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Elz
02-15-2005, 05:54 PM
I've been practicing left and right english. I've noticed that the angle has to change in order to get your shot in.

My question is how much of an angle and on wath side to give it.

Does left english need a left increase on your angle?
Or is this not even an issue?

MrLucky
02-15-2005, 07:42 PM
When applying any left or right english the cue will always not only spin or "throw" the object ball to the opposite side but will also if the cue makes contact with a rail it will take a much different path than normal ! the only way to learn how much this will effect the object ball is to practice practice and practice some more in a controlled shot ! in other words using the same speed ! the same amount of spin and on the smae table until you master it since all 3 variables will affect the shot! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Rod
02-15-2005, 08:41 PM
Your question of what english depends on how you want the c/b or object ball to react. There is no real answer unless we know what your trying to do. I sugest you do a little reading first then ask some questions. Have a look at Bob's site -- SF Billiards (http://www.sfbilliards.com/misc.htm) or have a look at DR dave's site for some video. Dr Dave (http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/)

In the end, speed, spin, distance, cue angle, squirt, swerve and table conditions/equipment all have a say in where you aim.

Rod

pooltchr
02-15-2005, 08:58 PM
Dr. Dave's book "The Illustrated Guide to Pool and Billiards" also gets into this topic if you really want to understand what happens when you use side spin.
Steve

Snyder1
02-15-2005, 09:36 PM
It just takes practice ... after a while, you won't think about it &amp; will just adjust for the squirt unconsciously ...

JS

Elz
02-16-2005, 08:04 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rod:</font><hr> Your question of what english depends on how you want the c/b or object ball to react. There is no real answer unless we know what your trying to do. I sugest you do a little reading first then ask some questions. Have a look at Bob's site -- SF Billiards (http://www.sfbilliards.com/misc.htm) or have a look at DR dave's site for some video. Dr Dave (http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/)

In the end, speed, spin, distance, cue angle, squirt, swerve and table conditions/equipment all have a say in where you aim.

Rod <hr /></blockquote>

I've read Pool player's edge By Gerry Kanov twice. It tells you the basics...(basics)

I'll have a look at the ones you mentioned. Thanks.

Bob_Jewett
02-16-2005, 04:05 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Elz:</font><hr> I've been practicing left and right english. I've noticed that the angle has to change in order to get your shot in.
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Hi Elz,

If you're just starting to learn about side spin, there are four or five ideas you need to understand when learning about it. (In the long run, you will play by feel, mostly, and not even think about what's going on.) Those things are:

squirt (sometimes incorrectly called deflection)

swerve

throw

cling (also called skid or kick)

miscues

All of these can be large enough to make you miss shots if they aren't compensated for. Some work in one direction and some the other. I could have sworn that the book you have (Kanov and Stauch) mentions all of these, but maybe not.

For more information, with a diagram, see http://www.sfbilliards.com/onthebreak/2003_06_english.pdf and for basic definitions, see http://www.sfbilliards.com/faq.html