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SnakebyteXX
03-02-2005, 06:49 AM
By Rajesh Mahapatra, Associated Press Writer | March 2, 2005

NEW DELHI -- From constipation to cancer, diarrhea to diabetes, they offer to cure nearly everything -- with medicines made from cow urine. India's Hindu nationalists, who were ousted from power last May, have a new job: promoting cow products that many Indians believe have great therapeutic value.

A stall at the headquarters of the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party showcases more than two dozen tonics, potions, pills and a line of cosmetics. The products are sold under the brand name Goratna, or "jewels of the cow."

"It's very good, very effective. You must try some of these," said S.P. Sharma, a BJP official, as he offered to buy a pack of face cream he said helped his daughter get rid of pimples.

"My daughter tried all kinds of things. Nothing worked," Sharma said. "But this one is working wonders for her. Last week, I bought one pack and today I am buying one more."

The Goratna offerings use five key cow products -- butter, milk, curd, urine and dung. Purushottam Toshniwal, the general secretary of the cooperative that manufactures the cosmetics, said workers there followed a "solid scientific process" based on India's ancient herbal remedies, known as ayurveda.

Ayurveda has seen a big boom in India in recent years, with everything from shampoos to spa treatments advertised as ayurvedic. Indians "are realizing modern medicines are no good. Moreover, they make a big hole in your pocket," Toshniwal said.

Although many Indian scientists and doctors believe in the efficacy of some ayurvedic medicines, few agree there is proof that cow urine enhances their impact.

Cows are sacred to India's more than 800 million Hindus, and Hindu nationalist parties have often used cows as a symbol to further their political goals.

The most expensive item on the stall is sanjivani ark, a transparent urine-based potion sold as a cancer treatment. It costs 80 rupees (US$1.80; euro1.36) for a month's dose, and comes packed in plastic bottles with no expiration date.

"There is no expiry date for ayurvedic medicines. Because there is no chemical in it," said Manoj Kumar, who manages the stall.

Kumar said the response has been very good since the stall opened last week. The best seller has been kamdhenu ghanvati -- a multipurpose pill that Kumar says cures liver diseases, diabetes, hemorrhoids and asthma.

"More and more people are visiting the stall after reading about it in the newspapers," Kumar said.

The science and technology minister in the previous Hindu nationalist-led government pushed officials to file an application with the U.S. Patent Office for a patent on cow urine distillate. The patent was granted in 2002.

"Even in the United States, they now recognize the worth of cow urine," Toshniwal said.

But a patent doesn't guarantee scientific validity.

Even some scientists who believe in traditional medicine have warned against the beliefs in cow urine espoused by some in the previous government.

"Neither the reported experiments nor the grant of the U.S. patent vindicates the use of cow urine as a bio-enhancer," said M.D. Nair, a retired government scientist. "Much more needs to be done before we can even consider its potential utility."


link (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/03/02/medicines_made_from_cow_urine_and_dung/)

Chris Cass
03-04-2005, 03:35 AM
Hi Snake,

I've been taking a pill from Asia named Coriolus-PSP. It's a dietary suppliment made from natural Mushrooms. They say, seven of them. It's been in clinical trails and helped one woman into remission. I take 2 perday and although mine is in pill form and hers was through injection. It may work for me too. There's nothing I wouldn't do to be able to get into remission right now.

I'm upbeat and my attitude is fighting this but my body is fighting me. I always thought the mind has all the power to heal itself and continue to not give up. I've tried everything so far and already been through the radiation and only one week of chemo. It's strong chemo and so far it's beat me up pretty good. He had to take me off it. My platlets are really low and they're trying to get my body junp started back.

Thanks for the link it helps,

Regards,

C.C.~~no one wants to talk much to me. not all my friends are avoiding me but some that count are. I hate what I've caused them to feel about the whole situation. it hurts me more to being egnored. many look at me and then turn away like if I wasn't there. I suppose I deserve this. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

SnakebyteXX
03-04-2005, 07:51 AM
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C.C.~~no one wants to talk much to me. not all my friends are avoiding me but some that count are. I hate what I've caused them to feel about the whole situation. it hurts me more to being egnored. many look at me and then turn away like if I wasn't there. I suppose I deserve this <hr /></blockquote>

Chris,

I doubt that you're personally the cause of why some people may be avoiding talking/seeing you. It's human nature. It's more likely the prospect that you may be dying that scares the crap out of some people. Scares them so badly that they prefer to deny or avoid the experience rather than deal with it head on - The prospect that a friend might be dying and that they are helpless to do anything to stop it forces people to confront their own mortality. Not an easy thing for anyone to do. For some it's overwhelming.

Clearly you can not avoid or deny what's happening to you. Unlike some of your squeemish friends who can bury their heads in the sand there is no way that you can hide from what's happening. From where I sit, it sounds like you are doing what you need to do - taking things one day at a time and pushing on through to the other side. Where ever that other side happens to be...

One thing is for sure, you DO NOT deserve to be ignored by anyone - least of all your friends. None of this is your fault. Try and forgive them for their weakness, it's a human failing. Also know that in this time of need your true friends will step up to the plate and be there for you no matter how things go. That's how you can tell who they are.

Chris, your strength of purpose shines through your post. There is a lot to be admired about your efforts to combat this terrible illness. No one but you or someone who has been through it can possibly know how hard it has been - or how hard it is now.

Never quit trying - no matter how much it hurts or how tough it gets.

The only way to it is through it.

Snake

PQQLK9
03-04-2005, 08:05 AM
You know Snake ... the thing I like about the fine folks on this forum is that they often say the things I want to say but say it more eloquently.

SPetty
03-04-2005, 09:06 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote PQQLK9:</font><hr> You know Snake ... the thing I like about the fine folks on this forum is that they often say the things I want to say but say it more eloquently.<hr /></blockquote>Way more eloquently. Thanks, Snake. We care, Chris.

Barbara
03-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Wow!!

Very well said, Snake!

Barbara

Barbara
03-04-2005, 11:24 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Chris Cass:</font><hr> Hi Snake,

I've been taking a pill from Asia named Coriolus-PSP. It's a dietary suppliment made from natural Mushrooms. They say, seven of them. It's been in clinical trails and helped one woman into remission. I take 2 perday and although mine is in pill form and hers was through injection. It may work for me too. There's nothing I wouldn't do to be able to get into remission right now.

I'm upbeat and my attitude is fighting this but my body is fighting me. I always thought the mind has all the power to heal itself and continue to not give up. I've tried everything so far and already been through the radiation and only one week of chemo. It's strong chemo and so far it's beat me up pretty good. He had to take me off it. My platlets are really low and they're trying to get my body junp started back.

Thanks for the link it helps,

Regards,

C.C.~~no one wants to talk much to me. not all my friends are avoiding me but some that count are. I hate what I've caused them to feel about the whole situation. it hurts me more to being egnored. many look at me and then turn away like if I wasn't there. I suppose I deserve this. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

No Chris, you do not deserve this! But I'm glad to hear that you're still fighting the fight!

Barbara