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highsea
07-21-2004, 12:05 PM
I would like to know what documents Sandy Berger removed and destroyed from the National archives.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kzgazette/index.ssf?/base/columns-1/109042511426350.xml

This sure makes it look like he was trying to hide something from the Clinton era terrorism reports.

Barbara
07-21-2004, 12:57 PM
Stuffing note cards into his pockets and socks??

That doesn't sound too innocent to me.

Barbara

crawdaddio
07-21-2004, 01:24 PM
I agree it seems a little questionable. Although, as it has been stated by others, the timing of the exposure of the story is suspect as well.
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(Berger:)``Last year, when I was in the Archives reviewing documents, I made an honest mistake. It's one that I deeply regret,'' Berger said. ``I dealt with this issue in October 2003 fully and completely. Everything that I have done all along in this process has been for the purpose of aiding and supporting the work of the 9/11 commission, and any suggestion to the contrary is simply, absolutely wrong.''
..................Many Democrats, including former President Clinton himself, suggested that politics were behind disclosure of the probe only days before Thursday's scheduled release of the Sept. 11 commission report. That report is expected to be highly critical of the government's response to the growing al-Qaida threat, a potential blow to President Bush's re-election campaign.

....................``This matter is a year old,'' he(Breuer) said on NBC's ``Today'' show.

``Never once, in all my discussions with the Justice Department has there been any assertion like that,'' Breuer said. ``It was an advertent mistake ... All I can tell you is that when this matter started a year ago, I said to the Department of Justice that we were going to deal with this in good faith, that we wouldn't go to the press and that we wouldn't make this political .... and then suddenly, days before the 9/11 commission report comes out, this is leaked.''

................The documents involved have been a key point of contention between the Clinton and Bush administrations on the question of who responded more forcefully to the threat of al-Qaida terrorism. Written by former National Security Council aide Richard Clarke, they discuss the 1999 plot to attack U.S. millennium celebrations and offer more than two dozen recommendations for improving the response to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. <hr /></blockquote>

eg8r
07-21-2004, 01:33 PM
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I agree it seems a little questionable. Although, as it has been stated by others, the timing of the exposure of the story is suspect as well.
<hr /></blockquote> Not sure what is so suspect about any of it, this is news and should be told.
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Everything that I have done all along in this process has been for the purpose of aiding and supporting the work of the 9/11 commission, and any suggestion to the contrary is simply, absolutely wrong.''
<hr /></blockquote> This quote is funny, did he think he was "aiding" when he decided to remove the documents? Who was he aiding? Does Clinton (one of the people questioning the timing) think it should have been swept under the carpet and never told? He never says he wishes it came out back in 03.

eg8r

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 01:36 PM
as reported by Dan Rather:

Every network but CBS led Tuesday night with the Sandy Berger tale of taking and then losing secret documents from the National Archives and resigning Tuesday from his advisory role with the Kerry campaign. Instead, Rather began: “Almost two a day. That is the rate American troops are dying in Iraq with the total now approaching 900 since the war began.” When he arrived at Berger he tried to discredit the story by insisting “this was triggered by a carefully orchestrated leak about Berger, and the timing of it appears to be no coincidence.” CBS’s John Roberts affirmed Bill Clinton’s praise for Berger by noting how “the 9/11 Commission agrees it got everything it wanted from Berger.” Roberts maintained: “Republicans and Democrats alike say the timing of the investigation’s disclosure smells like politics, leaked to the press just two days before the 9/11 Commission report comes out.”

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040721.asp#1

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<font color="blue">He focuses on the timing of the leak as opposed to the egregious and highly illegal behavior that could affect national security.

What if this had been Condi Rice? She would be in Leavenworth /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif </font color>

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 01:40 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote crawdaddio:</font><hr> I agree it seems a little questionable. ....,


I made an honest mistake....<hr /></blockquote>

YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND

HE STUFFED THEM IN HIS FREAKING SOCKS FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!!!!!!!!!

insert head shake /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

eg8r
07-21-2004, 01:41 PM
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What if this had been Condi Rice? She would be in Leavenworth <hr /></blockquote> Q would be jumping up and down in complete excitement. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif So far, he has been quiet.

eg8r

Wally_in_Cincy
07-21-2004, 01:42 PM
another schmuck falls on his sword for the Clintons

How much misery will Bill and Hillary cause before they finally go away?

crawdaddio
07-21-2004, 01:52 PM
Democrats, Republicans, leaking stories at good times for one or the other, stealing documents, selling gov't secrets, outing undercover operatives, flat out lying, etc...............it's all politricks, and is done by democrats and republicans alike.

highsea
07-21-2004, 02:07 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote crawdaddio:</font><hr> I agree it seems a little questionable. Although, as it has been stated by others, the timing of the exposure of the story is suspect as well. <hr /></blockquote> Well, Kerry has to make some response, right? So they try to make the timing of this going public into the story, rather than the actual story (which is the theft and destruction of the documents).

crawdaddio
07-21-2004, 03:17 PM
Why no story almost a year ago, when it actually happened?

highsea
07-21-2004, 03:27 PM
How the hell should I know? You tell me.

highsea
07-21-2004, 03:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote crawdaddio:</font><hr> Why no story almost a year ago, when it actually happened? <hr /></blockquote>Another good question might be, why did Berger wait until now to resign from the Kerry campaign? And another, did he provide any classified material to the Kerry camp?

Cueless Joey
07-21-2004, 03:40 PM
Make me a saw CNC then I'll tell you. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
If the Bush people leaked this to undermine Kerry's campaign, they did it too early.
I'd have done it in October.
I wonder where this is heading though.
The spin doctors and counter-spin doctors are gonna earn their money on this one.

pooltchr
07-22-2004, 06:58 AM
If you get caught "accidentally" putting something in your socks in a retail store, you will find yourself being escorted to jail immediately.
Steve~~can honestly say I have never put anything "accidentally" in my socks.