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9 Ball Girl
07-15-2004, 02:33 PM
Ok boys and girls, here's some more detailed info on our 3rd Annual CCB Tourney:

When: Saturday, September 11, 2004

Time: Warmup 10 AM followed by a Players meeting (how official). Play starts 10:45ish AM.

Where: Q-Master Billiards (http://www.q-masters.com/) (website under construction)

Format: Texas Express Rules, Alternating Racks (see more below)

Double elimination, Race to 5 (women get a game on the wire). One loss side, Race to 4 and again women get a game on the wire. When women play against each other, "NO SPOT"

The distribution of the prizes will be, tentatively, like this:

1st Place 1st place trophy, Allison Fisher series Cuetech cue w/1x1 Guiseppe case, 1 Bag 'O Nuts
2nd Place 2nd place trophy, The Stroke Trainer (rather symbolic, eh?), 1 Bag 'O Nuts
3rd Place The Billiards Workbook, 1 Bag 'O Nuts
4th Place Permanent Activation Key for the Pool Tournament Manager Software
5th Place 2 Hour Videotaped Lesson w/Scott Lee
6th Place 1 Year, Unrestricted, Activation Key for the New Pool Tournament Director Software

Every participant in the tourney will each receive 1 Ceramic The Billiards Workbook Mug. There are 36 in a case so those will go on a first come first served basis.

The remaining prizes will be raffled off for those who do not place 1-6 (I figure this way everybody wins, yes?). They are the 2x4 Leather Cowboy style case, 2x2 Pro Series case, Four 1 year Inside Pool Subscriptions, and 4 Inside Pool Tee Shirts.

The above may change should we get more donations for prizes in which case, as we did last year, we'll have fun "boobie prizes" for things like "The Player with the Most Sloppy Losses" (snapping the 9 in on the break or combos of the 9 for the win), "Player with the Most Ball in Hand Misses", etc.

There is no entry fee, but donations to the house for table time and tip for the waitress(es) will be appreciated. (Wonder if Heather will be waitressing again).

The Players
1. Barbara
2. 9 Ball Girl
3. RichR
4. Tom_in_Cincy
5. Eric.
6. Frank_Glenn
7. mr8ballme
8. SPetty
9. Wally_in_Cincy
10.Brian_in_VA
11.JMD in VA
12.pooldaddy9
13.JayCee
14.Kato
15.Phil in SoFla
16.JackPot George
17.cueball1950
18.ras314
19.Ken
20.Voodoo Daddy
21.PoolPlayer1988
22.Ross
23.Sack316
24.Gayle in MD
25.Bluewolf
26.Whitewolf
27.RedHell
28.Chris Cass
29.PQQLK9
30.
31.
32.

Donations for prizes are always welcomed, no matter how big or small. PM me or Tom_in_Cincy if you'd like to donate.

I believe that Cathy (Mrs. RichR) will be the Master of the Brackets?

Wendy<---1 month and a little over 3 weeks to go...

Kato
07-15-2004, 09:36 PM
Does this mean I can't drink massive amounts of alcohol because I won't be able to lean on a partner and.......gasp........have to try /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kato~~~can't believe my luck

Chris Cass
07-15-2004, 11:01 PM
Yes, that what it means Kato. Spike won't be going and your hung out to dry. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~Voodoo going? He won't be carrying a water bottle will he? /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Rich R.
07-16-2004, 04:13 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>Double elimination, Race to 5 (women get a game on the wire). One loss side, Race to 4 and again women get a game on the wire. <hr /></blockquote>
This is great!
Now, when Barbara and SPetty beat my butt, 5-0, I can just say it was because I had to give them weight. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rich R.
07-16-2004, 04:16 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> I believe that Cathy (Mrs. RichR) will be the Master of the Brackets? <hr /></blockquote>
I think she would prefer it, it her title were changed to "Mistress" of the Brackets. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Voodoo Daddy
07-16-2004, 04:45 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Yes, that what it means Kato. Spike won't be going and your hung out to dry. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~Voodoo going? He won't be carrying a water bottle will he? /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif <hr /></blockquote>

If I do show up I wont have the water bottle but a 48 gallon Super Soaker "CC" model!!! Dont look good as of now, I wish it did but I have too much going on right now to even plan it!!

Voodoo~~~had a dream last night &lt;I never dream&gt; that I was jacked up with the 3-fingered Porno Pump in dead stroke drawin' my rock!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 08:05 AM
Well Voodoo,

I'm not counting on it but I guarantee it would make my day. I know what you've been going through and I'm behind you 100% but, you knew that already.

Regards,

C.C.~~my love to Mom and Dad, my hugs to S, K and Gizmo /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 08:09 AM
Kato, you can drink to your heart's content. That is, after all, the US Open way. Just keep the a$$ pinching to a minimal this time, ok? /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Scenario:

September 20, 2003
Q-Master Billiards
post Hurricane Isabel

Generator fails and the lights go out so now we're thrown into darkness:

Tom_in_Cincy: Wendy! Stop grabbing my a$$!
Wendy: That's not me it's Kato! (crowd laughs)
Kato: (takes another swig of his beer)

Wendy~~~let the good times roll baby!

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 08:11 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>Spike won't be going<hr /></blockquote>Awwwww man! Who am I suppose to get my morning hugs from???

Wendy~~~got her Spike fix at Valley Forge /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 08:12 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> The remaining prizes will be raffled off for those who do not place 1-6 (I figure this way everybody wins, yes?). They are the 2x4 Leather Cowboy style case, 2x2 Pro Series case, Four 1 year Inside Pool Subscriptions, and 4 Inside Pool Tee Shirts.<hr /></blockquote>So does this seem ok and fair to everyone?

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 08:15 AM
Hey Wendy,

He grabbed me first. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

C.C.~~your list will need to be updated later for sure. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 08:29 AM
Hi Wendy,

I don't think you'll have a problem. However, Spike does have school starting and his first week in a new school. He and Heide both wish they could go also. That just can't happen with her job and all.

They both plan on the Midwest Expo. Can't wait to go myself. I think it'll be great with all the evnts going on and the venders are tops too. Hopefully, the venders can come down a bit like at VF. Now, that's where they were more than reasonable. I just can't wait to get back there next yr.

Heide' game has gone up two balls recently. A guy mentioned to me lastnight matter of fact. He tells me about another local woman that did well in Vegas. He said, just imagine if Heide went. He said she could give the local woman the 7 ball. LOL I feel happy for her but as usual, everyone sees it before the shooter.

Regards,

C.C.~~I'll take one hug. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
07-16-2004, 09:04 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> The remaining prizes will be raffled off for those who do not place 1-6 (I figure this way everybody wins, yes?). They are the 2x4 Leather Cowboy style case, 2x2 Pro Series case, Four 1 year Inside Pool Subscriptions, and 4 Inside Pool Tee Shirts.<hr /></blockquote>So does this seem ok and fair to everyone? <hr /></blockquote>

Is it a raffle or will they be drawn at random?

Personally I think all the prizes, except for the trophies, should be drawn at random due my pending 2-and-out status.

Tom_In_Cincy
07-16-2004, 09:06 AM
Wally,
2 and out is only allowed in regular tournaments. CCBIII is not considered a regular tournament.

Strange things happen in Sept.

Did you ever get your grass cut?

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 09:10 AM
I'm going to miss them both! I'll have to take extra pictures then. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Well, you tell Heide and Spike that I wish them both well and that they will be missed. So, what's with the sad face and the change in my list?

Wally_in_Cincy
07-16-2004, 09:12 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> Wally,
2 and out is only allowed in regular tournaments. CCBIII is not considered a regular tournament.

Strange things happen in Sept.

Did you ever get your grass cut? <hr /></blockquote>

dude, my grass doesn't grow. It hasn't rained at my house in a month /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 09:18 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> Personally I think all the prizes, except for the trophies, should be drawn at random due my pending 2-and-out status. <hr /></blockquote>That sounds like hustler talk to me! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif Like Tom said, strange things can happen...

Anyway, last year we had a random drawing of all prizes and it was fun but I kind of felt bad for those that got nothing while some got more than one prize (I fall in the more than one prize group). I thought that maybe everyone can win something, have it as a CCB/US Open '04 keepsake, be happy, hold hands, and possibly skip along and pick flowers. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tom_In_Cincy
07-16-2004, 09:18 AM
It hasn't rained in Sacramento since March. The humidity hasn't got above 25% since MARCH.

Dry heat is HOT.

Grass? not unless you have a HIGH water bill.

POOL related... low humidity does keep the table FAST.

