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preacherman
07-10-2004, 09:31 PM
I have an almost new 9 foot table - but it's not a name brand, though an expensive table. The rails are tight as could be but they are just plain old dead! With a hard hit I can go straight up and down the table only 3 1/2 rails; sometimes 4 if I really, really hit it hard and straight, compared to an Olhausen or Brunswick where I can normally hit it straight and go 5 1/2-6 rails minimum.

My question is: I want to get new faster rails on the table. I want to use what is compatible to most good tables.

What rail would you recommend?
Why?
Where can I get a good price on them?
What should be the price for someone to cover them with simonis and install them for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim "preacherman"
www.christianpoolplayers.com (http://www.christianpoolplayers.com)

DialUp
07-10-2004, 09:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote preacherman:</font><hr> I have an almost new 9 foot table - but it's not a name brand, though an expensive table. The rails are tight as could be but they are just plain old dead! With a hard hit I can go straight up and down the table only 3 1/2 rails; sometimes 4 if I really, really hit it hard and straight, compared to an Olhausen or Brunswick where I can normally hit it straight and go 5 1/2-6 rails minimum.

My question is: I want to get new faster rails on the table. I want to use what is compatible to most good tables.

What rail would you recommend?
Why?
Where can I get a good price on them?
What should be the price for someone to cover them with simonis and install them for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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BCA specs says you should be able to send the ball at least 4 to 4.5 rails without the ball jumping. It sounds like you need some fresh rubber.


I would recommend an inexpensive set from www.mueller-sporting-goods.com. (http://www.mueller-sporting-goods.com.)

Frank_Glenn
07-10-2004, 10:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]

My question is: I want to get new faster rails on the table. I want to use what is compatible to most good tables.

What rail would you recommend?
Why?
Where can I get a good price on them?
What should be the price for someone to cover them with simonis and install them for me.
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Could be the rubber, could be the cloth is too tight. The cloth should loosen up some after a while, how long ago was the table covered?

preacherman
07-11-2004, 06:46 AM
Yes, I do believe I need fresh rubber rails.
I didn't see what I wanted in Mueller.

Thanks,
Jim "preacherman"

www.christianpoolplayers.com (http://www.christianpoolplayers.com)

preacherman
07-11-2004, 06:49 AM
Cloth was put on 6 months ago, but I really don't believe it's the cloth. The rails are obviously slow.

Thanks,
Jim "preacher"
www.christianpoolplayers.com (http://www.christianpoolplayers.com)

Frank_Glenn
07-11-2004, 07:35 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote preacherman:</font><hr> Yes, I do believe I need fresh rubber rails.
I didn't see what I wanted in Mueller.
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Really? Did you look here http://www.poolndarts.com/product.cfm/sku/36-228.cfm

Item 36-228 - Artemis Pool No. 66 9' Rubber $169.95

ceebee
07-11-2004, 07:58 AM
Here's the straight poop. Championship Billiards makes an absolutely GREAT set of cushions. They are made in a new way. They have a dual-density cushion &amp; the rubber seems to be great. They are very nice. I just installed a set on my Pool Table &amp; they are very nice.

Now for the downside. The Artemis cushion may very well be the best, but you don't play on Artemis cushions &amp; you don't play on Championship cushions either (they are less than 2 years old). If you compete on a Gold Crown, it's best to practice on the same kind of table. If you compete on a Bar Box, you should practice on a Bar Box.

I have re-covered &amp; re-cushioned two very nice 9 foot Pool Tables. I purchased the 1st set of cushions from Mueller's. I purchased the 2nd set from Championship Billiards. I really like the Dual-Density Cushion from Championship Billiards. I feel they will in time become an ICON in Pool Table Cushions.

http://www.champbilliards.com/product_details_cushions.asp?prod_id=17

SPetty
07-11-2004, 09:57 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Frank_Glenn:</font><hr> Could be the rubber, could be the cloth is too tight. <hr /></blockquote>Hi Frank_Glenn,

Are you saying tight cloth is slower than looser cloth? That sounds backwards - I always thought tighter cloth would be faster. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Frank_Glenn
07-11-2004, 10:24 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Frank_Glenn:</font><hr> Could be the rubber, could be the cloth is too tight. <hr /></blockquote>Hi Frank_Glenn,

Are you saying tight cloth is slower than looser cloth? That sounds backwards - I always thought tighter cloth would be faster. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Cloth on the rail should not be too tight. It compresses the rubber and takes some of the bounce out of it. Cloth on the bed should be as tight as it can be.

preacherman
07-11-2004, 04:44 PM
Thanks Frank for the exact info on Rubber rails from Mueller. I will take that into consideration.

Jim "preacherman"
www.christianpoolplayers.com (http://www.christianpoolplayers.com) /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

preacherman
07-11-2004, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the information on this site for rubber rails.

I am trying to make a decision on which product to go with AND how many products for rubber rails I have to choose from.

I do want a good rubber rail that does play similiar to the Gold Crown table. So I really want the best rail that is comparable to what I would play on at a professional pool establishments. I'm trying to get an equal match at home as to when I play outside.

Also if I have someone install them what should be the charge for that?

Thanks,
Jim "preacherman"
www.christianpoolplayers.com (http://www.christianpoolplayers.com)

wolfdancer
07-11-2004, 06:39 PM
Jim, i'm having a table built by a guy that's been doing it for 56 years. Pat Sheehan also writes a monthly column in "TheBreak" newsletter....when I talked to him, he seemed to know a lot about the rubber cushions...where they are made..the chemical composition, etc...and why there are a lot of "bad" cushions on the market...why some fail after only a short time.
Unfortunately Pat is not online..and I can't pull up the website www.onthebreaknews.com/ (http://www.onthebreaknews.com/) ....but I'll call Pat tomorrow for you...or you can call (Portland,Or)
503-232-7665
503-313-8646 (cell)
Most of the rubber cushions are now made in China...and there was a problem in the manufacture...wrong mixture of sulphur....lots of cushions were sold before this was discovered
...anyway, it would be worth a phone call to Pat, before you buy a set