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cueball1950
02-06-2005, 09:08 PM
I just want everybodies opinion on the UPA's latest. There is a Joss Tour event,(15,000) added at turning stone casino on the 19th and 20th of february. Mike Zuglan the promoter of the Joss tour published his schedule somewhere around August of last year, so it has beeb out quite awhile for all to see.
Now enter this new north american tour with an event scheduled to start on the 20th of february. Whoever heard of a tournament starting on a sunday, other than a players meeting. Mike over at az has stated in reply to a thread i posted over there that the promoter wanted to change the dates but that the sanctioning body stepped in and said no. guess who the sanctioning body is. The UPA, why would the UPA do this to Mike Zuglan? Is this in retaliation for Mike not letting the UPA sanction any of mike's events. They tried this in the past, remember mike would not let them sanction 1 of his events and charlie williams threatened to hold the capital city classic at the same time. What does the UPA have against mike Zuglan and the Joss tour. this is not the first time that the UPA has scheduled events at the same time as mike's big events. Is it that they are so succesful (the joss tour) or is it that the UPA still wants to control all pool. I wish someone would come on here from the UPA and explain it to me and all of us before this turns into another bashing. and to top it off, if a player get knocked out of the Joss event they can't go play in Pittsburgh cuz there is a mandatory players meeting on Saturday.......go figure. I just sent a letter by email to the promoter asking for answers....................mike

JimS
02-06-2005, 09:19 PM
The easy answer is to not play for Charlie's group. Drop out of the UPA in response to this kind of childish divisive crap.

RailbirdJAM
02-06-2005, 10:26 PM
Hi, Mike. I called Jim Dawson, the producer of the Hilton-sponsored NAOT, regarding the $20,000-added second leg in Pittsburgh, beginning Saturday, February 19th, through the 24th, Thursday.

About six players who are competing in the $15,000-added Joss Turning Stone Casino tournament, occurring Friday, February 18th, through Sunday, February 20th, are planning on going to the UPA-sanctioned NAOT Pittsburgh event. Ryan McCreesh and Mike Davis are two that I know of who plan on attending both. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Jim Dawson said that Earl Strickland, Thorsten Hohmann, Kid Delicious, Johnny Archer, and Niels Feijen are some of the top guns who have committed to be in Pittsburgh. /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

The players meeting is on a Saturday evening, and actual play is supposed to begin on Sunday. As with all UPA-sanctioned tournaments, the chart will be seeded with the highest-ranked UPA touring pros. Jim Dawson said if Joss Tour players can get there by 10:00 p.m. on Sunday, there will be special arranagements made for them. It's a 6-hour drive (I think) from Turning Stone to Pittsburgh. He said that the person to contact would be: "Scott Smith, the tournament director."

Keith and I are going to the Joss event, and we look forward to seeing you. There's a poker tournament on Friday night, February 18th, at 8:00 p.m. We're hoping to be there earlier that day. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that the first stop of the NAOT tour which occurred in Destin, Florida, and attracted 43 UPA touring pros, was ONE OF ONLY TWO UPA-sanctioned events on the Hilton-sponsored NAOT. And I guess this Pittsburgh NAOT event is the last UPA-sanctioned one.

The year-end NAOT event in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, will be a $50,000-added season finale, nothing to sneeze at. AND as far as I know, last I heard, it will not be UPA-santioned. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It's is quite curious that there are scheduling conflicts between Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour, in particular, and the UPA Tour. /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

As far as I'm concerned, I think the Joss Tour is one of the best things going. It provides a <font color="red">level playing field</font color>, with no seeds, to players of all caliber. Everyone, men and women, are welcome, and you don't have to jump a bunch of hurdles to compete, not to mention that it's economical for employed pool players because they occur on the weekends. Mike Zuglan is superb, and ALL PLAYERS ARE TREATED EQUAL. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

RailbirdJAM