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Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 05:53 AM
Hi All,

I've had nothing but cb's on my mind as of late. I was wondering if anyone has any information about the weight and size of this polka dot cb being used at the Open this yr? I talked with a friend of mine and his take was that the cb's differnt finishes are the main differences with the way they play and that the weight was second.

I was always thinking of the weight first. This comes from the way I preceived it. He went on to say the finishes some rough like the Aramith logo ball and the red circle cb are mainly different rolling because of this. Now, if the finishes are the same then the weight then becomes the factor. What do you think? Anyway, if it's all possible could someone that owns one of these polka dots could share some specs or their thoughts on the ball. I think these balls are too over priced on ebay as these people think they can sell it for $40- $60. Thanks to Aramith changing their selling strategy so late in the game. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~is it bigger? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Leviathan
08-09-2004, 07:05 AM
'Morning, Chris. I just did my good deed for the day--sent Saluc an e-mail asking whether the TV cb differs from the all-white Super Aramith cb in weight or smoothness. We don't want you worrying about this, Killer! Seriously, I haven't heard any of the touring pros complain about the ball's playing properties. But they're much too cool to complain in public anyway, right? /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I really did e-mail Saluc, and I'll let you know what they say.

Alan

Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 07:39 AM
LOL I along with Brady did the same thing. I don't think they would complain. Everything, Arimith puts out is the best imho. I like the others playing the tourney, would like a running start, I'm assumming? Now don't some idiot think I'm comparing myself the the pros. Just a competitor is all. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Regards,

C.C.

woody_968
08-09-2004, 10:12 AM
CC I have one and I really dont think it plays any different than a red circle. But thats just me /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

SPetty
08-09-2004, 10:18 AM
Hi Chris,

It looks like your pal and business partner Rip has one. There's one on his camel colored table near his nifty cue cleaning/sealing/trimming/burnishing machine in one of his pics on yahoo. Maybe he can give you a report on it.

Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 10:24 AM
Hi Woody,

How does it compare to the red circle in size and weight? Also, compared to the size as then rest of the rack? I don't care about the dots in the least.

Thanks for the quick response,

C.C.~~I was thinking of playing with the regular Arimith cb from the other sets. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 10:28 AM
Thanks SPetty,

I never saw it or didn't actually pay attention to it. Woody came back with a reply so quick and I figured I'd ask him about it. Anyone will do as I don't remember ever playing with one. At the Open last yr it was only used on the TV table. Had I beat Keith I would have had the opportunity to do so with Buddy. Oh well. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The ones we used otherwise were the Arimith cb's that come with the set. That I found was heavier than the red circles I've been plaing with. Then again, the ones we have at the hall are kind of worn a bit.

Regards,

C.C.~~saving Rip for the big stuff. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Eric.
08-09-2004, 11:01 AM
Chris,

The "pokie dot" CB's are the same size and weight as the Aramith CB with the red logo. They are for sale thru Muellers if you want to buy one.

As far as the Open, I think it's only used on the TV table.


Eric

Tom_In_Cincy
08-09-2004, 11:32 AM
Eric.
This is what I heard from last years (2003 Derby and US Open players) that had a chance to play with the pokie-dot cb.

The only difference was the extra 5 red circles.

Chris will make it to the TV table this year.. and I want the tape.

Eric.
08-09-2004, 11:38 AM
I hear ya, Tom. I mean, if it were really an issue, I'm sure someone could buy one and weigh it on a postage scale, although there are better things to do with one's time.


Eric >C'ya in Sept.

Wally_in_Cincy
08-09-2004, 11:42 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Eric.:</font><hr> I hear ya, Tom. I mean, if it were really an issue, I'm sure someone could buy one and weigh it on a postage scale, although there are better things to do with one's time.

Eric<hr /></blockquote>

Yes there are. Like chiseling open a bar table cue ball to see what's in it. Or disecting a Predator BK.

CCB &lt;~~ home of amatuer billiard forensic specialists /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

woody_968
08-09-2004, 12:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi Woody,

How does it compare to the red circle in size and weight? Also, compared to the size as then rest of the rack? I don't care about the dots in the least.

Thanks for the quick response,

C.C.~~I was thinking of playing with the regular Arimith cb from the other sets. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I havent actually measured them, but from what I can tell they are the same size, and if there is a weight difference I wouldnt know it. I got mine with a set of Super Aramith Pros that I bought, and if I remember right it is supposed to be the same weight as the object balls.

All I can tell you is I am very pleased with the set, and I actually like playing with the red dots. I can tell when I put any english on the CB, even if I didnt mean to /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

9 Ball Girl
08-09-2004, 12:14 PM
Chris, I played with the measled cue ball this weekend during the Big Apple Challenge and the only difference I noticed was the polkadots. It did take some getting used to when I got down to shoot 'cause I would look at the dots and think that I had to aim on one of them.

Eric.
08-09-2004, 12:26 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> Or disecting a Predator BK.

CCB &lt;~~ home of amatuer billiard forensic specialists /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>

O.K., you got me /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


Eric &gt;when you're bored, the mind is a terrible thing

woody_968
08-09-2004, 12:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr>
Yes there are. Like chiseling open a bar table cue ball to see what's in it. Or disecting a Predator BK.

CCB &lt;~~ home of amatuer billiard forensic specialists /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I went to cut open a golf ball one time to see what was in it, the thing had some kind of liquid that almost shot me in the eye /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rod
08-09-2004, 01:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]

I went to cut open a golf ball one time to see what was in it, the thing had some kind of liquid that almost shot me in the eye<hr /></blockquote>

I always wanted to know the length of rubber band in a wound golf ball. Never took the time though, I had fun just cutting through and watching them frizz up.

~~ rod, lots of rubber in there.

Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 03:43 PM
Wow Joey,

I did the same thing as a kid and it did just that. I thought it was a rubber band that hit me in the eye. Never forget that. Thanks for bringing up my worst fear again. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

C.C.

Ross
08-09-2004, 03:50 PM
Remember when Keith missed a shot last year and said to the crowd something like: "I musta hit the wrong poka dot." lol. There is something in Keith's delivery of lines that makes him hilarious.

Chris Cass
08-09-2004, 03:58 PM
Hi Ross,

No, I didn't remember that. What I do remember quite distinctly is when him and Parica were in the finals playing for third place. They were announcing the break speed of both him and Parica. They had said "Parica 17 something mph". Then, "Keith 19 mph". Keith says to the crowd, "He shoots 17 mph and makes 3 balls and I shoot 19 and can't make a ball".

The entire crowd was rolling. LOL Except, Jimbo. He was looking at the ring girls. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.

Ross
08-09-2004, 04:22 PM
I remember Keith playing Alcano (I think) at the Open and the score was something like 7-7, and Keith had a combo on the 9 sitting pretty much in the jaws of the pocket. Before he shoots, Keith says to Alcano, "Don't worry, this won't hurt for long." lol!

I imagine that is an old line, but it is still funny when Keith says it!

Chris Cass
08-10-2004, 04:17 PM
Thanks Woody,

You da Man!!!!!

C.C.

Rip
08-10-2004, 05:38 PM
CC,
I have a "pokey dot" cue ball. I remember reading somewhere that the tolerances were the same in every area, as the red circle Aramith. I cannot feel any difference between the red circle and the dotted cue ball but the pokey dot ball sure does look purdy spinnin' round and round and round and round and #$%#$%^&amp;&amp;.
That's as scientific as it gets for me...Fred! Where's Fred?
Regards,
Rip~~gets a thrill watching those dots spin!

Chris Cass
08-10-2004, 11:54 PM
Hi RIP,

You have no idea how good that sounds. LOL Nothing to sweat with whitey now. My love to the girls and my best to the wife.

Regards,

C.C.~~I swear he's like superman, he's always there when you need him. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rip
08-11-2004, 12:06 AM
You're too much CC!,
I tried wearing those Superman style tights and the chafing was un-freakin-bearable!
I'm convinced there's no difference in the way the two cb's play. The new Simonis and fresh rubber with humidity???? That another story, but you know the drill.
Regards,
Rip

SPetty
08-13-2004, 05:14 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Eric.:</font><hr>The "pokie dot" CB's ... are for sale thru Muellers if you want to buy one.<hr /></blockquote>I finally got an answer from Muellers. Their catalog was printed back when they thought they were going to get the cue balls from Aramith, but they do not sell the cue balls separately.

Chris Cass
08-14-2004, 01:30 AM
Thanks SPetty,

Not sweating it anymore. As long as it's normal in size and weight of the red circle I'm good to go.

Regards,

C.C.

Eric.
08-15-2004, 09:54 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr>I finally got an answer from Muellers. Their catalog was printed back when they thought they were going to get the cue balls from Aramith, but they do not sell the cue balls separately. <hr /></blockquote>

Thanks for the update, SPetty.


Eric

#### leonard
08-17-2004, 07:03 AM
Chris I played Irving Crane an exhibition at Wolferts Roost CC in Albany around 1970 and Albany Billiard Ball Co gave Irv and myself a cueball with our initals in it. They also asked us not to tell anyone where we got them, they didn't want to be overwhelmed with orders. They probably would still be in business if they did.

The fellow who picked up our garbage at the Golden Cue also picked up their garbage. He always wanted an idea for the 10 barrells of bad balls he picked up daily.####