyone. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

My best,

C.C.~~good luck Nostroke

Nostroke
05-04-2004, 12:27 AM
Frank- I don't squeak when i chalk. I added the squeaking thing for a little humor.(I don't hate anyone either by the way) That doesn't mean I'll play you though.

Nostroke
05-04-2004, 01:13 AM
Thaks for your concern Chris, but I think you are making a bit too much of this. Hell i sharked Earl one time when he was in the chair for a commercial break because i brought out my tic-tacs and shook a couple into my hand. Got the glare of a lifetime. I've got him beat by a mile and he is a world champion.

You yourself are bothered by someone standing behind you even though you know they aren't directing anything at you and you know you shouldn't be. I just have a few more shark factors than you. Some things are hard to cure.
Did you ever meet a sloppy guy who suddenly became a neatnick? Ever see a cheap bastard start to spend like crazy? Ever see a guy who is always running late start to be early for everything?

Fortunately i can pick the times and places i play for optimum enjoyment and that's what i do.

Chris Cass
05-04-2004, 05:38 AM
Good to go my friend.

Regards,

C.C.

catscradle
05-04-2004, 06:06 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> ... you should bring a blankie to the table. <hr /></blockquote>

If I thought it would help my game, I would.

catscradle
05-04-2004, 06:23 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> AT some level your brain has to be thinking-"I'm going to get the chalk, I'm chalking-It's not squeaking loud enough, I'm putting the chalk down" This cannot help IMHO when you are trying to concentrate on the shot.
<hr /></blockquote>

The point is they're not thinking about the chalking, it is an unconcious trigger. Just like the bell ringing was an unconcious trigger for Pavlov's dogs to salivate. It is all part of a stimulus-response chain, ultimately leading to the behaviour of shooting the ball. I suppose it could all be thought of as superstitious behaviour; re-chalking persay has nothing to do with the success of the shot, but the consistency of the stimulus-response chain does. Your stimulus-response chain does not include chalking, but I'm willing to bet that an independent observer would be able to find certain consistent behaviours you engage in that directly contribute nothing whatsoever to the success of your shot. They may be very subtle, but they'll be there.

#### leonard
05-04-2004, 06:36 AM
As I posted last year about watching Mike Zuglans nineball tourney at Turning Stone Casino. In 6 hours they only completed two tiers of play. Charlie Williams chalked his cue 27 times and played one safety.

I always wondered if that was the reason that the Casino gave up holding the tournament. It was putting the spectators to sleep but not in the Casinos rooms.

I know it cured me of watching nineball tournaments. ####

catscradle
05-04-2004, 06:58 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote whojoedaddy:</font><hr> The brain works (at least the subconscious) because of association. The more things you have associated the more likely you are going to remember something. If you have a shot you've seen before and you've associated your pre-shot routine, especially your whole pre-shot routine your going to be more likely to remember where to hit it etc. You can have six-seven separate things in your mind at once (I'm guessing in the pre-conscience) the more you have the more likely your going to remember whatever it is your doing. If you keep everything the same your more likely to do things and keep doing things correctly. <hr /></blockquote>

Nobody knows "how the brain works", some of the physiological mechanisms of it have been explained, but beyond that it is speculation. Whether "remembering" occurs "subconciously" or doesn't is unimportant. What is important is observable behaviour. The observable behaviour seen over and over in sports and non-sport related behaviours is that an establishment of a routine increases the likelihood of a consistent outcome of that series of behaviours. Whether that outcome is "success" or "failure" is a somewhat arbitrary designation.
May the departed soul (if one exists) of B.F. Skinner bring a pox upon you and yours. ;-)

Rich R.
05-04-2004, 07:56 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote #### leonard:</font><hr> I know it cured me of watching nineball tournaments. #### <hr /></blockquote>
A worse experience would be watching Charlie play against Johnny Archer. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I've been there and done that. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

####, trust me when I say, not all 9-ball players are like Charlie and Johnny. Some play quite fast and are a lot more pleasurable to watch.
Whenever Charlie and/or Johnny are playing, it is always a good time to go for lunch or a nap. Chances are, you will return and you will have only missed a shot or two. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

catscradle
05-04-2004, 08:26 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote #### leonard:</font><hr> I know it cured me of watching nineball tournaments. #### <hr /></blockquote>
A worse experience would be watching Charlie play against Johnny Archer. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I've been there and done that. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

####, trust me when I say, not all 9-ball players are like Charlie and Johnny. Some play quite fast and are a lot more pleasurable to watch.
Whenever Charlie and/or Johnny are playing, it is always a good time to go for lunch or a nap. Chances are, you will return and you will have only missed a shot or two. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif
<hr /></blockquote>

Have you considered a Williams/Souquet matchup, that may be the slowest possible.
On the other hand there is Luc Salvas, what a pleasure to watch.

JClark
05-04-2004, 08:31 AM
Frank had a good reply, but the real issue is not what your opponent is doing but what are you doing. You need a trigger to help you be in the game without focussing on what he is doing. The real important thing is what are you doing not what is he doing. There is a major difference between watching the game and concentrating on the game. If you are consentrating on the game continually you will tire yourself to early. The time to consentrate is when it is your turn. Forget him you are not playing him you are playing the table.
Jeffrey Clark SPF Family

Rich R.
05-04-2004, 09:25 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote catscradle:</font><hr>Have you considered a Williams/Souquet matchup, that may be the slowest possible. <hr /></blockquote>
Sorry, but I have to disagree on this match up. Although Ralf is slow, while deciding what to do, once his mind is made up, he plays at an acceptable speed. That is, unless he gets out of line. Then he has to think things through again.
Ralf also does not get down and up, 5 times, for a two foot, straight in, shot, like the other two players. He also does not clean invisible lint, from the table. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

catscradle
05-04-2004, 09:55 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote catscradle:</font><hr>Have you considered a Williams/Souquet matchup, that may be the slowest possible. <hr /></blockquote>
Sorry, but I have to disagree on this match up. Although Ralf is slow, while deciding what to do, once his mind is made up, he plays at an acceptable speed. That is, unless he gets out of line. Then he has to think things through again.
Ralf also does not get down and up, 5 times, for a two foot, straight in, shot, like the other two players. He also does not clean invisible lint, from the table. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I'll agree Ralf proceeds quickly in the actual execution of his shot, but he it seems he can spend an exorbitant about of time analyzing things when even a 'C' player like myself sees the shot immediately. This seems especially evident when there really isn't a "good" shot, he seems to just not be willing to accept that he is stuck with what he is stuck with. However, I will admit that in the end he makes great shot selection and executes almost flawlessly.

Bob_Jewett
05-04-2004, 11:36 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr>... chalk number 1. ... chalk number two... chalk number 3<hr /></blockquote>
At this point, I like my chances because my opponent has clearly overlooked one of the first important lessons: get good chalk and control it. Do not let others use your chalk. Sometimes I use the chalk the PH provides, but it's out of laziness.

Nostroke
05-04-2004, 12:17 PM
In Florida recently, a certain extra religious individual who was handling his own chalk, was said to have put "powder" in all the table chalk. His opponent miscued a number of times. I have no idea of the validity of the accusation.

Rod
05-04-2004, 01:43 PM
I do that sometimes, really it is more of a nervous habit not intentional. Never meant to shark someone. Well I am the guy at the table so it shouldn't matter to my opponent. I get through a rack quicker than most so it's not a delay of game. I do understand where your coming from however, when it is repeated over and over on many shots. They don't know what their doing anyway! /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif It still does not bother me though.

An old time player once told me "You study long, you study wrong" it holds so true in many cases. The important thing for you to remember is not rush when it's your turn. I've seen a fair amount of that also.

