View Full Version : Using Any And All Balls As A CB?(BreakRak Related)

08-30-2004, 12:08 PM
The lazy thought just crossed my mind of whether there'd be any downside to taking all 16 balls down to the break region after setting up the BreakRak, and instead of chasing down the white ball all the time(it seems to pop inside thr BreakRak too often) I'd opt to use the colored balls for the next whack on the break tool. Assuming there is a uncluttered path to send the breaking ball into the head of the B-Rak, is there any reason for not using all of the balls as cue balls???sid

08-30-2004, 12:26 PM
Chalk is abrasive. The object balls will lose their shine. Wornout balls have more friction, so you will have to start adjusting for throw.

08-30-2004, 12:50 PM
If ya can afford a break-rack, how bout picking up another red-circle cb? j/k

Seems to me you might need the time to grab the cb for energy purposes....FWIW: I dont hit any of my balls with anything other than the cueball.

Chris Cass
08-30-2004, 01:13 PM
Hi Sid,

Too many down sides to that theory. The one ball and the cb are the fiorst two balls to lose their shine and get smaller. After that comes the rest of the 9 ball rack. 11-15 stay pretty good for long periods of time as far as size and shape. This comes from running the ph. I might suggest buying a cb and a one ball and swaping them out after a yr. Maybe even sooner.



08-30-2004, 01:24 PM
I thought the cue ball should stay in the middle of the table after the break, should be not much work to reach for it /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

as for using the other balls as cue balls, I think it should be OK, the size and weight should be the same. I am used to playing with terrible balls here in Slovakia, I do not thing that any ph I played in ever changed a set so I would not have any problems with the balls getting worn out.

One thing comes to my mind, but that perhaps concernes more the beginning players (as me). The object balls have sruff on them (numbers, stripes etc.). These things tend to make you think you should hit them and can take your focus from the center of the ball. That is a big problem while playng ordinary shots, not to say the break where any error is magnified by the force of the hit.

08-30-2004, 01:46 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Sid_Vicious:</font><hr>is there any reason for not using all of the balls as cue balls???sid <hr /></blockquote>
As mentioned before, it's not good for the object balls, but if you have an old set, why not? I happen to have an old set of "casino eight ball" balls, which are seven solid reds, seven solid yellows and an eight ball. The yellows and reds make good practice cue balls when I need a lot of them, and they can't be confused with normal object balls.

The "casino" sets were the standard at BCA tournaments for a few years in the 1980s, and are the same (except for size) as the sets used for English Eight Ball. I think as far as playing characteristics go, they are better than any of the numbered sets.

08-30-2004, 01:48 PM
What if I were to use the old set of balls that came with my table when I first got it instead of using the primary balls I bought myself? I don't care how those balls wear or if I ruin them totally over time.

I think you may have figured out that I'm interested in putting the least effort into my break practice, and no, it wouldn't be quite the chore to retrieve whitey if it squatted anywhere near the middle of the table like it's intended to do. Today, this ain't happening frequently enough for me, so I'm trying to invent a way to spoil myself with a lazier way to drill and drill and drill. Using all of the balls gives me such a liberty.

I have a total of 4 CBs. One is a red circle, one training ball with the lettering, and two standard balls which came with each boxed set of balls. I kind of think that unless the colored balls were some kind of a visual distraction or something, that they would be much more consistent than the assortment of the 4 white balls I currently own. I certainly don't mind buying more red circles and yet I would enjoy being frugal and using the old set of balls I got with the table if there is no a real disadvantage to the idea besides wear and rear on the balls themselves...sid

Bob, you read my mind. I just read your post after posting this one, so I decided to do a quick edit to acknowledge your same suggestion mentioned in the body of this post. Thanks, sv

08-30-2004, 02:11 PM
just came to my mind

the elimination of the pause between brakes if you do not have to retrieve the cue ball could lead to serious strain in your body especially if you practice the power break

but you would probably know if it is the case the next morning if you would be unable to wash your face because of sore muscles you never even knew existed /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Chris Cass
08-30-2004, 02:23 PM
Hi Sid,

I don't see anything wrong with it. If you've got aother set laying around? Why not use them? Besides, I think the weight would be the main factor, not the look. I think you could take about 6 of the original set and make yourself a coat hanger with them. Cool looking and serves a great purpose besides dressing up the game room. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif