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Leviathan
05-15-2005, 08:11 AM
Saw this shot called and pocketed yesterday (in a game of 8 ball). Wondered whether the shooter had other options.--AS

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Troy
05-15-2005, 08:18 AM
The diagram shows fairly extreme RIGHT english which appears to make the shot impossible.

I think going to the end rail for the kick would be an easier shot with a very real possible safety.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Leviathan:</font><hr> Saw this shot called and pocketed yesterday (in a game of 8 ball). Wondered whether the shooter had other options.--AS

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Leviathan
05-15-2005, 08:28 AM
Thanks, Troy. I fixed the illustration.--AS

Fran Crimi
05-15-2005, 05:51 PM
I think it depends on the skill of the shooter. Using reverse in kicks can get pretty tricky, but I guess if the player practices reverse kicks a lot it might be okay for them to do. Actually, it's a pretty good strategy if you're confident you'll make the hit. Even if he/she didn't pocket the ball there's a pretty high percentage that the cb would wind up down table and leave a long shot for their opponent.

For me, I wouldn't be so comfortable using reverse over that distance. I would probably opt for a guaranteed hit on the ball off the back rail, and hope for some luck of maybe not leaving a shot for my opponent. At least I'm not giving up BIH.

Fran

SpiderMan
05-16-2005, 07:26 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Leviathan:</font><hr> Saw this shot called and pocketed yesterday (in a game of 8 ball). Wondered whether the shooter had other options.--AS

Wei table: http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html

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I would have kicked off the end rail, and called the ball in the upper left corner.

Why? Because a good hit but no pocket would probably have about the same chance of leaving the opponent "out" in either case, and my choice is an easier shot.

A ball-in-hand for the opponent would be a definite sell-out, and by kicking off the end rail I would eliminate that possibility. I also believe that the shooter's choice had a fairly high scratch risk in both the side and the corner.

In this situation you always call the most likely pocket, even if there is only a 10% chance of dropping it. Most likely, your 8-ball shape will be much better than what you have on the one.

SpiderMan

Nightstalker
05-16-2005, 08:45 AM
I would have done the same thing, SpiderMan. What he did was risky, but worked out.

Popcorn
05-16-2005, 03:11 PM
Just for something a little different although probably easier then what is shown in your example.
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I kick two rails with spin and catch a piece of the one ball sending the cueball up table and the one off the ten going to the bottom rail. I actually tried it and was able to hit the one every time but sold out a few times and got up table about an equal number of times.