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SPetty
10-28-2004, 08:03 AM
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa041027_wz_cc.2d8277bb.html

Swap the vote

The presidential race in Texas, of course, doesn't appear to be much of a contest. Polls show President Bush with a sizable lead over Senator Kerry in the Lone Star State.

If the surveys are correct, all the Texas electoral votes will go to the former Texas governor.

That's why the daily news coverage in the final days of the campaign shows Bush and Kerry soliciting votes in the handful of so-called "swing states," where the election could go either way.

But what if you—in Texas—could influence the outcome in a swing state? That's the goal of a Web site called VotePair.org (http://www.votepair.org).

It provides a mechanism for Kerry voters in Texas and other states considered safe for George Bush to trade their votes with backers of Ralph Nader or other progressive candidates in the swing states.

So a Kerry vote, for instance, could be cast in Florida in exchange for a Nader vote in Texas.

So far, VotePair says it has matched up almost 1,700 pairs of voters; not a lot in the big picture, perhaps, but a potential difference-maker in states like Florida, where Bush won by 537 votes in 2000; or in New Mexico, where the final margin was just 316 votes four years ago.

I wasn't able to identify any Web sites aimed at securing swing state votes for the president. VotePair is backed by people who support "progressive" third-party candidates like Ralph Nader, who are ideologically more aligned with Democrats.

You may be wondering whether vote swapping is legal. VotePair says there are no laws prohibiting the practice (http://www.votepair.org/wearelegal.php), and if there were they would be challenged by constitutional lawyers. "Political compromise, slate-making, coalition-formation, legislative logrolling, and vote-trading are the very essence of democratic politics," the organization explains on its Web site.

Deeman2
10-28-2004, 11:23 AM
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Swap the vote

The presidential race in Texas, of course, doesn't appear to be much of a contest. Polls show President Bush with a sizable lead over Senator Kerry in the Lone Star State.

If the surveys are correct, all the Texas electoral votes will go to the former Texas governor.

That's why the daily news coverage in the final days of the campaign shows Bush and Kerry soliciting votes in the handful of so-called "swing states," where the election could go either way.

But what if you—in Texas—could influence the outcome in a swing state? That's the goal of a Web site called VotePair.org (http://www.votepair.org).

It provides a mechanism for Kerry voters in Texas and other states considered safe for George Bush to trade their votes with backers of Ralph Nader or other progressive candidates in the swing states.

So a Kerry vote, for instance, could be cast in Florida in exchange for a Nader vote in Texas.

So far, VotePair says it has matched up almost 1,700 pairs of voters; not a lot in the big picture, perhaps, but a potential difference-maker in states like Florida, where Bush won by 537 votes in 2000; or in New Mexico, where the final margin was just 316 votes four years ago.

I wasn't able to identify any Web sites aimed at securing swing state votes for the president. VotePair is backed by people who support "progressive" third-party candidates like Ralph Nader, who are ideologically more aligned with Democrats.

You may be wondering whether vote swapping is legal. VotePair says there are no laws prohibiting the practice (http://www.votepair.org/wearelegal.php), and if there were they would be challenged by constitutional lawyers. "Political compromise, slate-making, coalition-formation, legislative logrolling, and vote-trading are the very essence of democratic politics," the organization explains on its Web site.
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Spetty:

This is, of course, a vast right wing conspiracy wherein we are getting Florida voters who are saying they are for Nader to pretend they are voting for Kerry in their home state but will cast their vote for Bush therefore doubling the effect of their vote. We call this lemonade or, more appropriately, Kerryaiding. Future stratigies include the dump and the double dump where we trade two (2) minority pandered votes for one (1) undecided in blue states and the "walking stick" or "jelly roll" where we just lock the doors on the poles seven hours early, before the disenfranchised get up on election day.

I hope you now have a better picture of this. Ich bin eine Arschlock, Ya? /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Deeman