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01-14-2005, 08:27 PM
9.0 on ungrateful scale-Thanks for the help, but now get out,Indonesian veep tells U.S. soldiers
New York Daily News ^ | 1/13/05 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

The Indonesian government yesterday showed its appreciation to U.S. soldiers who have been risking their lives helping tsunami victims by ordering them to get out of the country by the end of March.

"Three months are enough," Vice President Jusuf Kalla told the official Antara news agency. "In fact, the sooner [they leave] the better."

Kalla's government also forced the Abraham Lincoln, from which Navy pilots have flown dozens of food supply missions to the hard-hit Aceh Province, to steam out of Indonesian waters because they refused to let U.S. pilots fly training missions in their air space.

The Indonesians also refused to let the Marines coming ashore rebuild roads, establish a base camp or carry arms.

Lynn Pascoe, the U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, reacted to Kalla's ingratitude by declaring that American troops will help as long as they were needed and "not a minute later."

But in Washington, White House spokesman Scott McClellan demanded "further clarification from Indonesia about what this means."

"We hope that the government of Indonesia and the military in Indonesia will continue the strong support they have provided to the international relief efforts so far," he said.

Although most Indonesians have expressed thanks for U.S. help, nationalist politicians in the world's most populous Muslim country have been grumbling about "American interlopers."

Indonesia's new president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, is a former general in a country that has been under martial law for much of its recent history.

Always wary of America, Indonesia reluctantly allowed U.S. soldiers in when it became clear it could not deal with the aftermath of the Dec. 26 tsunami on its own.

Yudhoyono's government also moved to reassert control over wave-walloped Aceh by ordering aid workers and journalists to declare their travel plans - or face expulsion.

"It is important to note that the government would be placed in a very difficult position if any foreigner who came to Aceh to assist in the aid effort was harmed through the acts of irresponsible parties," the government said in a statement.

The Indonesian government was referring to the rebels who have largely stayed out of the way as the international rescue missions have been mounted.

With News Wire Services

Originally published on January 13, 2005

I think we should pull out completely and let the ungrateful Muslim s.o.b.'s pound salt up their keisters. /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif


01-15-2005, 01:03 AM
Talk about ungratude. Then again maybe they are just worrying about americans overstaying their welcome and maybe helping out in other ways that we don't see. It says that there are rebels still fighting over there. maybe they are just afraid of the US getting involved, like we do in all other countries matters..we, the usa, have a habit of doing that sometimes.............anyways...glad to get them home again anyway.......................mike

01-15-2005, 04:29 AM
We should build about 5,000 miniature helicopters, the size of basketballs, each equipped with a replica of a human hand made out of silicone or latex, fly them to Indonesia once we withdraw, and have the helicopters go around slapping government officials in the face. That would be sweet.

01-15-2005, 08:24 AM
Just another example of a government that creates hardship and misery for their own people.

I wonder if the folks that are being fed from those helicopters and being med-evaced want the soldiers to leave.

01-15-2005, 12:55 PM
We can only do what we are permitted to do. All of these countries are sensitive to an American military presence, regardless of our intentions. The rules apply to NGO's as well.

Indonesia has some problems, especially in Aceh, and they don't want NGO's making a fuss over the situation with the rebels, and they want to prevent the rebels from having outside contact and creating a political embarrassment for the gov't.

India has a similar situation wrt the A&N's. No NGO's or foreigners are permitted to the islands, and India has said they will handle the situation themselves. They have Naval bases there, and want to maintain security.

The bottom line is that these are soverign countries, and are entitled to set the rules as they see fit. I'm sure the US would have said the same thing if Russia were to offer us assistance at Pensacola Air Base after the Florida hurricanes. i.e. Thanks, but no thanks.