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Fred Agnir
05-08-2005, 07:14 AM
I'm back from an exhausting trip to the ACS Nationals. Here's my report:

Vendors:

Only a handful. Hawleys, Frank's Place among a few others. Apparel extrodinaire Linda Pault and her Rt. 9 Design, Hustlin' Inc. USA, The Schuler Cue company, and Guido the cue mechanic. There were a handfull more, but nothing much else. Less than half of what's seen at the BCA Nationals.

Tournament:
Small. If someone wanted to win money at the singles, this was the time to do it. Too bad I didn't play it. A friend of mine who plays the same speed finished high in the 128-player Open. 9-12 or 13-17. That might bump him to Masters, but believe me, he's no master player.

The Open Teams was also a 128-Team draw. And some of the teams, maybe half of the teams should have played in the newly formed Standard division. My team is made up of four guys that would be APA-7 level and one APA-6 level (if that helps), and we got into the first round of money (25-32). The last three or four teams were teams that were just out Master level. Again, they'll end up Master teams and might not like it. The Standard Division is made up of a slightly lower skilled players (on average).

Overall, I believe there were around 1000 players. Compare that to the upcoming 5000-6000 players going to the BCA Nationals.

Of course, this is the first year of the ACS Nationals. Next year, instead of Reno, it will be in Vegas in June, possibly at the Riviera. I'd like to say that it can only get bigger. However, it could get wiped out.

I spent more time in the Casino than anything else, as the tournament simply didn't hold any interest for me. There was only four Master teams that signed up. Hardly anything to pay attention to. There were only three Masters Women's Team. Not something I wanted to sweat. And, there were so few women, the whole Women's tournament was a mixed handicapped event, something that I despise at a National tournament. Morgan Steinman (Rte 9 Design), who won the ACS 9-ball event doubled up and won the 8-ball at Reno as well.

So... I much look forward to going to the BCA Nationals next week. To say the least.

Fred <~~~ won more money at the Casinos than most of the finishers

SpiderMan
05-09-2005, 08:28 AM
The ACS nationals were definitely smaller than what I'm used to seeing at the BCA. I'd go out on a limb and disagree about the vendor participation, though. Rather than one-half, I'd put it more like one-fourth of the typical BCA show. None of the "big" guys were there (Meucci, Viking, Meullers, etc).

There seemed to be a lot of confusion about the qualifications for the various levels of play. There were very few players/teams in the so-called "Masters" category.

BTW, Reno ain't Las Vegas. The 'Vegas strip is like a city in itself, or maybe another Planet. Reno is just a small town in the desert, with a cluster of casinos in the downtown area.

The food was disappointing as well. I actually failed to gain any weight on this trip, and I had dropped five pounds in anticipation of the buffets!

One similarity in 'Vegas and Reno - gas was about $2.55 a gallon. Yikes!

SpiderMan

SPetty
05-09-2005, 09:28 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SpiderMan:</font><hr>The food was disappointing as well. I actually failed to gain any weight on this trip, and I had dropped five pounds in anticipation of the buffets!<hr /></blockquote>If you make it to Vegas next week, I'll buy you a Rio buffet!

SpiderMan
05-09-2005, 09:45 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SPetty:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote SpiderMan:</font><hr>The food was disappointing as well. I actually failed to gain any weight on this trip, and I had dropped five pounds in anticipation of the buffets!<hr /></blockquote>If you make it to Vegas next week, I'll buy you a Rio buffet! <hr /></blockquote>

Wish I could, but I'm out of vacation. I actually took two days without pay last week.

SpiderMan

littleCajun
05-09-2005, 10:17 AM
SPetty,
I would be more than happy to take his place /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

stroker
05-17-2005, 08:53 AM
Hi Spyderman,
I heard the Texas boys did pretty good out there.
Tony "Molassas"

SpiderMan
05-17-2005, 10:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote stroker:</font><hr> Hi Spyderman,
I heard the Texas boys did pretty good out there.
Tony "Molassas" <hr /></blockquote>

I was very pleased with our play.

