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Barbara
05-20-2004, 12:42 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/

My question is, when did Mexico get an Air Force?

Barbara

UWPoolGod
05-20-2004, 12:49 PM
I think its just all their crop dusting turbo-props. The "UFO's" turned out to be Ball Lightning I think. Still would freak the hell out of me if I was flying and saw something as rare as that.

highsea
05-20-2004, 01:21 PM
More likely a US stealth squadron on manouvers, maybe JSF's. The AF has infrared and radar reflective panels that they can hang on these planes when flying in non-hostile airspaces to help pilots see each other in formation and to aid in mid-air refueling.

This is much more likely than a "ball lightning formation"

-CM

highsea
05-20-2004, 10:22 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> My question is, when did Mexico get an Air Force? <hr /></blockquote>
Brief History:
The Mexican Air Force was born in 1915, during the Mexican revolutionary period. Before that, aerial reconnaissance and dropping bombs on ships had been undertaken by the different revolutionary factions.

The first naval air combat on the American continent occurred in 1914 in Mexico. The Air Service, later to be known as the Mexican Air Force, participated in many campaigns throughout the 1920's and 1930's, supporting the army in putting down many rebel factions and armed bandits.

During World War II the air force undertook anti-submarine patrols and fielded a fighter Squadron that was trained in the United States. The 201st Mexican fighter squadron of the Mexican Expeditionary Air Force fought in the liberation of the Philippines in 1945. In the post-war period the air force went through a number of changes, being re-equipped with the majority of the lend-lease aircraft it had received during the war years.

In recent years the Air Force has under-gone a major reorganisation to meet its needs in the war against the drug cartels and to support the government and population in humanitarian roles, not only in Mexico but other countries as well.

In recent years has seen an increase in former Soviet-bloc aircraft and helicopters being procured - there is even talk of acquiring combat and COIN aircraft like the MiG-29, L-39Z and the Sukhoi Su-25.

Some current inventory:

Northrup F5/E
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/mexico/pics/f-5e_4006.jpg
Lockheed T-33
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/mexico/pics/t-33a_%20je-042.jpg
UH-60 Black Hawk
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/mexico/pics/uh-60.jpg
Northrup F-5/F
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/americas/mexico/pics/f-5f_4502.jpg

-CM

Qtec
05-20-2004, 10:40 PM
If it was non hostile enviroment,why didnt they identify themselves?
Your explanation doesnt add up.You obviously havnt seen the video.

Q

highsea
05-20-2004, 11:38 PM
You're right, I haven't seen the video. Post a link to it and I will check it out.

The US flew F-117's for several years before publicly acknowledging their existence. There were lot's of UFO reports, that were nothing but USAF out practicing.

If this was a "black" squadron, they wouldn't make radio contact. No flight plan, etc. It's how they operate. Surely you don't think we have no secrets?

But, hey, you could be right. Maybe it's little green men. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-CM

update: Okay, I have seen 3 clips from this. The clearest video showed 2 groups of 3 objects flying in formation traveling from left to right. (from the Mexican pilot's viewpoint)

The video was infrared, so no outlines were visible, and the distance was too far anyway. The objects appeared to be traveling at a pretty good clip, and maintained their formation.

The story stated that they were at 11,500 feet. The mexicans were flying jets, but couldn't catch up to the objects. The "UFO's" then turned around and surrounded the Mexicans at a distance of about 2 miles, and flew with them for a short while before bugging out.

Sounds like US fighter jocks having a little fun to me...

Here is a Newsmax (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/13/91044.shtml)story on the topic.

-CM

Barbara
05-21-2004, 08:31 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote highsea:</font><hr> Sounds like US fighter jocks having a little fun to me...

Here is a Newsmax (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/13/91044.shtml)story on the topic.

-CM <hr /></blockquote>

Sounds right to me!

Barbara

Qtec
05-21-2004, 09:25 AM
Newsmax is NOT a credible source of information.

I dont know what they saw but I would doubt it was the US Airforce.

Q

armandito
05-25-2004, 10:12 AM
Hey guys,
If it was the USAF, what were they doing in Mexico, flying over Mexican territory? Campeche is pretty far south, and too far inland for the USAF to fly LEGALLY over.