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Ken
05-24-2002, 06:12 AM
Is anyone else getting e mails that have no visible text? I have gotten these from two posters. The subject doesn't always make sense and although there is no text there is a very large portion that gets saved and appears to execute some instructions. I have gotten three from one poster and one from another and then others from unknown senders.

I think these messages are sending similar messages to others since I got a notification that an e mail could not be received by someone that I did not send a message to. I got rid of my address book and moved all my sent and received mail and these things don't appear to be doing anything now. I now delete all messages with no text or an unknown sender. Unfortunately my e mail account opens one message everytime it receives any mail.

There may be some java code in these e mails causing more messages to be sent. I'm just wondering if anyone else is having this happen or if anyone knows what it might be. I don't seem to have the option of telling the program not to open e mail but I would have opened many of these anyway.
KenCT

stickman
05-24-2002, 07:01 AM
It definately sounds like some sort of virus, but I wouldn't know which one. If you don't have an anti-virus program, I would get one.

Here is a free site that will do an online virus scan. <a target="_blank" href=http://housecall.antivirus.com/>http://housecall.antivirus.com/</a>

Tom_In_Cincy
05-24-2002, 09:09 AM
Ken,
If you are using an e-mail provider like Yahoo, or MSN, or Netscape,

These providers might be striping the attachments prior to you being able to read them. This maybe part of the anti-virus protection these providers have on their own systems.

JimS
05-24-2002, 09:47 AM
I've gotten several emails from people I don't know, not posters. Large content, 120k or more. I don't open them and I block the sender.

Scott Lee
05-24-2002, 09:54 AM
Ken...I have also been getting these "blank" emails! They seem to be over 150K in size, but there are no downloads, or any text messages. Some were purportedly from people I know, and others I have no idea. I delete them all.

Scott Lee

Ken
05-24-2002, 10:16 AM
Those are the ones. I got a message that an e mail I sent to what I thought was your address bounced back as undeliverable (I didn't purposely send anything). It was just after I had started recieving them from Mike Howerton and Chris in NC. I'm still getting about one a day from Chris.

If you got one from kewgardens that was my system sending it but I don't know if it got through since it came back to me, maybe because you refused to accept it. I have removed all names from my address book and moved all saved e mails. Unfortunately the Juno e-mail system won't permit me to delete without opening them first but they seem to be deleting now without any going out. I've also gotten a couple from Drudge and some I don't recognize.

My anti virus program has found nothing. I did the house call virus scan from PC-Cillin that was recommended earlier and it came back clean.
KenCT

stickman
05-24-2002, 10:43 AM
That's very strange. Maybe one of our computer techies can help. Anytime you have e-mails going out that you didn't send, I suspect a virus. Maybe this is something new that the AV programs don't yet have updated in the definition files.

I have another computer that my kids use. It is giving me fits. I suspect a virus, but my Norton AV 2002 doesn't find anything. I have to reload the software almost daily. It does the same thing every time. It looses the internet connection. All the network settings disappear. The anti-virus is uninstalled, and I can't remember all the rest, but it is exactly the same set of occurances each time. This is very frustrating. I would think if it were a virus, I would eliminate it by formatting the hard drive and reloading the software. I guess I'll take it to the computer shop and see what they can figure out. /ccboard/images/icons/frown.gif

05-24-2002, 09:21 PM
Hi Guys!
Don't kill the messenger, but your virus programs are only as good as the updates you get. If a virus is new enough to not have a definition from the software manufacturer of your particular program, or (like my kid) you haven't done your updates recently, you might as well go without a raincoat. Hackers take great joy in creating new viruses to zap you despite your anti-virus software, and SOMEBODY has to get hit before the manufacturer can define and block it. I'm not saying that's what happened to you, just FYI.

05-24-2002, 10:10 PM
BTW, of those who are getting the Emails, did you read the 'check out our magic trick' thread? Or any other by an unregistered user that you might have in common? Did you go to a link that was posted here? Or send each other EMails? Just curious.

05-25-2002, 02:10 AM
I think about last Sat &amp; Sun I was briefly kicked off aol. I would get a message someone had logged on from a different or remote location. But I was able to quickly get back on. Then I started getting a lot of emails telling me cancel or to stop sending porn emails. I didn't know what was happening then. But when I was kicked off aol about 100 to 200 pornagrapy emails would be sent listing me as the sender. Then on about Mon I was again kicked off aol. I could not get back on. Some kind of virus had taken over my account and changed my password. That was what aol was telling me. And at first I couldn't get connected to aol for several hours. That was because a few months ago we changed our home phone number due to so many calls with stuff like me winning trips etc. All sorts of junk calls that I think were because of me clicking on sites with advertisers on the computer. So it was not the same home phone listed on aol. And I had paid for a year's aol in advance on a credit card. But due to my lack of work I closed all my charges. I had to finally go through my old statements giving an aol superviser the last four digits of my charges until one matched their records. And only then were they able to change my password and I was again able to get back on aol. But no one I know recieved any ot the porn emails. My son recently switched to Windows XP or whatever is the newest one. Before that I had Norton anti virus and it automatically would bring up a message each day telling me to update. Now I still update Norton anti virus each day. And no virus was ever found on it. I tried loading another free virus program from aol. But I wasn't able to see any virus with that either. But everything has been working ok since then. I did purchase Norton anti virus years ago. And each year I pay a fee to receive the updates. I know very little about computers.

I did not even go to that magic post you are talking about. But I have gone to most of the other sites mentioned in posts here. For example someone mentioned one about a billiard channel. But I usually don't download anything. And I have been to the two sites with member photos. But that was before I had these email problems.

05-25-2002, 12:37 PM
Thanks Eddie. I was just curious. I don't actually have a computer, I use my boyfriend's. If ANYTHING happens to it, it's always my fault, so I'm a little paranoid.

Scott Lee
05-25-2002, 12:43 PM
Ken...Yes, I did get the email from you as kewgardens, but it was blank also! Weird! LOL I just deleted it with the rest!

Scott

Cueless Joey
05-25-2002, 01:56 PM
This might be too techie but this is how I live terror-free of viruses.
I use Deep Freeze Pro ( Deepfreezeusa.com is their site).
I "freeze" my C drive, where Windows is. Anything that is altered in my C drive is erased and restored to original settings as soon as I reboot. I keep a second hard drive to store data or you can allow up 1.5 gigs of "unfrozen" logical drive in the C drive.
I do have Norton AV but anti-virus these days are not enough. Our Norton Corporate Edition AV at work updates every 15 MINUTES. I doubt if we can keep up with that at our home computers.
A "worm" checks your personal address book and forward viruses to the people in your address book. You could be spreading virus and you might not even know it. That's why I don't use Outlook Express.

05-26-2002, 10:12 AM
Ah, thanks Joey. We all needed someone who knew what he was talking about on this one!

JimS
05-28-2002, 10:36 AM
Today I received a 128k email with the address given the same as Cincy Tom's. Before I opened it I sent a private message to Tom here on the ccb to check it out. Sure enough it was not sent by Tom. I think I'll delete my email address from the personal page.

Ken
05-28-2002, 01:24 PM
I also got one from the cincytom314 address yesterday. My address book has been empty for about a week. The message gets displayed automatically by Juno mail but it doesn't seem to do anything and I just delete them.

I don't think this thing is getting addresses from the CCB listing since I took mine off of there over a month ago. I did get three of these messages from Chris in NC so I wonder if Tom's address was there too. I also got one from AZBilliards the first day they started to come in so it's hard to tell where it started. Others then came from other senders that have nothing to do with the CCB.
KenCT

05-28-2002, 03:01 PM
I was getting a lot of blank e-mails with attachments. I never tried to open the attachments for fear of a virus. It has not happened in the past two weeks. I do not post my e-mail address since the last time I did I received a social disease from one of the posters.

Tom_In_Cincy
05-28-2002, 05:16 PM
eversince these blank e-mails have been popping up.. I changed my CCB email to this format

cincytom314-remove-@yahoo.com

For the email to work, the -remove- must be deleted.

I also have added a blank email address (all 00000@000.000)at the begining and the end of my address books. This was a little trick that I picked up off of Norton's website.