I did not think we had a strong enough team to get far, but somehow we all had hot streaks at the same time. Also, my team captain had put us in the "standard" division, which has more lower-skilled players. I was not happy to learn that, but I guess you go with the flow.

I'd been playing bar tourneys at the rate of 4 per week for the past 3 months, to get really accustomed to 7' tables. Anyway, I won 29 out of 36 games played (81%), and my team lasted for 8 or 9 rounds before being finally eliminated. Unfortunately, the turnout was quite low compared to 'Vegas, so there was not much payout.

As Fred suggested, it probably would have been a good year to enter singles.

Are you moved yet, if so will you be doing summer 9-ball?

SpiderMan

Deeman2
05-17-2005, 11:22 AM
Spiderman,

Congratulations on the nice finish. I think Tony is moved but may play in both places! Who named him Mollasses? Oh! I did. Anyway, he's supposed to play on my nine ball team in Longview but might just come back and forth and play your's full time while playing on occasion for me.

When do you guys start. I think we start the 6th of June, Dman Day...

Deeman
53 yesterday...now, I'll stop counting....

SpiderMan
05-17-2005, 11:26 AM
We start 9-ball next Monday, but usually the first week is just organization, signups, and play for fun.

SpiderMan

stroker
05-17-2005, 12:11 PM
Are you moved yet, if so will you be doing summer 9-ball?

SpiderMan

Yes, I'm living in McKinney full time right now. I've still got 2 possible job openings there, but also in Sherman with the same company. I'm going to get in touch with Paul tonite. I think 9 ball would be fun. I do plan to play. I just have to work a couple of things out in the meantime.
Tony "Molassas"

stroker
05-17-2005, 12:18 PM
Happy B-Day Deeman,
53? You don't look a day over 40! How did the meeting go?
Did you get a chance to look at that table? I plan to come in friday. We should get together Saturday if you can.
Tony "Molassas"

Deeman2
05-17-2005, 12:48 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote stroker:</font><hr> Happy B-Day Deeman,
53? <font color="blue"> Thank-you </font color> You don't look a day over 40! <font color="blue"> Yeah, right! </font color> How did the meeting go? <font color="blue"> No one showed but I got Carl to commit on Sunday and looks o.k. for us to have a nice, murderous team... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif </font color>
Did you get a chance to look at that table? <font color="blue"> Yes, not worth more than $500 at the most and she already has a bid for that. (Unless you are a die hard Lee Roy Jordan Fan! It's an earky 60's Brunswick with good slate but the particleboard is a little warped so I'd pass if I was you. </font color> I plan to come in friday. We should get together Saturday if you can. <font color="blue"> Can do. Maybe Walter, me and you and Sam if he's busted in Vegas. You know he got martried there on Friday evening. I called them on their Honeymoon night! /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I say she wears him out and he won't make a ball. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif </font color>

Deeman
see you on Saturday night, might want to knock off the EDR's tournament on Friday evening if you get in early enough. I'm barred, again.
<hr /></blockquote>

mickeymouse
05-17-2005, 10:13 PM
I was there two weekends in a row. I only live a short drive over the border...lucky me.

The highlight for me was to win $ in the Silver Legacy Casino at "Wheel of Fortune" cashed out right away and within 15 minutes was back at the event center where I bought my first Predator
Que from "Frank's Center" out of Nevada, MO ...I really like it...mucho.

What a great weekend, found some great prime rib, watched some great pool, met fellow enthusiasts from all over the country and watched "Dr. Cue's" (Tom Rossman) hilarious one hour demonstration on the last Friday night.

If any of you were there for that my Mother was the one Tom kept moving her purse from one side of her to the other to block the 'wind draft' that caused several misses. My girlfriend got a great introduction to some of the stuff we do and some of the lenthy conversations we can get into over our sport.

And....went home with more money than I came with. Doesn't get much better than that.