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hondo
11-09-2004, 07:37 AM
My memory goes back to Eisenhauer V. Stevenson.
In this last election over half the country
hated Kerry and many hated Bush. I cannot remember
that happening before.
Many (me included) hated LBJ during his 1st full term.
Many hated Nixon and Clinton during their 2nd terms.
No massive factions hated both candidates as they
were running.
Think back to Bush SR. v. Dukakis. There was no hate.
Many didn't like Bush; more felt Dukakis wasn't
Presidential material.
What was different this time? I've never seen the
country more polarized.
The only time I didn't vote was Nixon v. Humphrey.
I truly disliked both candidates. Humphrey was
your real flip flopper.
I not trying to censor answers but I would really
appreciate it if people that lived these times
responded to this one only.

Wally_in_Cincy
11-09-2004, 08:51 AM
I have no idea why the Dems hate Bush. I really don't.

Maybe because he is confident and decisive? Like Reagan.

hondo
11-09-2004, 09:28 AM
A simplistic answer to a complicated post. I guess
that's all I should have expected.


<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> I have no idea why the Dems hate Bush. I really don't.

Maybe because he is confident and decisive? Like Reagan. <hr /></blockquote>

SnakebyteXX
11-09-2004, 09:40 AM
[ QUOTE ]
My memory goes back to Eisenhauer V. Stevenson. <hr /></blockquote>

I was in the second grade at the time. I remember that although none of us had a clue about what a 'President' was or any of the issues in that election we used to sing a lttle ditty on the playground to the tune of 'Whistle while you work':

Whistle while you work
Stevenson's a jerk
Eisenhauer's got the power
Whistle while you work


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I think some degree of acrimony during Presidential elections is an American tradition.

Snake

Deeman2
11-09-2004, 09:48 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote hondo:</font><hr> My memory goes back to Eisenhauer V. Stevenson.
In this last election over half the country
hated Kerry and many hated Bush. I cannot remember
that happening before.
Many (me included) hated LBJ during his 1st full term.
Many hated Nixon and Clinton during their 2nd terms.
No massive factions hated both candidates as they
were running.
Think back to Bush SR. v. Dukakis. There was no hate.
Many didn't like Bush; more felt Dukakis wasn't
Presidential material.
What was different this time? I've never seen the
country more polarized.
The only time I didn't vote was Nixon v. Humphrey.
I truly disliked both candidates. Humphrey was
your real flip flopper.
I not trying to censor answers but I would really
appreciate it if people that lived these times
responded to this one only. <hr /></blockquote>

Hondo,

I Think we are just not as polite a society now and we also don't take many at their word, perhaps a leftover from the Nixon and Johnson years. I'm 52 but remember the Kennedy-Nixon times well. It was certainly more formal, the electorate was not as informed as now and anything the government said, we pretty well took as true. We were building fall out shelters, people didn't question autthority and minorities were just beginning to speak.

Civel discussion was more civil but less open as well.

Deeman

Popcorn
11-09-2004, 10:00 AM
I prefer it the way it is now, hostility and all. Kennedy could never be elected today, and his election that was full of fraud would have been exposed. White house reporters just printed what they were told and the insiders were free to basically do what they wanted. Today's politics scares many potentials, because if there is a skeleton in the closet, it's coming out. I am fan of truth, even it may not be what you want to hear. I never understood those that are blindly partisan. I guess most just have an agenda and the right or wrong of something does not matter.

Wally_in_Cincy
11-09-2004, 10:11 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote hondo:</font><hr> A simplistic answer to a complicated post. I guess
that's all I should have expected.
<hr /></blockquote>

Once again I do not meet hondo's high standards for posting. My apologies.

hondo
11-09-2004, 11:50 AM
I'm curious, pc, how old are you if I may ask?
Most guys my age hate the vicious advertising
and reporting that incites the voter to hate the other
side.

quote=Popcorn] I prefer it the way it is now, hostility and all. Kennedy could never be elected today, and his election that was full of fraud would have been exposed. White house reporters just printed what they were told and the insiders were free to basically do what they wanted. Today's politics scares many potentials, because if there is a skeleton in the closet, it's coming out. I am fan of truth, even it may not be what you want to hear. I never understood those that are blindly partisan. I guess most just have an agenda and the right or wrong of something does not matter. <hr /></blockquote>

hondo
11-09-2004, 11:54 AM
I didn't hate Reagan; I didn't like him because he
was a union buster who did nothing to stop our
businesses from going overseas. Did you hate
Clinton because he was confident and self- assured?


<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> I have no idea why the Dems hate Bush. I really don't.

Maybe because he is confident and decisive? Like Reagan. <hr /></blockquote>

hondo
11-09-2004, 11:56 AM
I had a little button that said " I like Ike".


quote=SnakebyteXX] &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
My memory goes back to Eisenhauer V. Stevenson. <hr /></blockquote>

I was in the second grade at the time. I remember that although none of us had a clue about what a 'President' was or any of the issues in that election we used to sing a lttle ditty on the playground to the tune of 'Whistle while you work':

Whistle while you work
Stevenson's a jerk
Eisenhauer's got the power
Whistle while you work


------------------------------------

I think some degree of acrimony during Presidential elections is an American tradition.

Snake
<hr /></blockquote>

wolfdancer
11-09-2004, 12:06 PM
"Kennedy could never be elected today" Probably not, at age 87...... but then again, if'n he was running against "the great communicater, GWB....

Wally_in_Cincy
11-09-2004, 12:47 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote hondo:</font><hr> I didn't hate Reagan; I didn't like him because he
was a union buster who did nothing to stop our
businesses from going overseas. Did you hate
Clinton because he was confident and self- assured?
<hr /></blockquote>

I did not hate Clinton. I did not think he was good for the country because he was a liar and he sold our interests out for campaign contributions.

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