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UWPoolGod
09-07-2004, 10:22 AM
I do not have speakers at work so I couldn't listen to any sound (if there was any) but could watch the pics and read the quotes. Crazy day. Lot of propaganda..but what doesn't, one way or another.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html#Main

Barbara
09-07-2004, 10:26 AM
Sorry Todd, I can't get to view the web page with all the Spyware/Adware popups. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Barbara

Qtec
09-07-2004, 10:28 AM
If it wasnt the Boeing that crashed into the pentagon, what happened to the Boeing thats missing?

Not saying you are wrong or anything but I think its the most logical question.

Q

landshark77
09-07-2004, 10:56 AM
I have to agree with Qtec on this one. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif Although this film does offer some intersting questions. As far as the question can a plane break tru reinforced concrete, my answer is hello, a plane brought down the entire WTC.

Sid_Vicious
09-07-2004, 11:27 AM
"hello, a plane brought down the entire WTC."

I'm fairly sure that the exterior of the WTC was like punching through a paperbag in comparison to a magnified, reinforced structure such as the Pentagon, and the reason the WTC towers fell was due to it's center pole support(it's particular design choice) meltdown from the jet fuel. There wasn't anything to amount to as far as the outer skin on those buildings, whereas the Pentagon was built strategically for just this kind of thing. Makes this an apples and oranges issue real quick..sid

landshark77
09-07-2004, 11:33 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Sid_Vicious:</font><hr>
I'm fairly sure that the exterior of the WTC was like punching through a paperbag in comparison to a magnified, reinforced structure such as the Pentagon, and the reason the WTC towers fell was due to it's center pole support(it's particular design choice) meltdown from the jet fuel. There wasn't anything to amount to as far as the outer skin on those buildings, whereas the Pentagon was built strategically for just this kind of thing. Makes this an apples and oranges issue real quick..sid <hr /></blockquote>

Eh, I guess you're right. I was just thinking that the WTC would be pretty darn strudy too because of the size. I still say this theory is not true. Elvis is dead. We walked on the moon. Courtney did not kill Kurt. Tupac is dead. And aliens are out there, just not among us.

PQQLK9
09-07-2004, 11:57 AM
<hr /></blockquote>Elvis is dead.<hr /></blockquote>
says who? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

highsea
09-07-2004, 12:38 PM
This conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. The flight recorders were recovered at the site, remains from all but one of the passengers have been recovered and identified.

Many eyewitnesses saw the plane approach and impact, and pieces of the plane were recovered and also photographed on the crash site. You can see one such picture here:

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/010911-N-6157F-001.jpg

The west side of the building (where the impact occurred) was undergoing renovation and hardening. It was not completed at the time of the crash. The destruction penetrated 150 feet into the structure to the "C" ring. The plane nearly disintegrated on impact, and no large sections survived, but seats, a section of the tail, and other pieces did survive.

The 9/11 commission reconstructed the radar tracking from the FAA and Norad. The planes transponder had been disabled, but the flight controllers still saw the plane on radar, they just could not identify it at the time.

In addition, the BBC aired a video that clearly showed the plane in 2 frames just before it hit.

According to a CNN article (http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/pentagon.terrorism/) published the day after the attack, Michael Tamillow, a battalion chief of the Fairfax County, Virginia Fire Department, reported that parts of the Boeing 757 fuselage had indeed been recovered from the wreckage by FBI investigators (the same team that later found the black boxes). "No large pieces apparently survived," the article said.

There is no doubt that American Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.

This conspiracy first surfaced in the "Hunt the Boeing" website. The culprit is the Thierry Meyssan, well-known leftist radical and president of the Voltaire Network (http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/) , a controversial site devoted to "the fight for freedom and secularity." His son, RaphaŽl Meyssan, is credited as the Webmaster of both the Voltaire Network and Utopian Asylum (http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.asile.org) , which, uncoincidentally, hosts "Hunt the Boeing"

-CM

UWPoolGod
09-07-2004, 01:48 PM
I wasn't amking any kind of statement, just thought I'd share this thing I found. Like I said I couldn't hear any audio without speakers. I have no doubt that the plane was in there. Just another vision that conspiracy theorists throw out there while eliminating key proofs against it.

UWPoolGod
09-07-2004, 01:50 PM
Come on highsea- you know the government has pieces of previous plane crashes in a warehoues somewhere and dropped off that matching piece far away from the building. No way that piece could have travelled that far after hitting the building... /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

...did you catch my sarcasm there? LOL /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif