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08-27-2004, 11:05 AM
You always here people talking about what everyone is rated…. But what is the rating system based on? What determines the difference between a four & a five and so on? How do you rate someone?

08-27-2004, 12:52 PM

People used to speak in terms of A, B, C & D players with an A being a little below a professional and a D being able to run a few balls. Now, what you are hearing is mostly APA and/or BCA ratings that are what the amateur leagues use to handicap different players. This is determined by formulas based on results against other players, their skill level, the score and even innings played and safeties played.

All that said,(in APA 9 ball) a 2 might be able to run a ball or two, a four can run two or three, a six is pretty consistent and will run a rack on occasion, an eight runs them pretty regularily and a nine (the top rating) should get out most of the time. I know people will say, "That's not right!" But this is just to give you an idea. I'm an eight, but I just can't seem to play well on small tables. My wife talked me into APA so she would have someone to drive her to matches! I don't mean to say I don't take some matched seriously but I just don't adjust well to nine ball being a ball count game and having to get 85 points when my opponent, no matter how poor a shooter, has to get 11.

We've moved now so maybe she'll forget bar table pool. I have not seen any leagues around here so I'm holding my breath. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


08-27-2004, 03:30 PM
I formed sort of the same opinion during the two years I played APA 8-ball.

I began to think of the numerical skill levels as representing the number of shots the player was likely to make on an open table, before an unforced error. I'm talking about 8-ball, where the earlier shots are easier than the endgame.


08-27-2004, 03:38 PM

I never thought of it that way but, thinking about it, it makes pretty good sense.

I'm heading to get my sweet little blond wife and take her out for a meal, a few beers and a few games of one pocket.


08-27-2004, 03:57 PM
Sounds like a plan. I have a little brunette girlfriend and we're going to dinner at a friend's house. He has a table, but I doubt we'll play OP.


08-28-2004, 08:18 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SpiderMan:</font><hr>...I began to think of the numerical skill levels as representing the number of shots the player was likely to make on an open table, before an unforced error.... <hr /></blockquote>

that's a good simple explananation.

and to elaborate just a bit for the benefit of the original poster,

<font color="red">APA 8-ball rating </font color> =

<font color="red">APA 2 &amp; 3 </font color> = D player

<font color="red">APA 4 &amp; 5 </font color> = C- to C+

<font color="red">APA 6 </font color> B player

<font color="red">APA 7 </font color> B+ and above


Tom Cincy has good explanation of ratings. Maybe he will see this thread

08-28-2004, 09:36 AM
9-Ball Tournament race to 7 (Dec.1997 "All About Pool" magazine, article
by Bob Cambell)
Handicap rankings
(pardon my poor para-phrasing)

D- Player
will not run a rack
average run is about 3 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
rarely plays a successful safe

could run one easy rack, but usually not
avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
mixed results when playing safe
inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a

Able to run 1 to 3 racks
avg. run is 5-7 balls
with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit
easily 2 out of 3 times
a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a
won game

will string 2 to 3 racks
avg. ball run, 7-9
with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.

average 8+ balls
string racks together more than once in a match
is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every
typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

Mr. Cambell continues this article with a handicap chart for the 4
levels of each type of player. The chart would look like this;
Lowest handicap is D4, then D3, then D2 and so on until the highest
would be OPEN 1
<hr /></blockquote>

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif