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SnakebyteXX
02-11-2005, 07:02 AM
Penis size

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Penis size is of great concern to many men. Some consider having a large penis a mark of masculinity; others are concerned that their penis is too small to satisfy their sexual partners. These insecurities have led to the creation of a whole industry devoted to penis enlargement.

Data

Regarding the length of the adult fully erect penis (measured along the top of the penis from the belly to the tip), several studies have been performed. Those studies that relied on self-measurement consistently reported a higher average than those that had staff take the measurements.

* The Kinsey Reports found in 1948 an average length of 6.20 inches (15.25 cm) with a standard deviation of .77 inches (1.96 cm). (Self-measurement)

* An UCSF study by Wessells et.al. published in 1996 found an average of 5.1 inches (13.0 cm). (Measured by staff)

* A study by a Brazilian urologist found an average of 5.7 inches (14.5 cm). (Measured by staff)

* A German study in 1996 also reported an average of 5.7 inches (14.5 cm). (Measured by staff)

The flaccid penis is measured when fully stretched, from the belly to the tip, excluding the foreskin. The length of a stretched flaccid penis closely conforms to erect length.

Average stretched penile length at birth is about 4 cm, and 90% of newborn boys will be between 2.4 and 5.5 cm. Limited growth of the penis occurs between birth and 5 years of age, but very little occurs between 5 years and the onset of puberty. The average size at the beginning of puberty is 6 cm with adult size reached about 5 years later. W.A. Schonfeld published a penis growth curve in 1943.

Regarding the length of the adult flaccid fully stretched penis:

* Lee et.al. reported in 1980 an average of 13.3 cm with a standard deviation of 1.6 cm

* Sutherland et al reported in 1996 an average of 12.4 cm (5.2 inches) (std. dev. 2.7cm or about 1 inch) in Caucasian peoples, an average of 14.6 cm (5.7 inches) in blacks, and an average of 10.6 cm (4.2 inches) in Oriental peoples.

The length of the unstretched flaccid penis is no guide to the size of the erect penis; indeed, some men with small flaccid penes may have larger erections than men with larger flaccid penes. When a man with a relatively large flaccid penis has a normal or below average length penis when fully aroused, or when a man with a relatively small flaccid penis has a normal or above average length penis when fully aroused, they are known by the slang terms as "showers" and "growers" (or, "peek-a-boo penises") respectively.

Environmental conditions play a role in the size of a relaxed flaccid penis, in particular cool temperatures. One general response to cold the body experiences is the decreased circulation of blood to appendages. As the size of the penis very much relies on blood supply, this results in a decreased flaccid size. The slang term "shrinkage" is sometimes used to describe this phenomenon. As humorist Garrison Keillor once said, "At forty degrees below zero, all men are indeed equal."
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Micropenis

A penis whose stretched flaccid length is more than approximately 2.5 standard deviations below average size for the age group but otherwise formed normally is referred to in a medical context as a micropenis. Some of the identifiable causes are deficiency of pituitary growth hormone and/or gonadotropins, mild degrees of androgen insensitivity, a variety of genetic syndromes, and HOX9 gene variations. Some types of micropenis can be improved with growth hormone or testosterone treatment in early childhood. Penis-enlargement self-treatments are not effective for this condition.

A news post on New Scientist dated Dec 6, 2004 (http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996761) reads "A new surgical procedure has allowed men with abnormally short penises to enjoy a full sex life and urinate standing up, some for the first time. Tiny "micro-penises" have been enlarged to normal size without losing any erogenous sensation, say UK doctors."
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Perceptions

Men tend to misjudge the size of their penis relative to that of other men they have seen naked, simply because of the foreshortening effect obtained from always looking down at the penis from above. In addition, as Paul Fussell noted in his memoirs, men who are overweight or have large stomachs may fail to allow for the partial concealment of the penis by their abdominal region and thicker skin at the base of the penis.

A survey by sexologists showed that many men who believed that their penis was of inadequate size actually had a normal-sized penis. Most sexologists believe that worries about penis size come from some other source of anxiety or perceived inadequacy.

A Dutch study found in 2002 that about 20-30% of women consider the size of a penis to be important.
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Penis enlargement

Some men dissatisfied for some reason with their penis size seek to enlarge their penis. See penis enlargement for a discussion of the methods used.
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Myths and legends

In some cultures, mass hysteria involving the believed removal or shrinking of the penis has been observed. See penis panic for a detailed discussion.

Another myth is that shoe size is correlated to penis size. This myth does not hold up under statistical analysis.
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Race and penis size

The question of race and penis size is controversial, much like race and intelligence and has not been definitively established. The only reliable penis-size studies commonly quoted in the literature are the Kinsey study, the UCSF study, and an Italian study, none of which even attempted to correlate size with race. There is an ongoing government study in India, as well, commissioned with the goal of helping reduce the high condom failure rate there. This study is not likely to answer the question either. There have been many other studies with claims of varying rigor—for example, the LifeStyles condoms study—but they are generally flawed by selection bias.

Frantz Fanon covers this subject in some detail in Black Skin, White Masks, 1952, where he tends towards the view that the supposed positive correlation between large penises and African ancestry is a myth, a conclusion that he backs up with statistics. On the other hand, J. Philippe Rushton has published statistics claiming otherwise (Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective, 1995).

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_size)

hondo
02-11-2005, 08:33 AM
Statistics are fun. Without meaning to be racist:
Rufus- 12 in.
John Henry-11 in.
Bill-5 in.
Carl-5 in.
Tad-6in.
Irving-4 in.
Average size-7.6 in.

dtomasi
02-11-2005, 09:58 AM
Hondo,

Self-measurement or verified by "staff"? /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

SpiderMan
02-11-2005, 10:05 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr> Those studies that relied on self-measurement consistently reported a higher average than those that had staff take the measurements.<hr /></blockquote>

Depends on who "staff" is, and her skills at measurement optimization /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan

Deeman2
02-11-2005, 10:10 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr> Penis size

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Penis size is of great concern to many men. Some consider having a large penis a mark of masculinity; others are concerned that their penis is too small to satisfy their sexual partners. These insecurities have led to the creation of a whole industry devoted to penis enlargement.

Data

Regarding the length of the adult fully erect penis (measured along the top of the penis from the belly to the tip), several studies have been performed. Those studies that relied on self-measurement consistently reported a higher average than those that had staff take the measurements.

* The Kinsey Reports found in 1948 an average length of 6.20 inches (15.25 cm) with a standard deviation of .77 inches (1.96 cm). (Self-measurement)

* An UCSF study by Wessells et.al. published in 1996 found an average of 5.1 inches (13.0 cm). (Measured by staff) <font color="blue">What a crappy occupation! </font color>

* A study by a Brazilian urologist found an average of 5.7 inches (14.5 cm). (Measured by staff)

* A German study in 1996 also reported an average of 5.7 inches (14.5 cm). (Measured by staff) <font color="blue">Example of the deflated Euro... </font color>

The flaccid penis is measured when fully stretched, from the belly to the tip, excluding the foreskin. The length of a stretched flaccid penis closely conforms to erect length. <font color="blue"> Ouch! I think I just hurt myself trying to make the national average! </font color>

Average stretched penile length at birth is about 4 cm, and 90% of newborn boys will be between 2.4 and 5.5 cm. Limited growth of the penis occurs between birth and 5 years of age, but very little occurs between 5 years and the onset of puberty. The average size at the beginning of puberty is 6 cm with adult size reached about 5 years later. W.A. Schonfeld published a penis growth curve in 1943.

Regarding the length of the adult flaccid fully stretched penis:

* Lee et.al. reported in 1980 an average of 13.3 cm with a standard deviation of 1.6 cm

* Sutherland et al reported in 1996 an average of 12.4 cm (5.2 inches) (std. dev. 2.7cm or about 1 inch) in Caucasian peoples, an average of 14.6 cm (5.7 inches) in blacks, and an average of 10.6 cm (4.2 inches) in Oriental peoples.

The length of the unstretched flaccid penis is no guide to the size of the erect penis; indeed, some men with small flaccid penes may have larger erections than men with larger flaccid penes. <font color="blue"> Praise Heaven! </font color> When a man with a relatively large flaccid penis has a normal or below average length penis when fully aroused, or when a man with a relatively small flaccid penis has a normal or above average length penis when fully aroused, they are known by the slang terms as "showers" and "growers" (or, "peek-a-boo penises") respectively.

Environmental conditions play a role in the size of a relaxed flaccid penis, in particular cool temperatures. One general response to cold the body experiences is the decreased circulation of blood to appendages. As the size of the penis very much relies on blood supply, this results in a decreased flaccid size. The slang term "shrinkage" is sometimes used to describe this phenomenon. <font color="blue"> Don't get political, Bush did not do this. </font color> As humorist Garrison Keillor once said, "At forty degrees below zero, all men are indeed equal." <font color="blue"> Tell that to John Holmes, oh. he's dead. </font color>
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Micropenis

A penis whose stretched flaccid length is more than approximately 2.5 standard deviations below average size for the age group but otherwise formed normally is referred to in a medical context as a micropenis. Some of the identifiable causes are deficiency of pituitary growth hormone and/or gonadotropins, mild degrees of androgen insensitivity, a variety of genetic syndromes, and HOX9 gene variations. Some types of micropenis can be improved with growth hormone or testosterone treatment in early childhood. Penis-enlargement self-treatments are not effective for this condition. <font color="blue">Enzite is not a real product that works??????????? /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif </font color>

A news post on New Scientist dated Dec 6, 2004 (http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996761) reads "A new surgical procedure has allowed men with abnormally short penises to enjoy a full sex life and urinate standing up, some for the first time. Tiny "micro-penises" have been enlarged to normal size without losing any erogenous sensation, say UK doctors."
[edit]

Perceptions

Men tend to misjudge the size of their penis relative to that of other men they have seen naked, simply because of the foreshortening effect obtained from always looking down at the penis from above. In addition, as Paul Fussell noted in his memoirs, men who are overweight or have large stomachs may fail to allow for the partial concealment of the penis by their abdominal region and thicker skin at the base of the penis. <font color="blue"> Is this supposed to make us feel better? </font color>

A survey by sexologists showed that many men who believed that their penis was of inadequate size actually had a normal-sized penis. Most sexologists believe that worries about penis size come from some other source of anxiety or perceived inadequacy.

A Dutch study found in 2002 that about 20-30% of women consider the size of a penis to be important. <font color="blue">Now we know why Qtek wants to immigrate to the U.S.! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif</font color>
[edit]

Penis enlargement

Some men dissatisfied for some reason with their penis size seek to enlarge their penis. See penis enlargement for a discussion of the methods used.
[edit]

Myths and legends

In some cultures, mass hysteria involving the believed removal or shrinking of the penis has been observed. See penis panic for a detailed discussion.

Another myth is that shoe size is correlated to penis size. This myth does not hold up under statistical analysis.
[edit]

Race and penis size

The question of race and penis size is controversial, much like race and intelligence and has not been definitively established. The only reliable penis-size studies commonly quoted in the literature are the Kinsey study, the UCSF study, and an Italian study, none of which even attempted to correlate size with race. There is an ongoing government study in India, as well, commissioned with the goal of helping reduce the high condom failure rate there. This study is not likely to answer the question either. There have been many other studies with claims of varying rigor—for example, the LifeStyles condoms study—but they are generally flawed by selection bias.

Frantz Fanon covers this subject in some detail in Black Skin, White Masks, 1952, where he tends towards the view that the supposed positive correlation between large penises and African ancestry is a myth, a conclusion that he backs up with statistics. On the other hand, J. Philippe Rushton has published statistics claiming otherwise (Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective, 1995). <font color="blue">I bet he got a nice long grant to do this study... </font color>

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_size) <hr /></blockquote>

wolfdancer
02-11-2005, 10:40 AM
"everything you wanted to know about the male organ, but were afraid to ask"
It's nice to know that I'm holding my own, as regards to the national avg.
From your stats......it seems that 70% of the wimmenfolk in the Netherlands....DO care
And in regards to the members of the male species that are, as Grady Matthews says in his book, "Gifted"...and screw it up fer the rest of us underprivileged....remember:
"Deus Dat Incrementum"
Latin for God Gives the Increase.....which is the motto of
the "Worshipful Company of Fruiterers", a livery company in merry old England...which I found by hitting the random site button in Wikepedia....

Stretch
02-11-2005, 11:31 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SpiderMan:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr> Those studies that relied on self-measurement consistently reported a higher average than those that had staff take the measurements.<hr /></blockquote>

Depends on who "staff" is, and her skills at measurement optimization /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan <hr /></blockquote>

Fluffer! Fluffer! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif St. ~~sometimes stretched so far i don't have enough skin left to blink! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif~~

DickLeonard
02-11-2005, 12:32 PM
This subject reminds me of the retirement system for Navy men. You could measure the longest part on our body from point A to B and you would receive a thousand dollars an inch. A captain measured from right finger tip to the toes and received 79,000.

The old chief said he wanted from his penis to his testacles. They all said he was foolish but he wouldn't listen. The Dr put the tape on his penis and couldn't find his testacles. He said where are your testacles he said in VietNam.####

SpiderMan
02-11-2005, 12:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Stretch:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote SpiderMan:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr> Those studies that relied on self-measurement consistently reported a higher average than those that had staff take the measurements.<hr /></blockquote>

Depends on who "staff" is, and her skills at measurement optimization /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan <hr /></blockquote>

Fluffer! Fluffer! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif St. ~~sometimes stretched so far i don't have enough skin left to blink! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif~~ <hr /></blockquote>

Yeah, my girlfriend always told me fantastic stories that I couldn't verify because I passed out from not enough blood to run my brain at the same time /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan

Chopstick
02-11-2005, 02:35 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> This subject reminds me of the retirement system for Navy men. You could measure the longest part on our body from point A to B and you would receive a thousand dollars an inch. A captain measured from right finger tip to the toes and received 79,000.

The old chief said he wanted from his penis to his testacles. They all said he was foolish but he wouldn't listen. The Dr put the tape on his penis and couldn't find his testacles. He said where are your testacles he said in VietNam.#### <hr /></blockquote>


LOL good one ####. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Stretch
02-11-2005, 03:37 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chopstick:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> This subject reminds me of the retirement system for Navy men. You could measure the longest part on our body from point A to B and you would receive a thousand dollars an inch. A captain measured from right finger tip to the toes and received 79,000.

The old chief said he wanted from his penis to his testacles. They all said he was foolish but he wouldn't listen. The Dr put the tape on his penis and couldn't find his testacles. He said where are your testacles he said in VietNam.#### <hr /></blockquote>


LOL good one ####. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I heard one today i just gotta pass on...

This 80 year old man goes to his Doctor for a routine checkup. Like most of us he hates submitting himelf to exams and does nothing but complain the whole time. "i don't know why i'm here, if feel great and i'm as healthy as a horse". He rants on "As a matter of fact my girlfriend who is only in her 20's has no complaints and she is now 6 months pregnant! What do you think of that!"

"Well" say's the doctor. "Let me tell YOU a little story...."

I knew this senior much like yourself. He was a little senile and half blind but he still loved to go hunting every day and walk his old trapline. On this morning though he made the mistake of grabing his cane instead of his rifle. It wasn't long before he came upon a beaver. So up goes the cane as if to shoot. BANG! BANG! two shots rang out and the beaver was dead. So! said the doctor to the old man, what do you make of that?

The old guy said. " HUMF! i think someone else pumped two shots into that beaver". The Doctor said "my point exactly!!" /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif St.

wolfdancer
02-11-2005, 07:33 PM
"Penis size is of great concern to many men."
For years, I've been ashamed to use public urinals, afraid the others would laugh at my undersized apendage.....BUT NOW
thanks to today's article on Actor Tom Sizemore, I am sending away for the "Whizzenator"...and "supersize" that order please!

Sizemore????

PQQLK9
02-11-2005, 09:57 PM
There's the story where two guys are pissing off (opposite sides of) a bridge. To impress the other, one guy says "this water's cold". Not to be outdone, the other says "Yea, and it's deep too !" /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
02-14-2005, 07:20 AM
I tell you what creeps me out. When you're at a public urinal other guys always look at your dick. My sis-in-law is a sociologist and she said there have been studies done on that.

and To all you South Carolina fans... "Go C0cks !!"

SpiderMan
02-14-2005, 08:31 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote PQQLK9:</font><hr> There's the story where two guys are pissing off (opposite sides of) a bridge. To impress the other, one guy says "this water's cold". Not to be outdone, the other says "Yea, and it's deep too !" /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Then the first one comes back with "yeah, and the bottom's muddy!".

SpiderMan

Deeman2
02-14-2005, 08:47 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> I tell you what creeps me out. When you're at a public urinal other guys always look at your dick. My sis-in-law is a sociologist and she said there have been studies done on that. <font color="blue">

Wally,

Ya gotta start visiting a better class of restrooms. </font color>

and To all you South Carolina fans... "Go C0cks !!" <hr /></blockquote>

Rich R.
02-14-2005, 09:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> I tell you what creeps me out. When you're at a public urinal other guys always look at your dick. My sis-in-law is a sociologist and she said there have been studies done on that. <hr /></blockquote>
Wally, ask your sis-in-law how big the government grant was, to pay for someone to hang around a mens room and count those who peeked, and those who didn't. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
02-14-2005, 11:38 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> Wally, ask your sis-in-law how big the government grant was, to pay for someone to hang around a mens room and count those who peeked, and those who didn't. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif <hr /></blockquote>

LOL /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

That would be a rough gig. Even if I did get grant money I would pass on that study /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

DickLeonard
02-15-2005, 07:39 AM
I know it would have had to be done in Texas because they get 3 dollars back for every dollar they send to Washington.
####

SpiderMan
02-15-2005, 10:07 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> I tell you what creeps me out. When you're at a public urinal other guys always look at your dick. My sis-in-law is a sociologist and she said there have been studies done on that. <hr /></blockquote>
Wally, ask your sis-in-law how big the government grant was, to pay for someone to hang around a mens room and count those who peeked, and those who didn't. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Probably got priests and truck drivers to do it for free /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan