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nhp
11-24-2004, 03:41 AM
Well, after S. Fats showed the article about the Bush administration wanting to run psychological tests on our kids in school, and possibly put them on drugs, most of you cons showed that you are against it, and I respect that. Yuo have shown that you don't blindly follow Dubya in everything he does, and I think that shows alot about most of you. I just hate it when both cons and libs alike will blindly support their politicians no matter WHAT, I think that is a sign of weak-minded individuals, and is a huge problem in our country today, as so many right and left wingers do just that. So, my hat is off to you.

Gayle in MD
11-24-2004, 03:53 AM
I agree. If Bush does anything right, I will be unbiased enough to applaud him for it, LOL.

Do you think if this information had come out before the election, it would have changed it any? Interesting that 2/3 of the campaign contributions from the Pharmaceutical Industry went to Bush and the Republicans, and they will be the ones to make the most money off this insanity.

If they don't change this, parents in this country should be up in arms over it, I hope!

I think Bush should be the first one to take the test, LOL.

Gayle in Md....Eventhough Seacaucus hates me I'm proud of him for his post..... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

nAz
11-24-2004, 08:04 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr>

I think Bush should be the first one to take the test, LOL.
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Bwahahahaaaa /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r
11-24-2004, 12:50 PM
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I just hate it when both cons and libs alike will blindly support their politicians no matter WHAT, I think that is a sign of weak-minded individuals, and is a huge problem in our country today, as so many right and left wingers do just that. So, my hat is off to you. <hr /></blockquote> Thanks. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif Actually, I think Bush is a big spender and does not know how to control the US checkbook. I cannot for the life of me figure out why Bush cannot find one single special interest group to quit funding. There are thousands of them, just pick one and show us you (speaking to W) are willing to reduce the size of government by that little bit.

eg8r

SnakebyteXX
11-24-2004, 01:12 PM
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Actually, I think Bush is a big spender and does not know how to control the US checkbook. <hr /></blockquote>

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of difference between 'tax and spend' Democrats and 'borrow and spend' Republicans. One dips into our pockets now and the other simply waits until later to get the job done.

One way or another the piper will have to be paid. The money still comes out of our pockets (or in the case of the spiralling National Debt - our children's and grandchildren's pockets).

I wonder what it is about deferred debt that makes spending money we can't afford okay?

Snake

SecaucusFats
11-24-2004, 02:52 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote nhp:</font><hr> Well, after S. Fats showed the article about the Bush administration wanting to run psychological tests on our kids in school, and possibly put them on drugs, most of you cons showed that you are against it, and I respect that. Yuo have shown that you don't blindly follow Dubya in everything he does, and I think that shows alot about most of you. I just hate it when both cons and libs alike will blindly support their politicians no matter WHAT, I think that is a sign of weak-minded individuals, and is a huge problem in our country today, as so many right and left wingers do just that. So, my hat is off to you. <hr /></blockquote>

Thanks nhp.

I would like to take this opportunity to offer up my sincere apologies to the libs here (particularly Gayle and Crawdaddio) for the caustic manner in which I responded to some of their posts, and I resolve right here and now, that if disagree with anyone's opinion I will respond in a more gentlemanly fashion.

I think that we all want what we feel is best for our nation as a whole. Let's put aside labels such as liberal or conservative and view each other as fellow Americans instead. Let us always respect each other's right to dissent.

SF

crawdaddio
11-24-2004, 03:43 PM
No harm done. We all have our opinions and our right to shout 'em from the rooftops (or keyboards). It will be a sad day when we no longer have this right, so take advantage while you can /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Peace
~DC

Gayle in MD
11-25-2004, 01:04 AM
Happy thanksgiving.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

PQQLK9
11-25-2004, 06:54 AM
"I think that we all want what we feel is best for our nation as a whole. Let's put aside labels such as liberal or conservative and view each other as fellow Americans instead. Let us always respect each other's right to dissent".

SF

Tap Tap Tap

Happy Thanksgiving

silverbullet
11-25-2004, 08:35 PM
yeppers. Respect goes a long way. Just fellow americans. Sounds great to me.

Laura

SecaucusFats
11-26-2004, 11:27 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr> &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
Actually, I think Bush is a big spender and does not know how to control the US checkbook. <hr /></blockquote>

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of difference between 'tax and spend' Democrats and 'borrow and spend' Republicans. One dips into our pockets now and the other simply waits until later to get the job done.

One way or another the piper will have to be paid. The money still comes out of our pockets (or in the case of the spiralling National Debt - our children's and grandchildren's pockets).

I wonder what it is about deferred debt that makes spending money we can't afford okay?

Snake
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“I repeat, this is not a partisan issue. It's a matter of making government exercise the same kind of financial responsibility that every American family does.” -- (President Ronald Reagan in 1982, discussing a proposed balanced budget amendment.)

Spouse, sons and daughters, distant relatives, assorted hangers on, mooching brothers in law:

Our family is called to great responsibilities. And we are rising to meet them.

As we gather tonight, bills for food, education, and home entertainment are piling up. Our credit cards are being rejected all over town in a one-household war on poverty. Third, fourth, and fifth mortgages are being actively ignored, and even our once-patient creditors from Ross Dress for Less have informed us that we are no longer welcome in the halls of that august institution. By compounding these gargantuan debts with yet more debt, we are securing prosperity for our future, and planting the seeds from which mighty oaks of familial contentment may someday grow.

Tonight, we may all reflect with swelling pride and humble vigor on the great works of compassion and reform that skeptics had thought needed to be paid for. You are raising the standards of our hearth and home and the reputation of our sons, daughters, nieces and nephews. Our cigarette boat furrows the waters of our local marina, while my Hummer, painted a tasteful taxicab yellow and parked discreetly at my brother's place two towns over, has escaped our enemies' repeated efforts at repossession. Meanwhile, our in-ground swimming pool, while unfinished again this year, excites in our neighbors naked envy and a determination to do better in their own lives.

I know that some people, even in this very chamber, question whether piling up such luxury items on heaps of balances due is the wisest course for our family. They note that I have never actually flown in my private jet, and that having a professional-grade kitchen remodeling was a piece of needless frippery, since we eat out every evening. To them I say that Wolfgang Puck himself would be awed by our new sun-dried tomato storage facility. A few years ago we were making do with a George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine; today, our obese and elderly family members can choose from a full menu of deftly prepared, Atkins-approved dishes.

We have faced serious challenges together—and now we face a choice. We can go on spending like drunken sailors and fudging our accounts—or we can turn back to the dangerous delusion that balanced checkbooks and fiscal responsibility will earn us the easy living to which we are accustomed. We can recognize that bill collectors and repo men are motivated only by jealousy and hatred of our way of life— or we can turn back to the divisive policies of belt-tightening and penny-wisdom.

There are others who object that my latest family budget is dangerously incomplete, that it defers hard decisions and does not include the most expensive items we pay for each month. To these nattering nincompoops of nay saying, I reply with pride: Says me! You shall not crucify our elderly relatives, our knock-kneed great-uncles and diapered grandfolks, upon a cross of mortgage payments. Our expenses for housing, medical coverage, property taxes, education, credit cards, insurance, even food and clothing, are indeed off the budget—I have placed them securely in a lockbox beyond the prying eyes and sticky fingers of financial planners.

Yet our budget is sound and savory, including as it does not only our entire budget for toiletries but several of the high-ticket newspapers my idiot nephew reads to me, in stentorian tones, each morning on our tastefully appointed veranda. By the year 2007, our fiscal austerity package will have transitioned nearly 50 percent of our multivitamin purchases to generic labels.

Some carping complainers of caterwauling would have it that this was not the appropriate year to purchase costly time-shares in a swanky mud spa outside Carson City. Fie on't, I say! For these very spas were a favorite getaway spot for President William McKinley himself—and the sight of our 25th chief executive luxuriating Adam-naked among the healthful minerals of the Silver State was considered impressive and delightful by all Americans, man and woman alike. Moreover, our purchases come with a generous package of in-network vacation trading credits, ensuring hours of salubrious recreation for the wrinkly parasites who people our family's more advanced generations.

Finally, there are the dithering dorkheads of defeatism, who object that our budget is based on unrealistic estimates of future revenues. To them I say, if Powerball is so unrealistic, why are millions of Americans playing?

In laying out this budget, I have followed the example of our ancestor of sainted memory, who proved that deficits don't matter. But we face new challenges, and we must rise to them. Even as our younger male children have excelled in sporting performance and muscular density, they have fallen behind in deportment and testicular development. Tonight I call on each of you to contribute whatever disposable income you have to a fund that will keep my sons off steroids for all time. In the linen closet you'll find a Danish cookie tin with a masking tape label reading "Say No Fund." Please give generously.

I know that some of you fear I am merely running up tabs that I, and my aging cohorts will enjoy, while sticking my children's children with the bill.

I can only point to a note I recently received from my eight-year-old daughter Ashley, who asks, "Other kids all got new clothes for school this year. What can I do to at least get two square meals a day?" Well, Ashley, you're already doing it. You've made us all so proud; and when you get off that nasty little keester of yours and bring in some first-prize money from the Junior Miss Pageant, you'll be helping out the family too. Godspeed!

Good night, and may the Almighty shed his grace on ourselves and our posterity.

SF