Wally_in_Cincy
07-16-2004, 09:20 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>...Anyway, last year we had a random drawing of all prizes and it was fun but I kind of felt bad for those that got nothing while some got more than one prize ...<hr /></blockquote>

that's easy to fix, just give each person one ticket.

RedHell
07-16-2004, 09:27 AM
Wendy, there's a easy fix to your problem...

First, you give the prizes as "Presence Prize", therefore you have to be there to collect.

Second, instead of a raffle, you simply give everyone a ticket or put the names of the attendees in a hat. Having only on ticket will prevent winning twice. It will also serve another purpose, it helps people sticking around till the end, tho in our case, I doubt anyone will need convincing elements /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

All in all, I feel the tournement is there because we want to have fun. Not because we want to play well and get first prize. I feel kinda like Wally, trophies and bragging rights for 1st and 2nd. Prizes at random for the rest of the group.

I think we should also have a lemon trophy for the goofiest shot of the tournement !!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 09:39 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr>that's easy to fix, just give each person one ticket. <hr /></blockquote>Actually we all just had one ticket. We just kept putting them all back into the "pot" to redraw for the next prize. For example, we had 4 TipTappers, persons A, B, C, and D won them. Now it was time to draw for the subscriptions, if memory serves me right, because this was a different prize, to try to play fair to everyone, all names would go back in again so that everyone had a chance to win resulting in some people with multiple wins.

SPetty
07-16-2004, 11:17 AM
I can't find the words "scotch doubles" or "team play". Are we doing that switch-the-partners team thing again? This description looks like one-on-one... I'd prefer the team thing...

I tend to agree about the prizes - random and all that. If they're all handed out at the end, the winner could take choice, then second takes choice, then third, etc.

It isn't right, as you say, that one person gets nothing while others get multiple. I didn't realize that happened last year.

Do we still have a leftover Pool School entry that didn't get claimed last year?

Barbara
07-16-2004, 11:40 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr>It isn't right, as you say, that one person gets nothing while others get multiple. I didn't realize that happened last year.
<hr /></blockquote>

Well here's a solution to that. Everyone in the tourny gets a ticket. You draw one ticket out of the bucket, call out the number and that person gets a prize. Then you leave that ticket out and call another ticket. This way, everyone gets a shot of winning something before doubling up on prizes.

If we have more prizes than tickets, after the last ticket is drawn, throw everyone's ticket back in and start over.

Barbara

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 12:15 PM
This is one-on-one. The team thing was more fun than it was competitive and each match was just 2 games. This time, like 2 years ago, we're doing it more tourney-ish. But hey, trust me, it will still be fun. Woof to your own discretion. Especially to Kato. He loves being woofed at. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It wasn't like it was right or not right because there were definitely no hard feelings during the prize give away (otherwise Kato would be a dead man! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif ), it's just that I think this way the chances are better for everyone to walk away with a goodie.

The Pool School entry was from Randy G. and I thought someone won it last year?

SPetty
07-16-2004, 12:40 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> This is one-on-one. The team thing was more fun than it was competitive and each match was just 2 games.<hr /></blockquote>Well, now, why wasn't this even put up for discussion from the players? Or is this something you guys decided last year? (I knew I should have paid extra for the refundable plane tickets... /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif )
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>The Pool School entry was from Randy G. and I thought someone won it last year?<hr /></blockquote>Nope, you guys forgot about it and it went unclaimed...
old CCB post about it (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccboard/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=ccb&amp;Number=101756&amp;page=&amp;vi ew=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;vc=1)

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 12:41 PM
In addition to The Billiards Workbook, the 36 Billiards Workbook ceramic mugs, Dr. D will also be donating 36 Billiards Workbook baseball caps. One will be given out with each ceramic mug for those who are participating in the Tourney. First come, first served.

Thanks Diana! /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Barbara
07-16-2004, 12:53 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> This is one-on-one. The team thing was more fun than it was competitive and each match was just 2 games.<hr /></blockquote>Well, now, why wasn't this even put up for discussion from the players? Or is this something you guys decided last year? (I knew I should have paid extra for the refundable plane tickets... /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif )<hr /></blockquote>

Why can't we do the Teams this year instead of individual? I don't want competition, I want fun. What's the problem with doing a Team event?

Barbara

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 01:05 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> Well, now, why wasn't this even put up for discussion from the players? Or is this something you guys decided last year? (I knew I should have paid extra for the refundable plane tickets... /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif )<hr /></blockquote>This was actually something that most of us talked about last year. Like I said, it was fun and all, but we're poolplayers and we want to really play, ya know?

And don't you dare refund those tickets Missy! I'm looking forward to meeting you!

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr>Nope, you guys forgot about it and it went unclaimed... <hr /></blockquote>You're right! I just went through last year's posts and sure enough, we overlooked it and never came to a conclusion on a drawing. Why it wasn't resolved last year is beyond me. Maybe we can do it for this year for everyone or for only those that were present last year if RandyG still wants to donate it? I haven't seen him posting in a while but I sent him a PM.

Eric.
07-16-2004, 01:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> Why can't we do the Teams this year instead of individual? I don't want competition, I want fun. What's the problem with doing a Team event?

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>

I jsut want to preface this by saying that I don't care which format everyone chooses, I'll salute whateva is on the flag pole...

If everyone wants teams, I think we can do a similar format to last year. I know it was a monumental task(thanks, Dave!) keeping up with the records, but we might be able to do something:

Give every player a piece of paper with 8 lines(for each round). After each round, list your partner/how many wins/against who.

Re-draw new partners each round.

Most points win.

or

have a chip touney. Each player starts with 8 chips. Each player from the losing team gives a chip to each of the players of winning team. Count your chips at the end.


Eric

Wally_in_Cincy
07-16-2004, 01:33 PM
or scotch-doubles blind draw

Tom_In_Cincy
07-16-2004, 01:39 PM
The tournament will have surprizes in its current format.

Everyone will continue to play pool with as many different players as possible.

You do like surprizes don't you?

For those that need to have details I will be glad to provide them at the Dinner Friday nite.

Wendy and I are trying our best to make this EVENT a FUN one. I hope everyone's sprit will be in high expectations of having a great time. We are all on VACATION and expect to have FUN at the very least.

Currently there are prizes for all, free pool at a great pool hall and some casual competition. Meeting old friends and making new ones. What more could you ask?

Tom_In_Cincy
07-16-2004, 01:42 PM
How about a tournament with NO CHALK or scuffing your tip?? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Just Kidding

Rod
07-16-2004, 01:42 PM
Or scotch based on ability, the lows draw for the highs.

Rod

Tom_In_Cincy
07-16-2004, 01:44 PM
Did you notice that Rod's elephant is always walking to the RIGHT?

Scotch (Single Malt) double... I like it... Blind after a few anyway.

RedHell
07-16-2004, 01:44 PM
To all who might be interested, I'm pretty much in the same state of mind as Eric.

I'm going there for fun and will be playing whatever is propsed to me...

BTW, keep on the good work Wendy and Tom !!!

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 01:50 PM
Trust me guys, we WILL HAVE FUN! The first time around back in '02, we were more concentrative (is that a word?) because we really didn't know each other like we do now. So trust me, it will be fun...

Thank you Tom. You said it better than why I could've! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Ain't that right, Red? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Wendy&lt;~~~one of the best woofers out there!

RedHell
07-16-2004, 01:57 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>


Ain't that right, Red? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Wendy&lt;~~~one of the best woofers out there! <hr /></blockquote>

Oh you'd be surprised !!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

ras314
07-16-2004, 03:06 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> How about a tournament with NO CHALK or scuffing your tip?? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif <hr /></blockquote>
I like that one! Hmmmm, since the ladies are spotted a game on the wire howsabout they have to wear heels? You know, like those JL wears. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Doctor_D
07-16-2004, 03:21 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote ras314:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> How about a tournament with NO CHALK or scuffing your tip?? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif <hr /></blockquote>
I like that one! Hmmmm, since the ladies are spotted a game on the wire howsabout they have to wear heels? You know, like those JL wears. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif <hr /></blockquote>


Good evening:

I am always wearing 2 1/2" heels when competing. Being only 5'7", the additional 2 1/2"s proves very helpful...


Dr. D.

/ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

wolfdancer
07-16-2004, 03:30 PM
Hey, Dr. D., I been using yer book now fer a few weeks and it's really helping. I've added 1/2' to my arms, and 2' to my chest, from haulin' this behemoth around...lol
I'm amazed that you found and took the time, to compile all this info....hope that sales are doing well!!!

9 Ball Girl
07-16-2004, 03:31 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote ras314:</font><hr> Hmmmm, since the ladies are spotted a game on the wire howsabout they have to wear heels? You know, like those JL wears. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif <hr /></blockquote>I wore 3.5 inch wedges last year for the whole day. Didn't bother me none.

ras314
07-16-2004, 03:43 PM
Actually I'm a bit old fashioned, just think women look better in heels. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Doctor_D
07-16-2004, 04:19 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote ras314:</font><hr> Actually I'm a bit old fashioned, just think women look better in heels. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>


Call me Olde Fashioned as well, because I believe we look better in heels also !!!!


Dr. D.

/ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Doctor_D
07-16-2004, 04:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> Hey, Dr. D., I been using yer book now fer a few weeks and it's really helping. I've added 1/2' to my arms, and 2' to my chest, from haulin' this behemoth around...lol
I'm amazed that you found and took the time, to compile all this info....hope that sales are doing well!!! <hr /></blockquote>


Good evening:

I am delighted to hear that you are enjoying, as well as benefiting from, the Billiards Workbook. However, so as not to force you to lug around a 12 lb workbook, we did produce the publication in a 3 ring binder so that you could remove the pages or section you wanted to work on and then replace them when you were finished. Damn, even I do not want to carry the workbook around for any length of time.

/ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Dr. D.

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 07:20 PM
Well Wendy,

I thought I read a few people that have things going on that they have to deal with that might not be able to make it. I do hope they can, no doubt and I'm hoping everyone shows. Just had to bring it up.

Why don't you pm Heide sometime. She thinks everyone forgot her. She's working out of town this week and drives back and forth 12 hr days. I hate her job for that reason.

Regards,

C.C.

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 07:27 PM
I gave one of mine away and took the accustats tape. After watching it I sent it to pooldaddy9 for him to keep. He shoots good btw. I wanted others to have something too but we all can't get lucky. I think it should be tradable too if someone would like to. It was great anyway and others were happy for eachother. We do have a special group here. They all are very sharing and no resentment. Except for that Kato. He's one luck box if I ever saw one. hahahaha

Regards,

C.C.~~it was really a great time despite the weather and the lights we had FUN....

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 07:35 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>

The Pool School entry was from Randy G. and I thought someone won it last year? <hr /></blockquote>

It was fun and the format doesn't matter. The pool school thing was what I really wanted and don't remember who won that? Anyway, it's not about winning at all there. It's about the feeling that was present in everyone, love.

Wally and Susan, I bet you walk away a winner and I also bet you'll love it there too. 2 and out is all part of the game and I'll give Susan a free jump lesson right off the bat. For Wally, I'll give him nothing but woofing on every shot. He'll be laughing so hard he'll drop his cue. LOL

Regards,

C.C.~~I'm Scott Frost' woofing mentor... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rich R.
07-16-2004, 07:47 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> Why can't we do the Teams this year instead of individual? I don't want competition, I want fun. What's the problem with doing a Team event? <hr /></blockquote>
Barbara and SPetty, the format we used last year was outstanding. Unfortunately, it required a lap top computer, a printer and Dave's (Mr.Ingrate) computer program. Without all of this, it would be very time consuming and difficult to run. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'm sure Dave would let us use his program, but, unless someone is willing to provide a laptop and a printer, we are stuck with some other format.
If I had a lap top and a printer, it would be there, but, unfortunately I don't.

Although I would favor some type of format, which would maximize how many other people we get to meet and play against, I will be there whatever the format.
The format doesn't matter. I come in last, no matter what. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Barbara, you will have to trust me, "competition" is not real high on the list of priorities.

Don't back out. With this group, I guarantee you will meet some real nice people and have some fun. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BTW, I agree with some others. I think the winners should only get trophies. All prizes should be given away by drawing names or numbers.

Chris Cass
07-16-2004, 07:47 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> This is one-on-one. The team thing was more fun than it was competitive and each match was just 2 games.<hr /></blockquote>Well, now, why wasn't this even put up for discussion from the players? Or is this something you guys decided last year? (I knew I should have paid extra for the refundable plane tickets... /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif )
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>The Pool School entry was from Randy G. and I thought someone won it last year?<hr /></blockquote>Nope, you guys forgot about it and it went unclaimed...
old CCB post about it (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccboard/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=ccb&amp;Number=101756&amp;page=&amp;vi ew=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;vc=1) <hr /></blockquote>

Susan,

This was so much fun. Nobody was petty(no pun) about anything. It was fair and it's not about winning at all. Heck, there was even cheating going on. Please don't let this ruin your trip. You'll have a blast, I promise. No discussion was even neccessary. Everyone was happy for everyone. I won a fantacy 9 ball thing and gave mine to Mike M. I could have won a pool table but I wanted Mike to get something and I knew he liked it. The atmosphere was one of family and togatherness and although I think I hate losing more than anyone it wasn't about that in the least. Heck, Mike M and Wes K wanted to just walk in the resturant and pick up the $800. tab for dinner like the previous yr. That's what it's all about. Please don't let this stop you from having the time of your life. No embarrassment due to unlucky rolls or even shots missed. Does a few games say something about how well you can play? Nope, anyone can win. Heck, I'll give the ladies 3 games on the wire. Even Barbara. LOL

Believe me, you'll love it no matter what.

Regards,

C.C.

9 Ball Girl
07-17-2004, 07:51 AM
Ok kiddies, we're now going to be including the following prizes to our drawing/prizes/raffle--I don't care how it goes but it will go!

3 Days of Randy G's Pool School for 2004

1 DVD Player courtesy of Mike (cueball1950)

9 Ball Girl
07-17-2004, 08:05 AM
Do you guys remember the old Twilight Zone episode named "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street"? It's the one where strange things start to happen on that street (controlled by Aliens) and all the humans start to show their bad sides i.e. distrust, hatred, etc. The purpose was for the Aliens to see how humans interact with each other when there's conflict etc.

I'm not saying anyone here is a monster (although at times I could be /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) but I did say that the prize list was a tentative one as far as distribution goes. I got my reactions and I'll adjust things around. It's not til September after all and we've got prizes coming in so I have to adjust around anyway.

As far as the format of play, that's going to stay that way. Like most have said on here, it's fun fun FUN. We play with each other throughout the week anyway and believe me, this is not a hands down, no talking, you have to sit in your seat while the other shoots kind of tourney. And oh yeah, cell phones will ring. The only qualifier in this is that if you play in it, you're in for next year's tourney.

Wendy&lt;---makeshift scientist? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
07-17-2004, 08:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr>

...As far as the format of play, that's going to stay that way....

Like most have said on here, it's fun fun FUN....<hr /></blockquote>

Sounds good to me. Don't matter either way.

I'll be there, good Lord willing and the storm surge don't rise /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Chris Cass
07-17-2004, 10:47 AM
Hi Wally,

I'm sure we can find a bar box somewhere in Va. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~knows about going up in tables from last time. it's not easy but noone cared much anyway. too busy laughing at Kato.

Mr Ingrate
07-17-2004, 12:16 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr>Barbara and SPetty, the format we used last year was outstanding. Unfortunately, it required a lap top computer, a printer and Dave's (Mr.Ingrate) computer program. Without all of this, it would be very time consuming and difficult to run. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'm sure Dave would let us use his program, but, unless someone is willing to provide a laptop and a printer, we are stuck with some other format.
If I had a lap top and a printer, it would be there, but, unfortunately I don't.
<hr /></blockquote>

Rich,

In a previous message, I indicated that I had released the completely FREE Fun Tournament Director that makes it even simpler and easier than the one we used last year at CCB-II. I've used it for some fund raisers and it is a very popular format.

It does require a laptop and printer. The software can be downloaded from my web site (http://www.davespooltools.com). It will always be free and there is no activation required.

I'm sorry I can't be there this year, but I will be at the MidWest Expo in October and the BCA National 9-Ball Championships in November. Maybe I'll see some of you there.

Ross
07-17-2004, 02:35 PM
First, let me say I thank you Wendy for all your work over on this and previous CCB tourneys. Second that I will support whatever format ultimately happens.

That being said, I don't understand how a few CCB'er can decide to change the format and others have no input. Did I miss a discussion somewhere?

I was at both CCB I and CCB II. The double-elimination format the first year was not nearly as fun as the scotch doubles format last year. For one, the scotch doubles makes the tournament less competitive and more social. I know you say we are all poolplayers so we like competition - but I get to do that year around. But I go to the CCB tourney for social reasons. And one-on-one leads to less social interaction. Being more competitive, both players are focused more on their games than socializing. Second, one player is shooting while the other person is in the chair, so unless you are going to dawdle between shots or talk while the other guy is shooting, there is little chance to schmooze during a match.

Second, the usual double-elimination format (like CCBI) leads to a LOT of sitting on your butt waiting around. Players that win their first couple of matches sit for long periods waiting for the losers side to play through. Players that are two and out sit forever waiting for the end of the tournament. Now I saw your comments to the effect that this won't happen (sitting around). Please explain.

I also have a MAJOR problem with your comment to the effect "As far as the format of play, that's going to stay that way."??? Has there been a coup that I didn't hear about? Why do you and apparently a few others get to decide what the format of the CCB tourney is going to be? Isn't this something that should be decided on by including all of us who go to these tourneys in the discussion? Shouldn't there be a vote from the participants if people disagree about agreed formats? I think there should be. I don't see why some CCB posters/tourney participants should be "more equal" than others.

Anyway, that is my opinion FWIW. I will support whatever the group decides, but I will be perturbed if it is not a group decision.

Ross ~ apparently an out-of-the-loop CCB tourney participant/ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

SPetty
07-17-2004, 04:52 PM
So, I've been thinking (and sorry this is so long, but I think I need most of these words to try to fully explain) and maybe I'm just having a bad couple of days, but....

I watched you guys plan out last year and I could see that you all were having a lot of fun discussing things and getting things settled until everyone all had consensus on what was going on and how you were going to do things.

I personally thought the resulting tourney format that the group came up with was inspirationally genius! Swapping scotch doubles partners each match so that you were playing with or against someone you hadn't played with or against - it offered the best opportunity to get to know just about everyone, right? And it was definitely a fun format, not a serious format.

And, the consensus that the prizes shouldn't go to a "winner", but should be randomly distributed to all participants (although that part could be improved a little, as discussed elsewhere...). That was, again, a stroke of genius.

For a measley "C" player like myself, I'd feel perfectly welcome in that environment. I suspect everyone felt welcome and felt like they were participating in the planning and in the event.

Part of the reason for that swapping scotch doubles format, I think, is that "we" learned that a "real" tournament format might not be such a great idea when that ringer (killerbreak? He's not even a registered user...) showed up to take off the tourney.

Anyway, now apparently without input from the CCB players, the format has been changed to a "normal" one-on-one double elimination with winners receiving prizes and losers receiving nothing.

That's a much different format than it was last year. I signed up believing that you had reached virtual perfection with the tourney concept last year, having no idea that you'd have the power or desire to just change it, especially without input from the CCBers. I now don't feel like a participant in this event, but rather simply an attendee.

As a lowly "C" player, I don't have to imagine too hard that it's not going to be particularly fun to go "two-and-out" against the good players that I know we have playing in this tourney. And, it doesn't seem nearly as fun or right that the good players will be winning the good prizes by virtue of defeating players like me.<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr>You do like surprises don't you?<hr /></blockquote>Now you have a "surprise" that you expect we should like. In my life lately, things that could be called "surprises" have not been particularly good. So to answer your question, no, I don't really like surprises.

The fun anticipation of this event that I may have had has now been significantly lessened, and that, my friend, is where the real shame of it lies for me. I've now got little to look forward to for the next two months except going "two-and-out" in a tourney where I don't know anybody. Well, I can try to look forward to a "surprise", but unless it's naked CCB men dancing on the tables, it probably won't make up for a couple of months of dreading a two-and-out tourney.

I hope this is clear enough, and sorry it took so many words. I guess the point I'm making is two-fold: 1) a recommendation to get input and consensus from the CCB people rather than making the surprise decisions for us, and 2) a suggestion that we go back to the format y'all used last year.

And, thanks for all you've done for this tourney to make it fun for everyone. Of course, I'll attend and be happy and let you all buy me tequila... (that would be a fun surprise, eh? /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) If all it takes for the scotch doubles swapping format to come back is a printer, hell, someone drive me to the store and I'll buy one for us to use!

Please be kind when setting me straight if this is wrong thinking. I've been feeling a little like the bug lately (you know, some days you're the bug, other days you're the windshield...). Actually, I'm probably feeling more like the fire hydrant (you know, some days you're the dog...)

Rod
07-17-2004, 06:06 PM
SPetty,

I think your post and Ross's post was very well thought out. And no your just not having a bad week. I think it should be somewhat of a concern to all that participate.

It's my understanding it's a way for all of you to meet and have fun. Playing heads up IMO is not the best way. I also thought last years format was excellent.

Having said that, from a guy that is doubtful to show, it isn't intended to be other than a forum member comment. Why don't you all "discuss" this, then run a poll? Or start a new thread/poll instead of having it all mixed in with this one? It's confusing at best inside this thread.

It could be something like,

Are you in favor of the current format?

Would you prefer last years format?

Would you prefer a scotch chips format? etc.

First contribute with an explanation of the format, then vote. It appears a laptop and printer might be an issue so start a thread on that first if necessary. What ever is started by all means contribute in a positive way and NO idle chit chat in the thread.

If the poll option is broken for a vote, then each person only contributes once. That might be better anyway. Hey I'm an innocent bystander just trying to help out. I might actually attend sometime.

I will say this no matter who you are, you are allowed to start a thread or poll on your own. How else will you find out others view point? Thats what we do all year long. Why change now?

Rod

Kato
07-17-2004, 06:16 PM
I will be there to have fun. I heard some where along the line somebody is going to want to play pool and there might be some type of tournament. Count me in.

And Wendy, it's not that I like to woof, it's just that I've played a lot of pool with Rackemup /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kato~~~basically retired from pool but looking forward to hanging out with my pals. The faster I lose the faster I get to match up and woof /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
07-18-2004, 12:11 AM
Hi SPetty,

It amazes me that your attitude is so negative. Measley C, lowly C? It's beyond me that you made it to C with all that down talk. C stands for competitor. Not, cop out. Why would you think you'd go two and out? Man, I don't think that and I'm in the dang Open. If you don't play with better players and don't give your ranking any respect you'll end up getting better and posible sabatage your game as it is now. Is this the same woman that played with a cast in Vegas?

Regards,

C.C.

Rich R.
07-18-2004, 07:02 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> For a measley "C" player like myself, <hr /></blockquote>
What makes you think most of us are any better than a "C"?
I went 3 and out the first year and finished dead last, this past year. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> If all it takes for the scotch doubles swapping format to come back is a printer, hell, someone drive me to the store and I'll buy one for us to use!
<hr /></blockquote>
Unfortunately, it also requires a lap top. Dave has made it very clear, his program is free to use, but we still need the hardware. I have considered buying both a lap top and a printer, myself, but because of other financial circumstances, that will not be possible. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> Please be kind when setting me straight if this is wrong thinking. <hr /></blockquote>
The only thing I will set you straight on, is that last years format can not be done without the hardware.
I favor that format and thought it was the ideal situation and a hell of a lot of fun.
As for our current situation, I favor some type of doubles format, but, I will attend and have fun, whatever the format.

SPetty
07-18-2004, 08:58 AM
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the feedback. You're right. I'm sorry. I didn't intend the negativity. I hope you understood the point of my post was not the part you pointed out.

Ross
07-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Here is an alternative suggestion for CCBIII.

Partners are randomly assigned for each round. We play regular doubles (each partner shoots until he/she misses), rather than scotch doubles (where each partner shoots every other shot). Play a "Race to 3" each round instead of 2 games. After all tables have finished their Race to 3 (gives you time to schmooze if your table finishes early), members of the winning partnerships get another point on the board. Then everyone is assigned another partner and we all play another round. Repeat as necessary.

There would probably be enough time for maybe 10 rounds, so each person would get 9 or so different partners in the course of the tournament.

After the predetermined number of rounds or at a set time, the top 4 point getters would be put into heads up semifinal and final matches for the rest of us to watch and cheer and woof at. If several players were tied for 4th position then we would flip coins or do rock, paper, scissors, to reolve it.

This adds the competitive element of repeated races to 3 and the heads up playoff with audience for the top 4 point getters, cuts down on the constant reshuffling, adds the social element of partners (4 at a table instead of 2), and helps equalize everyones odds since lower skilled players will by chance often paired with higher skilled players and obviously vice versa.

This format (including the assignment of new partners after each round) can be done easily and quickly without a computer. I will explain how if it gets to that point. In fact, all you need is a large poster board to write the name of the players and to mark them down a point each time they are on a winning team.

This approach would be somewhere between CCBI (good competition, but too much sitting, not enough playing, and many left after being eliminated) and CCBII (great socially but maybe too hardware intensive, not competitive enough for some, and too much jumping around from table to table).