Rod

dmgwalsh
05-04-2004, 02:43 PM
I just noticed that last sunday with a friend of mine playing straight. He was taking so f###ing long to shoot, my mind started wandering, and I started thinking that he is the reason I'm going through so much chalk, and probably why there's a lot of chalk on the table when he leaves. When he missed a shot after chalking up several times, I told him that he probably didn't have enough chalk o the tip.

tateuts
05-04-2004, 08:57 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Bob_Jewett:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr>... chalk number 1. ... chalk number two... chalk number 3<hr /></blockquote>
At this point, I like my chances because my opponent has clearly overlooked one of the first important lessons: get good chalk and control it. Do not let others use your chalk. <hr /></blockquote>

Bob,

In all honesty, I would rather miscue or quit playing altogether than to be so anal as to not allow others to use my chalk.

Chris

Nightstalker
05-04-2004, 09:02 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Bob_Jewett:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr>... chalk number 1. ... chalk number two... chalk number 3<hr /></blockquote>
At this point, I like my chances because my opponent has clearly overlooked one of the first important lessons: get good chalk and control it. Do not let others use your chalk. <hr /></blockquote>

Bob,

In all honesty, I would rather miscue or quit playing altogether than to be so anal as to not allow others to use my chalk.

Chris

<hr /></blockquote>
He might be a control freak, it's all good. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Alfie
05-04-2004, 09:45 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Bob_Jewett:</font><hr> get good chalk and control it. Do not let others use your chalk. <hr /></blockquote>Bob,
In all honesty, I would rather miscue or quit playing altogether than to be so anal as to not allow others to use my chalk. <hr /></blockquote>Obviously you are not _that_ concerned about the chalk cube's condition. If you were and yet didn't want to appear selfish, you could carry a cube to share and a cube to keep.

-- everybody happy

Chris Cass
05-04-2004, 10:11 PM
Hi Chris,

Looks like we agree. I always carry a piece in my case to tourneys with me. I'll wip it out if there isn't chaulk provided or if the chaulk provided is too worn. I will and have announce that, " I brought the chaulk and don't mind sharing as long as I get it back."

That's only if I need to play on another table without chaulk also. Then I'll take it when my games over. Many times I'll just leave it, if I don't need to shoot and theirs descent chaulk there at the new table. I also let anyone use my jump cue and leather bridge attatchment. I don't announce that though. You'd have to ask. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I don't think Bob was really trying to be a tightwod. I see a lot of people that carry their own and hord(sp?) it too themselves. I say fine, but I find most will share if you ask.

Regards,

C.C.~~doesn't sweat the small stuff too.

Wally_in_Cincy
05-05-2004, 06:31 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr> Bob,

In all honesty, I would rather miscue or quit playing altogether than to be so anal as to not allow others to use my chalk.

Chris

<hr /></blockquote>

/ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Mr. Jewett wrote an article in BD a while back describing his preference for the shape of his chalk.

He's a "swiper" not a "borer". I'm like that too. I hate worn chalk with a deep hole in it.

Frank_Glenn
05-05-2004, 06:35 AM
[ QUOTE ]


In all honesty, I would rather miscue or quit playing altogether than to be so anal as to not allow others to use my chalk.

Chris

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I do not like a big hole bored in my chalk. I know some players that will bore a big hole in a cube of chalk in an hour's worth of play. A cube lasts me months, many months. YMMV

Chris Cass
05-05-2004, 06:38 AM
Hi Wally,

Just got through reading an interesting article written by Mr. Jewett in a pool newspaper named Professional Cue or something like that. He has some good things to say. Mostly billiards in the article. This guy knows his stuff. Very impressive.

Regards,

C.C.~~learned how to spell "chalk" the proper way. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

#### leonard
05-05-2004, 07:02 AM
The secret to keeping the chaulk the proper depth is a little grinding wheel, just wear a dust mask. A sharp knfe will also do.####

Chris Cass
05-05-2004, 07:07 AM
Hi ####,

I use a coin and it's the same dimentions as my tip.

Regards,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Keith Talent
05-05-2004, 03:06 PM
Am I the only guy, then, who might chalk up, get down on a shot, have doubts, stand up, maybe even get down one more time ... then reconsider the shot ... and after all this, maybe taking 45 secs ... I actually can't remember if I chalked in the first place, so I've got to do it again.??? /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif