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yegon
09-02-2004, 12:36 PM
I am thinking about getting a new cue case. Currently I have just a simple one that can hold one cue and chalk at most.

As I would like to buy one that lasts I'd like to ask around what should I consider carrying in it.

How many shafts?
How many butts?
What other equipment?
Towels?

also if you can point me to common problems, what should I check before buying?

RedHell
09-02-2004, 12:50 PM
Too bad you're just 2 days off a great offer Talisman did to the CCB members. They were giving us a 20% discount on their product until the 31st of aug.

They have one of the greatest case out there, and I'm sure you would have been satisfied.

To answer your question:

Currently, in a 2X4:
Break cue (2 shafts)
Playing cue (2 shafts)
One jump butt (fits my break cue shaft)
a few chalks
2 or 3 pens
a patch of leather for burnishing
a patch of worned off green pad
TipTik

I'm wainting for Tony (Talisman) to start distribution of his 3X5 before I make more room to carry more stuff /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

trailboss
09-02-2004, 01:22 PM
I currently carry a softcase, I am careful. I put in it the following: shooting glove, 1 chaulk, tip pick, white small towel (I want to see dirt and grime on it), 1 shooter, and 1 predetor break cue. I really could use a Golf bag!

9 Ball Girl
09-02-2004, 02:00 PM
Everyone has different things in their case, depending on each individual need and as you go along in your play, you'll see what's essential to you. I currently have a Joe Porper 2x4 case, but have just purchased a Tribal Talisman 2x4 case and I can't wait to utilize the teeny lip gloss pocket. Yup, that's what that teeny pocket is for. Lip Gloss.

Anyway, I currently carry:

2 butts
2 shafts
tapper
towel
bridge head
tip pik
q-claw

Chris Cass
09-02-2004, 02:29 PM
2X4 JJustis case. one 16" pocket.

two butts for playing cues.
three shafts, one jump other two are playing cue shafts, no break cue.
Pocket: jump butt with third piece, ear plugs, 2 pieces of Masters blue, leather bridge head, 2 replacement tips, one small piece of Gus Szamboti' T-shirt for good luck and to wipe my cue with. one or two small snickers candy bars for quick energy.(Holloween type size only)

On the handle: my lucky Mueller 8 ball key ring. sometimes my cue holder invention, and CCB key ring for tourneys.

I carry my burnishing paper for the shaft and 400 tip paper rougher in my wallet. With my cross from Ken since I've got it.

The pouch is what matters the most. That's if your going to carry a jump cue. You have to have somewhere to put the butt.

Regards,

C.C.

daviddjmp
09-02-2004, 03:20 PM
I have the black Talisman Tribal case containing:

Black Boar custom w/two shafts
Schon STL-7 backup w/one shaft
Two cubes of master blue chalk
Pack of Q-Smooth papers
Black Cloth napkin(for drying my hands)
Keller Adjustable Bridge Head
Microfiber towel(for after play cleaning of shaft)
Tip Tapper/Shaper

dr_billiards
09-02-2004, 03:38 PM
I have a 3 butt 5 shaft leather slimline case from silverfox company. I carry a ton of stuff in it it has a huge amount of pockets.
1.Madison Bob Griffin Sneaky pete w/ one shaft
2.Madison Bob Griffin custom w/ two shafts
3.Southwest cue w/ two shafts
4. 1st pocket kitchen scuff pad and masters blue chalk with my ccb pin on the outside of the pocket proudly displayed /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
5. 2nd pocket tip tapper, williards, tip pick
6. 3rd pocket leather pad,towel,deck of cards, chalk
7. 4th pocket scotchbrite pad and cue smooth papers
8. 5th pocket $20 in quarters
Doc B

Barbara
09-02-2004, 03:55 PM
Check this out Chris! I'm going to get me a Jack Justis case at the Open!! And you're welcome to join "The Buying Party" !!

But then again, you're excused for your matches. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Wooohooooo!!!!

Barbara ~~~also has a swatch of a G.S. t-shirt to wipe my B.S. cue down with... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rod
09-02-2004, 03:57 PM
Plan ahead like your doing. If you plan on buying a break cue, jump cue or jump break cue plan accordingly. A pocket large enough for a jump handle as mentioned. Consider another small pocket as well for a tip scuffer, peice of chalk, lipstick etc. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I carry a 3X6 Porper. For one it isn't much larger, if any, than a 2X4 then you have lots of room. I suppose I could carry a bunch of trinkets, but I don't. Just a Schön R7 with four shafts, one is snooker. 1 break cue, usually I just use it on a bar box. Last a Lucasi jump cue. I leave one slot open in case someone gives me a shaft that needs a tip or something.

So if you plan ahead now you won't have to buy another case anytime soon.

Rod

cuechick
09-02-2004, 07:52 PM
I like Porper cases, I would suggest that whatever case you get, that you get one that will allow you to put your cues in butt side down, so you can stand your cues up in your case. This comes in quite handy.

One reason I like Porper, is they are very nice people, I ordered my case while I was at the BCA in Vegas, direct from Joe and his wife, a few years ago, and forgot to ask for that feature, I called them and even though they had finished making my case, they took it apart and changed it at no charge!

http://www.porper.com/

tateuts
09-02-2004, 08:22 PM
I like a 2 X 4 with tube style interior and a pocket big enough for a jump cue. Even if you don't use a jump cue, the pocket can be used for a cue extension as well. I have a Longoni cue extension and it is fantastic.I like the tube style because the cue can be stored in either direction and nothing gets stuck.

Oh yeah, I like a little pouch on the outside of my case for a tip tapper/shaper tool - I use Willards.

My case is a Justis saddle leather.

Chris

Deeman2
09-02-2004, 08:37 PM
A twenty five year old Justis case (4x2). A shoen cue with two shafts. A jump cue with a beveled (bell shaped) phenolic tip, a Colt .45 Stainless Steel Commander's automatic, four extra clips, a tip tapper, a tip shaper, a U.S.Open Golf Towel, 6 pieces of blue Master's Chalk, a leather burnishing piece, two Valiums (10 mg.), little pins from about 20 countries (that keep falling off the case), a mill bastard 6 inch file, pad of powder, shaft wax, 1000, 3000 & 5000 grit sand paper, a metal from the German Pool League, my wife's roll of quarters.

Malice
09-02-2004, 09:55 PM
A guy who I used to play with carried a .22 pistol in his case. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Chris Cass
09-02-2004, 11:07 PM
That's fantastic Barbara,

Oh goody. I once talked to Jack about that and he said, he's never discounted a case. He puts the best into his cases and he's never, ever given a discount in price. He had told me he's done extra tooling or maybe added a tip taper for some. He told me he might concider doing a bit something extra for you a fellow ccber. I'll have to see him and call him on the river. hahahha

I know you'll be so happy. I just had Heide refurbish mine and I have it all tuned up for the Open. I feel you just can't get any better than Jack. He's a good man. Come to think of it. I bet he'd like to go fishing sometime with you and Pete. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~ doing cartwheels as he's shooting in the 9 ball. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hmmm, might have to talk about getting a new lid sometime soon. something in a BARRY. HAHAHAHAHA

Jimmy B
09-03-2004, 02:44 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> I feel you just can't get any better than Jack. He's a good man.
Regards,

<hr /></blockquote>

Jack is the best I am just saying a prayer for him that he makes the next 48 hours ok and still has a shop to build Barb's case, even if it's to small for me to fit in. Jack Justis is a class act, we need more like him and since there aren't we need to support the ones who are.

JB

MadisonBob
09-03-2004, 03:29 AM
rod i agree on the porper. i have a 12 butt 24 shaft i carry around that i keep all of my custom cues i build that are completed. it seems to keep the cues nice and you should see the guy,s faces when you walk in a pool room with that thing you can see the wow!on there face but they are nice cases.www.madisonbobs.com

Rich R.
09-03-2004, 03:56 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> I'm going to get me a Jack Justis case at the Open!! <hr /></blockquote>
Barbara, a little F.Y.I. to make sure you are prepared.
To the best of my knowledge, Jack doesn't take any plastic.
Bring a trunk full of cash or a checkbook. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Leviathan
09-03-2004, 06:26 AM
Hi, Chris: Just curious--do you use the eap plugs whenever you're playing, or just use them some of the time? I think I'm gonna start carrying a pair for use in extra noisy rooms.

Alan

catscradle
09-03-2004, 06:55 AM
I have a Whitten with a small and a large pocket and carry:
My playing cue, w/ 2 shafts.
A sneaky pete Dufferin for breaking, w/ 1 shaft.
A microfiber towel attached externally with a small bungie cord.
A few tip dressing tools.
2-3 chalks and magnetic, pocket chalk holder.
APA rules.
Bridgehead.
Several individually wrapped alcohol swipes (the kind they use to prep for an injection) to clean my cue and/or hands.
Leather burnisher.
Business cards.
Pen or pencil.
Loose change.
Extra key to my car (locked out once is enough).
A bunch of other junk I don't use or remember.

Chris Cass
09-03-2004, 07:00 AM
Oh Jimmy,

I forgot where he's out of. Man, I'm really worried about everyone in Fla. Mainly RJ and Steve. Now remembering Jack. This is tough.

Regards,

C.C.

Chris Cass
09-03-2004, 07:08 AM
Hi Duke,

I use them as needed. I use them when playing in loud pool rooms and some loud opponents. I hear everything but at a lower sound. The opponent that likes to run their mouth to me think I don't hear anything and that's a plus in shutting them up.

I will say that playing with them can be an experience. The hit and the sound of the hit is also minumized. This takes sometime getting used to. I find it not all that hard. They do come in handy and you should try them out sometime. They're cheap and they do the job intended. Focusing also becomes a little easier.

Regards,

C.C.~~I have the foam kind that swell while in your ears. Great for cold rooms too. Seems, the heat is retained in the body a bit more. Wierd I know but true. I've found this out during the cold winter mths in Germany out in the field.

tateuts
09-03-2004, 07:14 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman2:</font><hr> a Colt .45 Stainless Steel Commander's automatic, four extra clips, <hr /></blockquote>

They let you carry concealed weapons in Texas? Cool, I'm moving there...

Chris

Chris Cass
09-03-2004, 07:17 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman2:</font><hr> a Colt .45 Stainless Steel Commander's automatic, four extra clips, <hr /></blockquote>

They let you carry concealed weapons in Texas? Cool, I'm moving there...

Chris <hr /></blockquote>

Hi Chris,

I believe that in Texas they think of that as a toy. lol

C.C.

Barbara
09-03-2004, 07:42 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> Barbara, a little F.Y.I. to make sure you are prepared.
To the best of my knowledge, Jack doesn't take any plastic.
Bring a trunk full of cash or a checkbook. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Really Rich? He doesn't accept credit cards? It's cash only and full payment up front??

I would've never known. That could've been disappointing!!

Barbara

Rich R.
09-03-2004, 07:53 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr>Really Rich? He doesn't accept credit cards? It's cash only and full payment up front??

I would've never known. That could've been disappointing!!
<hr /></blockquote>
NO PLASTIC at all.
It caught me by surprise when I purchased my case, at VF, a couple of years ago. When I purchased one for Cathy, we were prepared, but his policy was still the same.

Last year, at the Open, his table was directly across from an ATM. I saw someone pull out a card and Jack and his wife just pointed to the ATM.

As I said, I believe he will take a check.

BTW, you are correct. If he doesn't have a case for you, with him, and you are placing an order, it is payment in full, when you place the order.
However, Jack is very good at delivering the goods. After ordering mine, I received it well before the expected date. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Barbara
09-03-2004, 08:17 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr>I bet he'd like to go fishing sometime with you and Pete. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif
<hr /></blockquote>

I don't do the fishing thing, CC. I don't feel the need to put a hole in a perfectly good fish mouth. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And then there's that bait stuff. Eww. Yuck.

Barbara

catscradle
09-03-2004, 08:27 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Oh Jimmy,

I forgot where he's out of. Man, I'm really worried about everyone in Fla. Mainly RJ and Steve. Now remembering Jack. This is tough.

Regards,

C.C. <hr /></blockquote>

From his website:

JACK JUSTIS
4031 NW 4TH STREET
COCONUT CREEK, FL 33066

Chris Cass
09-03-2004, 10:33 AM
Hi Barbara,

Jack will take a MO or a check. I sent him a MO myself and he was 100% attentive in every email I've ever sent him. Your good and he's not going to disapoint you in the least. He's number one in customer satifaction and also in custome service. Many companies should treat their clients like he does. IMHO Just look at the testomonials. I'm one also.

Regards,

C.C.

Barbara
09-03-2004, 10:51 AM
Well I'm pretty excited! And I have no idea of what I want, either.

Barbara

Rod
09-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Oh, the suitcase. LOL I've seen them. I think Porper makes as good of case as anyone. Ya they may not be hand tooled leather and flashy but I really don't need to make a statement when I go somewhere. You must have a long arm from carrying that case full of cues though.

Rod

haywood
09-03-2004, 11:13 AM
What I did up in Valley Forge was to sit and talk over every detail that I wanted with Jack and I made a list of the features I wanted. When I got home, I sent off a money order, along with a completed order blank from his website. About 3 or 4 weeks later I had my customized case. Jack is very easy to deal with and hasn't disappointed anyone that I know of, including me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Deeman2
09-03-2004, 12:17 PM
Chris,

We don't think of it as a toy, exactly, but like needed clothing. Never know when you have to put a horse, a Harley or a terrorist out of it's misery...

Have a great Open Pal. I'm pulling for you as we all are, not if you win or lose but just to play and have fun for us CCB'ers. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Deeman

Jimmy B
09-03-2004, 12:51 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr>
Really Rich? He doesn't accept credit cards? It's cash only and full payment up front??

I would've never known. That could've been disappointing!!

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>

First off I figure you for some custom work, I know you at least need to have your name on the case if not you're logo or something that screams BARB's case. So that being said I think you'll have some time from the order to delivery, also if you say you know JimBo you get automatic credit. One bit of advice, get to him early and order, he normally gets 10-20 orders at shows and then fills them in order, so the difference between ordering the first day till the last could only be 6 days but it may equal 4-6 weeks. BTW I talked to him yesterday and he didn't mention he was going to the Open are you sure he'll be there??

JB

Chris Cass
09-03-2004, 01:12 PM
He was at the Midwest Expo and I'm sure he'll attend again this coming up Expo. JAT

C.C.~~not to many vendors at the Open. Mostly shirt sales, Capone cues, Sledgehammer cues, Jacoby cues, a cue repairer and a few others but not to many. Oh, Joe Salezar too.

Regards,

C.C.

Barbara
09-03-2004, 02:29 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jimmy B:</font><hr>
First off I figure you for some custom work, I know you at least need to have your name on the case if not you're logo or something that screams BARB's case. So that being said I think you'll have some time from the order to delivery, also if you say you know JimBo you get automatic credit. One bit of advice, get to him early and order, he normally gets 10-20 orders at shows and then fills them in order, so the difference between ordering the first day till the last could only be 6 days but it may equal 4-6 weeks. BTW I talked to him yesterday and he didn't mention he was going to the Open are you sure he'll be there??

JB <hr /></blockquote>

Wow, I just assumed he'd be there. I gues I'll have to call him and verify.

Thanks for the info, you Pookie Wookie you! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Barbara

tn8ball
09-03-2004, 08:16 PM
What's essential to me apparently is LOTS OF USELESS CRAP. I cleaned out my case (Justis 3X5) before BCA Vegas this year and it weighed significantly less! I removed numerous patches, yearly memberships, schedules, pens, a calculator (how the heck did that get in there?), a phone number that I have no earthly idea who it is, leftover pipe tobacco (I don't smoke, still thinking about how that got there) and various cubes of chalk.

I left in there: 2 butts, 4 shafts, 1 jump butt, weighted cue holder, talk, glove, QWiz, sandpaper shaper, tip pik, prescription bottle for holding quarters (you should read that, it's hilarious), ibuprofen, and a small bottle of shaft cleaner.

With all that crap one would think I'd be shooting better. . .

Jimmy B
09-04-2004, 02:22 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tn8ball:</font><hr> What's essential to me apparently is LOTS OF USELESS CRAP. I cleaned out my case (Justis 3X5) <hr /></blockquote>

I have never heard of such an animal, are you sure it's a Justis?? And do you have pictures??

JB

Rich R.
09-04-2004, 04:47 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> Wow, I just assumed he'd be there. I gues I'll have to call him and verify. <hr /></blockquote>
I was also assuming he would be at the Open. He has been there the last two years. I'm sure a lot depends on these damn hurricanes. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Pelican
09-04-2004, 07:59 AM
"what do you carry around? What other equipment? "

VIAGRA

Jimmy B
09-04-2004, 11:12 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> I was also assuming he would be at the Open. He has been there the last two years. I'm sure a lot depends on these damn hurricanes. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Ok, Update. Jack will not be at the US Open or the MidWest expo, sorry folks :-( But it's real easy to order just what you want from his site, the hard part is to know just what you want. I also don't think Jack was there last year, but i am getting old, and senile.
JB

Chris Cass
09-04-2004, 12:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jimmy B:</font><hr> I also don't think Jack was there last year, but i am getting old, and senile.
JB <hr /></blockquote>

Old? HAHAHAHAHAHA Dude, I'm like twice your age. Your far from old Jimmy. What's up? You not going to the Open? I know your going to DCC this yr. Is that what that's all about? I know vacation time is sacred and we'll miss you but hope it had nothing to do with our missunderstanding awhile back? I know you support me and I know you mean well.

Regards,

C.C.~~what's Fred going to do alone? Besides, get into trouble. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jimmy B
09-04-2004, 02:52 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> I know your going to DCC this yr. Is that what that's all about? I know vacation time is sacred and we'll miss you but hope it had nothing to do with our missunderstanding awhile back? C.C.~~what's Fred going to do alone? Besides, get into trouble. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>
I don't think Fred is going either, it's just a matter of only so much vaca time and I have a trip planned for beginning of Oct to Utah, and I'll be going to NYC for the pro event Oct 3rd, that with BCA in May and VF in March and DCC in Jan, I need to hit lotto just to pay for my pool trips and that don't count the ones I need to take to keep others in my life happy (wink wink) As far as our thing goes I feel it's long behind us and I hope you really do know I support you even though I'm still not betting on you to win the whole thing ;-)Misunderstandings happen all the time, friends explain and move on, I think that's what we did. I am sure you guys will have plenty of fun without me, maybe next year, but I like to spread myself out and try different things, last year was APA,Midwest expo and US Open, this year is BCA &amp; DCC. Some day I'll be able to say I did it all :-D and met some great friends along the way. It really is all about the journey.

JB

tn8ball
09-04-2004, 03:57 PM
No, actually I'm not sure it's a Justis, that's what I was told when I bought it (online). It has a patch of earth on the front with a 9 ball and says "Stratford" underneath. I was told it was from the Stratford line of Justis. I really didn't care either way, it's a solid case and I needed more than my 2X2 could handle. I can take a pic and send it to you if you want.

Jimmy B
09-04-2004, 07:04 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tn8ball:</font><hr> No, actually I'm not sure it's a Justis, that's what I was told when I bought it (online). It has a patch of earth on the front with a 9 ball and says "Stratford" underneath. I was told it was from the Stratford line of Justis. I really didn't care either way, it's a solid case and I needed more than my 2X2 could handle. I can take a pic and send it to you if you want. <hr /></blockquote>

You were lied to, but as you said you are happy with the case so what's in a name??? Jack has never made a 3x5, he makes a few 3x6 and a few 1x2 as well as a few envelope style cases, but no 3x5's. Your case is a Stratford, if I were you I'd be mad at the person who tried to mislead you, yet stay happy with the case. Thanks for the info.

JB

Jimmy B
09-04-2004, 07:06 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jimmy B:</font><hr>, he makes a few 3x6 and a few 1x2 as well as a few envelope style cases, but no 3x5's.
JB <hr /></blockquote>

I meant to add that 90% of the cases he makes are 2x4's.

JB

MadisonBob
09-05-2004, 09:30 PM
rod i think it,s about 2 inch,s longer.you would not believe the weight of that thing when it is loaded. i try not to carry it inless i have to. i have another case it,s a instroke 3butt 6 shaft it,s a pretty nice case all leather but it also weighs a ton being all leather but it keeps the cues really nice also.i can,t complain about it i got it free i think the one i got run,s around 4 hundred. seen one of those big 12 butt 24 shaft cases with wheels on it when i went down to derby city torney but it was,nt a porper case. next thing you know they,ll have a motor on them. ha ha. madison bob /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Fred Agnir
09-06-2004, 01:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> I was also assuming he would be at the Open. He has been there the last two years. <hr /></blockquote>It seems to me I would have remembered Jack being there last year.

Fred

Rich R.
09-07-2004, 03:08 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Fred Agnir:</font><hr> <hr /></blockquote>It seems to me I would have remembered Jack being there last year. <hr /></blockquote>
Fred, I thought he came in, late in the week, after all the nasty weather, but I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time, my memory failed me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Deeman2
09-07-2004, 06:21 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote MadisonBob:</font><hr> rod i think it,s about 2 inch,s longer.you would not believe the weight of that thing when it is loaded. i try not to carry it inless i have to.

Hey, folks,

Anyone who knows me will know that you let your wife, or domestic partner as life might have it, carry your case. Now, before someone screams at me, when I was married to a woman who shot scratch golf, I carried her Ping bag everywhere and even cleaned it up and polished her clubs after her caddy got through with them. I have to admit, she is much happier when we are going to a bar and she can carry my light case, but putting her in charge if it means no one will touch or steal it. Plus, she has a weapon when she gets mad at me for dogging one.

I love some of the new cases but am just used to the one I carry. I would go to a 3x6 or so but would need a golf cart for her to carry it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Deeman

#### leonard
09-07-2004, 06:42 AM
My one backer would always tell my other backer, when he thought the poolroom we were entering looked dangerous and he thought they might have guns in there.

What are you worried about Ralph, they gotta pull em he would say in his toughest voice. That always calmed Ralph down.####

Rich R.
09-07-2004, 06:48 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman2:</font><hr> Anyone who knows me will know that you let your wife, or domestic partner as life might have it, carry your case. <hr /></blockquote>
Deeman, although my wife does not carry my case, because of the weight, when she is with me, she is kind enough to watch over my 3x6 JJ case, with all of its goodies. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

#### leonard
09-07-2004, 06:49 AM
God that brought back memories of a great time in my life. Wow that is 35 years ago.

We had plenty of laughs, it might be time for a sitcom. Every road trip was a laugh a minute except when shooting pool that was a laugh every two minutes.####