Just another possibility. Again, I will happily go with whatever the majority wants, as long as it is a joint decision.

Chris Cass
07-18-2004, 09:37 AM
Hi Susan,

I just feel your sweating over nothing. It's about us getting togather. I could care less about taking off the tourney in the least. My thoughts will be to share some goodtimes with good friends and meet knew ones. The other 98% of my brain will be on playing in the Open.

Then again, I'm worried about Tom' game. 11-5 and the snap? hmmmm I know he's been playing with some good company. I also owe him some pool time from last yr I think? It could have been all a dream but I doubt it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Anyway, I saw your apology to Tom. Tom and Wendy both are and have been working hard on getting sponsors and contacts to get this off the ground again for this yr. We'll miss Dave and his wonderfully sweet wife and that's a shame but, lets keep in mind that Tom and Wendy are putting their heart in this and for free.

I think if you'd like to get involved you should offer to help with the meeting of the knew people coming this yr. I know your one of them but they could use the help. I do remember oweing you a beer too. So, when we get to the tourney, if we have one, I'll pop for that beer. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I mentioned bar box to my buddy Wally because I know he plays exclusively on them. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now, no more talk about negative stuff in your game. C is a place that is the biggest jump in caliber for everyone. That's something to be very proud of. You owe it to yourself and the lesser player to recognize it as a big deal.

B is all about experimenting with english and A is about controlling it. Above that is all about learning everything about yourself and dumping the hotdog in you. LOL

Regards,

C.C.~~get ready for that jump lesson froggy.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
07-18-2004, 09:40 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Kato:</font><hr> I will be there to have fun. I heard some where along the line somebody is going to want to play pool and there might be some type of tournament. Count me in.

And Wendy, it's not that I like to woof, it's just that I've played a lot of pool with Rackemup /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kato~~~basically retired from pool but looking forward to hanging out with my pals. The faster I lose the faster I get to match up and woof /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Hey Liver-lips,

If you have a card game without me than I'm moving to Fla and buying the condo next to yours, throw naked partys alnight long and leave beer cans floating in the pool. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~can't wait to hug my pizza... /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

PQQLK9
07-18-2004, 09:43 AM
Hey Ross,I usually agree with the last person who speaks /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif but your format sounds good to me.You are always a voice of reason and don't let the Gators get you down. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Popcorn
07-18-2004, 09:48 AM
It didn't take long to forget the reason you all were getting together in the first place.

SPetty
07-18-2004, 09:55 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Tom and Wendy both are and have been working hard on getting sponsors and contacts to get this off the ground again for this yr. ...but, let's keep in mind that Tom and Wendy are putting their heart in this and for free.<hr /></blockquote>Yes, Yes, Yes. I think part of our problem is that they're doing such a good job that we don't even know they're doing it! Yes, we appreciate it very much. I hope they don't feel like they have to do it alone. I don't know what to do to express my appreciation to them for what they've done.

Chris Cass
07-18-2004, 09:56 AM
ahhhh the voice of reason. That's my buddy Popcorn.

C.C.

9 Ball Girl
07-18-2004, 11:06 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr> Now I saw your comments to the effect that this won't happen (sitting around). Please explain.<hr /></blockquote>I meant that you don't have to sit around and be serious while your opponent is shooting.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr>I also have a MAJOR problem with your comment to the effect "As far as the format of play, that's going to stay that way."???<hr /></blockquote>I typed that while I was in my pi$$ed off mode.

9 Ball Girl
07-18-2004, 11:20 AM
Thanks Chris! Yes it is a great job and it turns out great, and things turn out great when the people coordinating it love to do it, ya know? Tom and I really didn't think it was going to be such a big deal to change the format. Hell, we can play Hopskotch as long as we get together--that's the main reason.

Things started to get petty (no pun to you Susan) with the dinner forcing one of my buds to bow out of it and now the format and distribution of the prizes in our tourney. I respect everyone's opinions and hope things can work out.

Kato
07-18-2004, 12:34 PM
Chris, I'll be having my first POKER NIGHT the Saturday after I get home from the Open. You're always welcome and you'll always have a seat.

Kato

Frank_Glenn
07-18-2004, 12:39 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> Thanks Chris! Yes it is a great job and it turns out great, and things turn out great when the people coordinating it love to do it, ya know? Tom and I really didn't think it was going to be such a big deal to change the format. Hell, we can play Hopskotch as long as we get together--that's the main reason.

Things started to get petty (no pun to you Susan) with the dinner forcing one of my buds to bow out of it and now the format and distribution of the prizes in our tourney. I respect everyone's opinions and hope things can work out. <hr /></blockquote>

Well, I haven't been to one of these yet because I'm new to this forum (although I'm not new to the internet or pool). I will come and play no matter what game/format/prize is offered. I look forward to putting eyes on people, shaking hands and maybe hoisting a malted beverage or even a root beer. I appreciate all the work, and all the time put in, and all the donated prizes. I would come and play even if there were no prizes. I think most others feel the same. On the internet, it sometimes is unfortunate that the printed words do not convey the message the writer intended. Those that seemed to be unhappy were just pool players and we all know the difference between a new puppy and a pool player, right? Eventually the puppy quits whining. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif Party on.

Ross
07-18-2004, 03:24 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> ...I typed that while I was in my pi$$ed off mode. <hr /></blockquote>

Cool, Wendy - I've understood that mood too well recently. In fact I was in pi$$ed off mood last night at the pool hall. It was late and crowded and noisy and one guy was running his mouth at me and before I knew it I was in his face doing the "You talking to ME!" routine. In the light of the next day it is all pretty silly. I still need to learn to stay out of the pool hall drama, no matter how cranky I am. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

And I give you credit for coming back with a positive attitude after the whole brouhaha. I think everyone will be fine with everything before it's over. After all the last two tourneys have been overall great successes because the people who come are a great group- why wouldn't this one be! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Barbara
07-18-2004, 05:42 PM
Susan,

You haven't posted anyting negative. I agree with the disagreement about the change of the format. I haven't had time to read all the responses, but I'd rather play in a fun tournament and meet other CCBers than play in a competitition.

Barbara~~~has re-found playing for enjoyment this weekend... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Barbara
07-18-2004, 06:04 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>

I'll give Susan a free jump lesson right off the bat. <hr /></blockquote>

Hey hey hey!! I need a jump lesson, too!! Robin Dodson gave me a Frog (or is it a Tadpole) and I can't jump! Barry scored off the tip to make it flat and I haven't tried since. I was told and saw that the tip should be flat to jump. I gotta know. Teach me teach me teach me.
/ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Barbara

Wally_in_Cincy
07-19-2004, 07:05 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Popcorn:</font><hr> It didn't take long to forget the reason you all were getting together in the first place. <hr /></blockquote>

Personally, despite the social element, I would still prefer playing to sitting around after going 2-and-out.

Have you thought any more about coming up for the Open?

Wally_in_Cincy
07-19-2004, 07:08 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>

...I mentioned bar box to my buddy Wally because I know he plays exclusively on them....
<hr /></blockquote>

Hmmm... I don't know how you got that impression.

I play APA on Mondays on bar boxes.

I play Cincy Straight Pool League on 9-ft. Robertsons.

I play in a Saturday round-robin sometimes on 8-ft. Robertsons.

My home table is an 8-ft. Brunswick.

not that it matters...

Wally_in_Cincy
07-19-2004, 07:12 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr> ....In fact, all you need is a large poster board to write the name of the players and to mark them down a point each time they are on a winning team.....<hr /></blockquote>

yeh, just assign each player a number 1 thru 32, when you win it is your responsibilty to mark it. No official scorekeeper is required.

Ross, I read an article a while back about a guy who actually runs a business with pencil, paper, and adding machines. No computer. It can be done /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
07-19-2004, 07:14 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> ...Things started to get petty with the dinner forcing one of my buds to bow out of it...<hr /></blockquote>

Bowing out for no good reason could be perceived as being petty also, or petulant.

Chris Cass
07-19-2004, 07:17 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Kato:</font><hr> Chris, I'll be having my first POKER NIGHT the Saturday after I get home from the Open. You're always welcome and you'll always have a seat.

Kato <hr /></blockquote>

Great. when you get home huh? Well, as long as you envite Gizmo and his owners. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll pack up the Cass clan and head towards the palm trees. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.

Chris Cass
07-19-2004, 07:25 AM
My Bad Wally,

I thought you just played bar boxes. Now that I know your just like me. I play on everything. An ace of none but the last 3 mths before the last open it was all bar boxes.

Just wanted to make you feel at home bud. I also wanted to just hit a few with you to enjoy your company. Thanks for letting me know though. I was thinking of giving you massive weight on the 9 ft. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Too late now buddy. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~going to meet Wally... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
07-19-2004, 07:30 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>
Hey hey hey!! I need a jump lesson, too!! Robin Dodson gave me a Frog (or is it a Tadpole) and I can't jump! Barry scored off the tip to make it flat and I haven't tried since. I was told and saw that the tip should be flat to jump. I gotta know. Teach me teach me teach me.
/ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>

The tip was flat on the ceramic ones that Raven cues sells. If you have a LePro then, it should be low but have somewhat of an arch for the jump draw shots. Anyway, we'll check it out at the tourney. You a jump lesson? Of course, we'll move Susan down to second. LOL

Regards,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif what did Barry tell you? LOL I can hear him now. "Barabara, how many tips do you want me to put on this jump cue?" hahahahahahahahaha

Kato
07-19-2004, 07:46 PM
Wally, you never stop playing, there's always a table buddy and I'll be there waiting for ya. We can have a contest to see if either of us can make "3 freakin' balls" /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kato~~~can't make many balls in a row.

Karatemom
07-19-2004, 10:58 PM
POKER??? Did I hear someone say Texas Hold 'Em? I'm there!!!!!

Heide

Chris Cass
07-19-2004, 11:56 PM
Hi Redhell,

Can't wait to meet you. That'll be 4 people I know from Canada. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ross gave away some of his personal collection of aacustats tapes last yr when you did all kinds of stuff during play. It was so much fun and the way they did it was cool. I had a blast.

WTG Ross,

C.C.

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 12:00 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Karatemom:</font><hr> POKER??? Did I hear someone say Texas Hold 'Em? I'm there!!!!!

Heide <hr /></blockquote>

There's already 1 1/2 gamblers too many in this household. Well, 1 gambler and 1/2 woofer. hahahaha

/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif,

C.C.~~ok honey it's time to go to sleep. you've got work to go to tomorrow and I have to clean this house. it's full of dirty shafts. hahahaha

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 12:11 AM
Ok Wendy,

It's time to get everything back on track again. I don't know if Tom is going to do this or not? He does deserve a vacation. Last yrs format was the best. One that I did have fun with but not used to. I'm used to competeing and that was all about fun so maybe, it's not such a bad idea.

Who's going to step up and take some initiative here? I just got news that the ph is set in place, thanks Brady. Now, we don't have a lap top so lets do it by hand.

Who's the director. It'll take most of your time and you'll be asked every two minutes, Where am I playing? I don't suggest Barbara' services, due to the fact, her and Tom, run tourneys constantly and it is their vacations from it too.

So, someone raise a hand please.

Regards,

C.C.

RedHell
07-20-2004, 07:36 AM
OK I'm raising a hand here...

As I have no choice, I will be travelling with my laptop. I will have my laptop for us to use at the tourney, if you guys chose to use it. I do not have a printer tho, so we might need to do this on screen. Unless I have a phone line and keep faxing the sheet to the PH /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

My wife will be there and I hope she'll be interested in doing the data input. Still we will need a director as I have no experience doing it... in pool anyway !

Can someone step up please ?

Wally_in_Cincy
07-20-2004, 07:39 AM
I don't think we will have to have a computer to run the tournament.

I will volunteer to do whatever I can. Like I said I can create and print a 24 x 36 chart here at work.

Barbara
07-20-2004, 07:43 AM
Wally,

I've got plenty of charts.

The question is, since I wasn't there last year, who is in favor of the tourny format like it was last year or what kind of format are we looking at this year?

Barbara

RedHell
07-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Wally,

Because of what I do for a leaving, I will have my portable anyway. Use it or not, doesn't matter to me....

RedHell
07-20-2004, 07:54 AM
What I would like to know is, is Tom still taking care of it ?

We have to put the differences aside and behave like the adults that we are...

I might not be able to go to the Open more than once so I wish this will be the best experience I could have. Seeing this tourney falling apart would be really disapointing.

Wendy and Tom have made a tromedous job handling this and I wouldn't want them to stop taking care of it. I have stayed pretty much away from this discussion as I wasn't there last year and don't really care much about the format.

I do see that there is a difference of opinion between the members and would like it to be resolved. I agree with Barbara that a vote would be in order and I hope that it would not offend our team of organiser !

So let's finnish this debate...

Tom are you still in ?
Wendy are you still ?

Ross
07-20-2004, 08:50 AM
My suggestion is that we make a final decision on a format first, then if Tom will direct it great, if not one of us will step up and do it.

So far the specific formats that have been mentioned are:

1. Double-elimination
2. Regular doubles, races to 3, then switch tables and partners. Playoff at end for top finishers.
3. Scotch doubles, play 2 games, change tables and partners. Playoff at end (last years format).

Are there any others we should consider? Once we get a final list of formats then participants can vote. Is that what people want to do?

RedHell
07-20-2004, 08:55 AM
Ross, agreed...

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 09:01 AM
Hi RedHell,

That's fantastic. Great to have a lab top. The format probably should be the one that Dave has and I believe Wendy can get the program. SPetty has offerd to buy the printer so, were set.

I believe the format that Dave used is more than fair. I'm used to the competition side of the game but that was indeed fun for all. I and others don't want to steal but want everyone to have a good time like lest time.

The format Tom and Wendy came up with is a good format but realistically speaking, Ross had the pleaser of sitting around for 2 hrs waiting to play one yr and most who lost had went back to the Open to watch play or back to the rooms.

This format Dave came up with keeps it going constantly and you get to play with everyone and it is a ball too, I must add. It's fair and will put everyone that doesn't have the confidence to compete on the same level and possible stop their heart from pounding so hard. LOL Me Too.

Ok, as far as Tom goes. Tom, wants the best for the board. He's a players director. He's always been open(no pun) to share ideas and up for any changes. He never said cut and dry nor did Wendy. He just had to put something out there to start with. Someone had to take charge and get things rolling. Imput is what he understands and isn't opposed to anything we want.

I think he's tried really hard for us 2 yrs in a row and it's time we pay him back and take some responsibility on our own. He I'm sure got a bit flustered with the neg comments that was said but people like to jump to conclusions and when he tried to compensate he got slammed a bit. Well, who needs that on your vacation and working the tourney should change hands for everyone to take part of the load. We should own up and get our friend to understand we respect and appreciate all he's done.

Tom will undoubtably be there and will lend a hand but it's time to give the guy a break. imho Now, my question is? Does everyone own a lap top in Canada? HAHAHAHAHA

We love you Tom but I just fired you. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~my best Donald Trump immitation. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Frank_Glenn
07-20-2004, 09:11 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RedHell:</font><hr> Wally,

Because of what I do for a leaving, I will have my portable anyway. Use it or not, doesn't matter to me....
<hr /></blockquote>

I have a Lexmark printer that I will donate. It's USB. It can be a prize after the tourney as far as I care. If something keeps me from being there (and I don't know of anything yet) I will take it to Q Masters and leave it for you guys.

RedHell
07-20-2004, 09:17 AM
Sounds great Frank, USB will be fine...

If you could give me the detail on model number, I'll make sure I have the drivers downloaded before going....

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 09:47 AM
This is too great. Now, this is what the event is all about. Thanks Frank, You da man. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mr Ingrate
07-20-2004, 10:04 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi RedHell,

That's fantastic. Great to have a lab top. The format probably should be the one that Dave has and I believe Wendy can get the program.<hr /></blockquote>
Chris,

Anyone can get the software from my site. Just go to http://www.davespooltools.com and select the fun tournament director. Download it to your hard drive and then run the install. It has extensive help that can be accessed from a drop down menu.

Barbara
07-20-2004, 10:17 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Mr Ingrate:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi RedHell,

That's fantastic. Great to have a lab top. The format probably should be the one that Dave has and I believe Wendy can get the program.<hr /></blockquote>
Chris,

Anyone can get the software from my site. Just go to http://www.davespooltools.com and select the fun tournament director. Download it to your hard drive and then run the install. It has extensive help that can be accessed from a drop down menu. <hr /></blockquote>

Thanks Dave!!

Looks like we're set to go for the tourny, if everyone's okay with it.

Barbara

Rich R.
07-20-2004, 10:39 AM
Red, thanks for stepping up. Dave's format is great.
My wife, Cathy, helped with a lot of the data entry last year and she has volunteered to help out again. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RedHell
07-20-2004, 10:58 AM
I would like to make something clear....

I don't want to step on Wendy's or Tom's toes. All I did is make my portable available for the tourney...

I would like to see Wendy and Tom put a word in this discussion, they have been silent for too long !

Wally_in_Cincy
07-20-2004, 11:05 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr> ...3. Scotch doubles, play 2 games, change tables and partners. Playoff at end (last years format).<hr /></blockquote>

I vote for that.

and I will do whatever I can to help run the tourney if Tom or 9BG don't want the hassle.

Rich R.
07-20-2004, 11:07 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RedHell:</font><hr> I would like to make something clear....

I don't want to step on Wendy's or Tom's toes. All I did is make my portable available for the tourney...

I would like to see Wendy and Tom put a word in this discussion, they have been silent for too long ! <hr /></blockquote>
I think we all understand that Red. No one wants to push Tom and Wendy out. They have done a great job and it would be fantastic if they would reconsider and continue.

Dave's format from last year was very popular and you have made a very generous offer, to let us use your computer. This will allow the use of the format, which seems to be favored by the majority.

Now all we need is a TD. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Frank_Glenn
07-20-2004, 12:58 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RedHell:</font><hr> Sounds great Frank, USB will be fine...

If you could give me the detail on model number, I'll make sure I have the drivers downloaded before going.... <hr /></blockquote>

Lexmark Z51

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 02:01 PM
Hi Rich,

I was thinking maybe you? Gosh, I'll help with something too. BTW, the format thing is optional also. What everyone feels comfortable with is good for me. I do think the last yrs tourney was good about not making everyone wait but I'm open to anything as everyone else is. I thought it was kind of fair with the different calibers playing togather.

I seriously was thinking of you as TD.

Sincerely,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 02:07 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RedHell:</font><hr> I would like to make something clear....

I don't want to step on Wendy's or Tom's toes. All I did is make my portable available for the tourney...

I would like to see Wendy and Tom put a word in this discussion, they have been silent for too long ! <hr /></blockquote>

That's all? Well, Wendy is always star gazing and I don't think Tom can see his toes. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~running away, I might have everyone there with "Super soakers". /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 02:11 PM
Hi Dave,

That's just great and very nice of you to help out. Are all you people from Canada so classy? Maybe I need to move there. Thanks Dave, your Tops.

Regards,

C.C.

RedHell
07-20-2004, 02:25 PM
Thanks Frank,

I just looked it up and XP support the Z51 native. So that's all good.

Should work no problems...

RedHell
07-20-2004, 02:27 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>That's all? Well, Wendy is always star gazing and I don't think Tom can see his toes. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~running away, I might have everyone there with "Super soakers". /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Well of course you will also have my great computer skills available also ! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mr Ingrate
07-20-2004, 02:49 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi Dave,

That's just great and very nice of you to help out. Are all you people from Canada so classy? Maybe I need to move there. Thanks Dave, your Tops.

Regards,

C.C. <hr /></blockquote>

Hi Chris,

Nope, I'm the only one ..... just kidding!

There are a lot of classy people on the CCB, you're definitely one of them. Thank you for your kind words.

I would suggest that both Cathy &amp; Red download the software to their computers and try it out ahead of time.

I'll answer any questions by email or, if you like, call me at (250) 382-0223. Just remember, I'm on the LEFT Coast (Pacific Time). I'm usually working on my projects from 8:30 AM to 11:30 AM and then I'm out taking advantage of the great climate here. After a walk and a long lunch at one of the many fantastic restaurants, I'm back home around 3:00 PM.

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 03:45 PM
Great Dave,

Thanks for mentioning for them to do it. I know I can download but puter savey, I'm not. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Take care Dave and others should know you the way I do. It would show them what maturity is all about. Your a very wise and noble gent with a Godsend for a wife. That was our pleasure spending time with you both along with Rich and Cathy. Just so many wonderful people here that makes life worthwhile. Thanks boss.

Your friend,

C.C.

Tom_In_Cincy
07-20-2004, 06:10 PM
RedHell,

Sorry about the silence, I have been very busy since last Friday. I do work full time and spend my weekends at the pool hall running tournaments. I checked CCB on Sunday nite and was overwhelmed with PM's.

I am very happy to see people stepping up and getting involved. I was hoping this would happen.

Free pool, free prizes and a free tournament, all you have to do is show up.

cueball1950
07-20-2004, 06:55 PM
If Tom cannot make it, I will step aside from playing in the tournament and i will try to run the tournament chart. I have never run this kind of chart before. so it will be trial and error at its best. That is only if Tom cannot make it. That should solve the tournament director problem. let me know what you think.......................mike

Barbara
07-20-2004, 07:58 PM
Mike,

We've got Dave Syrja's software, RedHell's laptop, Frank Glenn's printer, and Rich R's wonderful wife to oversee the chart. Step in and help any other way you want.

Personally, Redhell's getting a big bag of nuts from me because he's already committed himself with the CCB pins.

Barbara

Ross
07-20-2004, 09:02 PM
Mike, I would vote for you or Wally (OR PREFERABLY BOTH) to run the tournament since you have both offered to help. I also will be glad to help if needed.

I do think we are making this more difficult than we have to, though. I think we could do it easily without lugging in a computer or a printer. How would we do this, you ask?

We only need two things:

1. A poster board to keep the score. The board will have rows numbered 1 to whatever (20, 24, 38, 32, etc. as long as it is a multiple of 4). At the beginning of the tournament we randomly assign players to the row slots. There could also be columns for scores for each round.

2. Premade lists of partner pairings (based on numbers, not names) for each round of play. The list would, for each round, state which numbered players are partners and also give the numbers for their opponents. For example for 16 players the list would be something like:

Round 1: 1&amp;2 vs. 3&amp;4, 5&amp;6 vs. 7&amp;8, 9&amp;10 vs. 11&amp;12, 13&amp;14 vs. 1&amp;16
Round 2: 1&amp;5 vs. 9&amp;13, 2&amp;6 vs. 10&amp;14, 3&amp;7 vs. 11&amp;15, 5&amp;8 vs. 12&amp;16
Round 3: ...
Round 4: ...

After each table completes their round, the players come up to the poster board and write in the number of games they won that round (0,1, or 2). The TD does not have to be involved if he/she doesn't want to.

After a predetermined number of rounds OR at a predetermined time, the points are added up and the top 4 go into a semifinal heads up play (if that is what we want to do) or maybe the top 2 go to a finals game.

Then all the TD (other than settle the ugly disputes that CC will of course start /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ) would have to do is let everyone know when each new round is to start. At that point the players would look at the partner list, find their partner and their opponents, then find a table and begin play.

No computer, no printer, no hassle. I would be happy to make up the partner pairing lists for various numbers of players (16, 20, 24, 28, and 32).

Note that we probably won't end up with exactly a multiple of 4 players, but that is not a problem. Say, for example, we end up with 21 players. Then we can go with a 24 player board, with 3 ficticious players named "bye." Then if your partner for any round is named "bye" then you are your own partner. You still get 0, 1, or 2 points depending on how many games you win that round. That way no one has to sit out.

There may not be enough time or rounds for everyone to have every other CCB'er as a partner, but will WILL get to play at the same table with almost all of the other players (as partner or opponent).

I think if we do it this way, the TD's will also be able to play in the tournament. Especially since Kathy and possibly Dave's wife (I can't remember) also have offered to be available to help. What do others think?

Ross ~ wondering if I am the only one voting for the slightly more competitive races to 3 for each round, with 1 point going to the winning partnership? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chris Cass
07-20-2004, 10:32 PM
Me a trouble maker? HAHAHAHAHA Noway man Ross, I will have to add,


Also, people that need to be involved, must provide some assistance. See the below items.

1. Someone needs to volunteer to write out name tags for everyone that will be involved in the tournament. Eliminating the embarassing moment of asking " Who are you?"

2. Someone needs to bring a bottle of asprin (or buffrin) for the Friday nite Saturday morning hangovers.

3. Someone needs to be there in the morning early to help set up the table assignments with the Q-Masters management.

4. Also someone needs to help Wendy get all the prizes there.

5. Someone will have to help the person with the laptop and printer. Giving out the score sheets and table assignments.

Whew, had enough? LOL I type mistake free that time. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm real good with Mike but I wouldn't want to be the one to whine about anything. LOL

Regards,

C.C.~~goody two shoes.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 04:33 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi Rich,

I was thinking maybe you? Gosh, I'll help with something too. BTW, the format thing is optional also. What everyone feels comfortable with is good for me. I do think the last yrs tourney was good about not making everyone wait but I'm open to anything as everyone else is. I thought it was kind of fair with the different calibers playing togather.

I seriously was thinking of you as TD.

Sincerely,

C.C.~~ /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>
Damn, I step away from the computer to eat, play some pool and sleep, a little, and you go totally crazy. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Here is the deal.
I have never in my life run a tournament of any kind.
I haven't played in that many tournaments.
I would not be a great choice as a tournament director.

However, if no one else wants the job, I will be happy to do it for the group. I don't think I can screw it up too bad.
Keep in mind, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel, to pick me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I would encourage Tom to continue in this job, but if he chooses not to, I will support any one else, who takes the job.
If no one else wants the job, I will take it. With everyones help, I'm sure we can make this work. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 04:35 AM
Dave, we will be downloading your program as soon as we get the chance. Cathy is confident she can run the program, as long as there are no technical computer problems. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Hope you and Joanne are well. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We will miss you both at the Open.

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 04:46 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote cueball1950:</font><hr> If Tom cannot make it, I will step aside from playing in the tournament and i will try to run the tournament chart. I have never run this kind of chart before. so it will be trial and error at its best. That is only if Tom cannot make it. That should solve the tournament director problem. let me know what you think.......................mike <hr /></blockquote>
I probably should have read all the posts, before adding my 2 cents, above.

Above, I volunteered to take the TD job as a last resort, but now I read that Mike has volunteered. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
He is a much better choice than me.

Mike, you have the total support of Cathy and myself. We will do whatever we can to help.

BTW, there is no reason why you will not be able to play. The computer does most of the work. Cathy and Red's wife will be handling the entry of data. IIRC, After you make the necessary arrangements with the room, you will just be handing out the slips for each round of matches.
Maybe Dave will correct me, if I am wrong. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Dave played last year, while handling the tournament.
You had to leave early last year and I don't want you to miss playing again. We will all be there to help. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 04:53 AM
Ross, I have no doubt that your system would work and work well. Cathy thinks we could run the tournament, by hand, using the matrix from Dave's program.
The computer just makes things a lot easier and faster, with a lot less chance of an error.

Using your method, in the middle of a party/tournament atmosphere, I'm afraid we would have a lot of errors on the board. I know I would be the first one to screw it up. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Since people have been kind enough to volunteer the hardware, let's take advantage of it and use it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ross
07-21-2004, 07:34 AM
Oh, OK, Rich. You guys have experience with entering the info into the computer from last year, not me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 07:41 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr> Oh, OK, Rich. You guys have experience with entering the info into the computer from last year, not me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif <hr /></blockquote>
Well, my wife, Cathy, has the experience. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
She told me, after she input all the names to start, it wasn't hard at all.
I'll have to take her word for it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Barbara
07-21-2004, 07:42 AM
CC,

How about a player's meeting? Who's going to call hits?

I'll be there to help out as much as I can. And I don't have a ton of trunk space, but I can get some stuff to the PH. Just give me directions!

Barbara

Chris Cass
07-21-2004, 07:47 AM
Hi Rich,

After finding out Mike would be willing to take on the challenge I thought, that's a great idea. He knows that he can count on all of us to help out if possible.

Tom has informed me that he will be there but won't get there till about noon. Someone needs to be there at around 9am. He went on to say that his feelings weren't hurt and pretty much, has many things he wants to do this year at the Open, including a Miz invitation for dinner.

He's thinking it might be his last year going to the Open and has other tourney plans like DCC for next. So, he would appreciate it if someone else could run the event. You know the event has been successful both years Tom has helped out.

He told me that he thought it would be a welcome change. As you know he didn't compete last year and has no real excitement to compete at this years either. He just wants to sit back on auto pilot and play a relaxing game with one of his closest buds. I told him I thought he deserved it.

He doesn't harbor any ill-will about anything or anyone. just a welcome thought. He'll be there to share the fun but just for one year wants to get a little break from running tourneys as he does every weekend at HardTimes.

You know he's such a good man and I can't tell him enough about the fine example he has set for TD's everywhere. He will be there and it's not like he's not going to have a good time. He just wants a break. I told him I would double his pay but he laughed. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 07:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ross:</font><hr> Oh, OK, Rich. You guys have experience with entering the info into the computer from last year, not me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I was with you about charting it on paper but if they say the computer will work then let's do that.

I just hope the printer driver works /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Chris Cass
07-21-2004, 08:22 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> CC,

How about a player's meeting? Who's going to call hits?

I'll be there to help out as much as I can. And I don't have a ton of trunk space, but I can get some stuff to the PH. Just give me directions!

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>

Me Directions? HAHAHAHAHA Barbara, surely you jest. I get lost in Moline and I've lived here for 13 yrs. LOL I don't understand the hit's part. I'm not going to let you get hit and if I do well, call the hospital because a good strong leaf blower can roll me down the block.

Regards,

C.C.~~likes the way Barbara talks. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ok, the meeting for the players should be probably around 10am with practice. Will probably start around 10:30am. Most people met for breakfast at the Holiday Inn last time. The breakfast buffet was $6. and had scrambled eggs, sausage, lil square potatoes (not like McDonalds but small cut up frenchfries), bacon, baggles w/cream cheese, fruit and coffee and pop were separate. The other restaurants are not within walking distance for those without transportation. I believe the buffet starts serving at 9am.

I do want to tell those staying at the Holiday Inn that they have this cool shuttle driver that will take you to the Burger King and back for food in your room. I don't suggest ordering from the room service. Unless your rich and the menu is the same as the restaurants menu. Oh, Earl might show up there along with others too for breakfast and you'll know it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone needing transportation can get a ride as everyone will be more than happy to. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Oh, and watchout for Nostroke in the parking lot. He has a habit of people cutting in front of him. LOL

9 Ball Girl
07-21-2004, 08:27 AM
What happened to people meeting up at Q-Master's at 10 AM to warm up followed by a little meeting? Has that changed too?

Chris Cass
07-21-2004, 08:33 AM
Woops,

I don't know? Tom gave me that list to post. How else would you think there was no mistakes. LOL Ok, what you said. I'll put in an edit if I can. Come to think of it I think the buffet was only opened after 9am. Asprin or tylenol is a must. Someone has to bring some atleast for themselves.

Regards,

C.C.

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 08:45 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> ...lil square potatoes (not like McDonalds but small cut up frenchfries<hr /></blockquote>

CC,

I think those are commonly referred to as "hash browns" /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

you gotta get outta the cornfield more often dude /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 09:21 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> CC,

How about a player's meeting? Who's going to call hits?

I'll be there to help out as much as I can. And I don't have a ton of trunk space, but I can get some stuff to the PH. Just give me directions!

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>
Barbara, this, of course will be up to the tournament director, but in the past, the TD has had a meeting just prior to starting play. I believe Wendy already posted the times earlier in this thread.

As far as calling hits, this is a informal, fun tournament. In the past, we have just grabbed a player from the next table to watch a hit. Try to pick the guy without the dark glasses and the white cane. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

You will be able to find directions to Q-Masters in the official program, at the Open. They make sure everyone knows how to get there. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 09:27 AM
Chris, as Wendy said, the last two years, we have been able to meet at Q-Masters at 10:00, for warm up and set up. We have had the players meeting and started playing around 11:00, if the lights stay on. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Many people have trouble making it by 11:00 and others just stay there from the night before. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

BTW, the breakfast buffet at the Holiday Inn is open long before 9:00.

Rich R.
07-21-2004, 09:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 9 Ball Girl:</font><hr> What happened to people meeting up at Q-Master's at 10 AM to warm up followed by a little meeting? Has that changed too? <hr /></blockquote>
Wendy, don't rely on Chris's memory. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif
We have always been able to warm up, beginning at 10:00 and started playing around 11:00.

PQQLK9
07-21-2004, 10:03 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> ...lil square potatoes (not like McDonalds but small cut up frenchfries<hr /></blockquote>

CC,

I think those are commonly referred to as "hash browns" /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

you gotta get outta the cornfield more often dude /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Wrong! They are called "Home Fries" "Hash Browns" are little strips molded together. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 10:12 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote PQQLK9:</font><hr> Wrong! They are called "Home Fries" "Hash Browns" are little strips molded together. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif <hr /></blockquote>

/ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I knew what you were going to say before I opened the post.

In different regions I believe there may be a fine line and a bit of crossover between home fries and hash browns, but in this case I stand corrected.

Nick, we just called home fries "fried potatoes". You cut a tater into quarters lengthwise, then into 1/4" thick pieces, then fry them in Crisco until they're partially brown on the outside, tender on the inside, and greasy all over /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Best served with soup beans and corn pone.

Man, we gotta start a new thread. This one is getting too leggy.