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cueball1950
06-11-2005, 10:11 PM
Well it looks like Mike Tyson has finally come to his senses and retired after failing to come out for the 7th round against his irish opponent. Mike stated that he just does not have the desire for fighting anymore. He also claims that he does not want to disgrace the sport of BOXING anymore. Nuff said. At 1 time he was the greatest boxer. Now Mike go enjoy retirement and tell the IRS to go to hell. Make some other type of arrangements to pay them. I am glad to see you getting out now. It is not about disgracing boxing as much as it is about discracing yourself and getting hurt by 1 of these so called tomato cans they want you to fight. So please for everyone invloved, mainly yourself, stay retired this time. You will be missed for sure........................mike

AmazingBrewdini
06-11-2005, 11:17 PM
Tyson no longer has that "killer" instinct. He would do well to stay away from boxing.

On a different note I think that Don King was the worst thing for Mike. Tyson should never have turned his back on Cus D'Amato.

DebraLiStarr
06-12-2005, 01:15 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote cueball1950:</font><hr> Well it looks like Mike Tyson has finally come to his senses and retired after failing to come out for the 7th round against his irish opponent. Mike stated that he just does not have the desire for fighting anymore. He also claims that he does not want to disgrace the sport of BOXING anymore. Nuff said. At 1 time he was the greatest boxer. Now Mike go enjoy retirement and tell the IRS to go to hell. Make some other type of arrangements to pay them. I am glad to see you getting out now. It is not about disgracing boxing as much as it is about discracing yourself and getting hurt by 1 of these so called tomato cans they want you to fight. So please for everyone invloved, mainly yourself, stay retired this time. You will be missed for sure........................mike <hr /></blockquote>

Mike,
Do you really think that Mike Tyson actually will read this? Do you think he's lurking? Just wondering. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

dg-in-centralpa
06-12-2005, 04:52 AM
I agree Mike. At one time I couldn't see anybody beating him except Don King. King beat and ruined many a good fighter.

DG

Cueless Joey
06-12-2005, 09:19 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Mike,
Do you really think that Mike Tyson actually will read this? Do you think he's lurking? Just wondering. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif <hr /></blockquote>
As part of Mike Tyson's early release from rape conviction prison term, he is required to read pool forums. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Back to Tyson.
There had been rumors for years that Mike gets gassed out after 4 rounds of SPARRING in the gym. So, basically, if he didn't knock out his opponents early, he's dead meat.
Apparently that was the case. He quit because he was exhausted against Williams and McBride.
Mike should have never signed with Don King. Don King corrupted him. Don told him, Mike can't trust "them Jews".
So, after Cus D'Amato and Jimmy Jacobs died, Don moved in and stole Mike from Bill Cayton and Kevin Rooney. Don introduced Mike to booze, 'hos and cocaine. That did in Mike. Lost to Douglas in Tokyo in 1990 and he was never the same after that. Mike was also dumb enough to give Don Corleone King power of attorney when he went in the can. Don stole everything . Mike sued him for millions later on and had to settle for a lot less to pay part of his IRS debt.
Mike said last night he is retiring from BOXING.
He will most likely fight on K1 or Pridefighting in Japan.
Sadly, Mike is broke and I have no idea how he's going to handle life after boxing.

Voodoo Daddy
06-12-2005, 09:46 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote AmazingBrewdini:</font><hr> Tyson no longer has that "killer" instinct. He would do well to stay away from boxing.

On a different note I think that Don King was the worst thing for Mike. Tyson should never have turned his back on Cus D'Amato. <hr /></blockquote>

Hard to turn yout back on someone that died, he left Kevin Rooney. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DebraLiStarr
06-12-2005, 12:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Cueless Joey:</font><hr>

As part of Mike Tyson's early release from rape conviction prison term, he is required to read pool forums. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
<hr /></blockquote>

Maybe he was Yapping Wolf!!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

nhp
06-12-2005, 03:06 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Cueless Joey:</font><hr>

He will most likely fight on K1 or Pridefighting in Japan.
Sadly, Mike is broke and I have no idea how he's going to handle life after boxing. <hr /></blockquote>

Did you hear from anyone that he would switch to Pridefighting? That would be crazy to see him fight in that. I think he is too old, however. Plus I heard boxers don't fare well in the UFC or Pridefighting.

cueball1950
06-12-2005, 03:18 PM
Mike was doing drugs long before he met Don king. when he was coming up in the boxing world he use to come up to troy and albany for his "FIX" and to drink and get his HO"s. For the 1st couple of years mike fought on a regular basis in troy at the RPI field house and at the glens falls civic center. he was always a fixture in this area. albany is where mike met his running partners rory hollaway and the other guy. (his nams escapes me). they were his managers for a short while. and they also bled him dry. he was also a silent partner in a "gentlemans" club in albany......mike

AmazingBrewdini
06-12-2005, 03:21 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Voodoo Daddy:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote AmazingBrewdini:</font><hr> Tyson no longer has that "killer" instinct. He would do well to stay away from boxing.

On a different note I think that Don King was the worst thing for Mike. Tyson should never have turned his back on Cus D'Amato. <hr /></blockquote>

Hard to turn yout back on someone that died, he left Kevin Rooney. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif <hr /></blockquote>

My bad. I haven't really kept up on boxing in decades. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

FWIW - I think one of the greatest eras in boxing was the early '80's. Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Arguello...now those were some exciting fights! (Except for the infamous Duran "no mas" debacle.)

Fran Crimi
06-12-2005, 03:57 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Cueless Joey:</font><hr>

Sadly, Mike is broke and I have no idea how he's going to handle life after boxing. <hr /></blockquote>


I have trouble feeling sorry for a rapist.

On another note:

Here's a trivia queston: Why were most of the major fights in the 70's and 80's fought in Atlantic City rather than Vegas?

Fran ~~~ yes I do know the answer

Cueless Joey
06-12-2005, 10:23 PM
I didn't know most of the major fights in the 70's and 80's were fought in NJ.
Las Vegas has a blackout rule on major fights fought in Vegas, I think.
So it's either because of the blackout rule or no betting line in Vegas.
But, most of the big fights I remember were fought in Vegas.
Ali-Frazier I and II were fought in MSG though. Ali-Norton III at the Yankee stadium.

LARRY_BOY
06-13-2005, 06:02 AM
I guess he didn't "gut him like a fish' after all...

Fran Crimi
06-13-2005, 06:34 AM
Bill Cayton's horses fought mostly in NJ because Bill had a serious fear of flying. He refused to set foot on a plane, so a Vegas bout would mean a 3-day train ride for him which he avoided as much as possible.

Fran

Cueless Joey
06-13-2005, 07:42 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Fran Crimi:</font><hr> Bill Cayton's horses fought mostly in NJ because Bill had a serious fear of flying. He refused to set foot on a plane, so a Vegas bout would mean a 3-day train ride for him which he avoided as much as possible.

Fran <hr /></blockquote>
Thanks Fran. I did not know that.
I think you know this one too.
Bill Cayton's deceased partner, Jimmy Jacobs, was a world handball champion. He also owned all boxing films AND pool films.

Fran Crimi
06-13-2005, 08:32 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Cueless Joey:</font><hr>
Thanks Fran. I did not know that.
I think you know this one too.
Bill Cayton's deceased partner, Jimmy Jacobs, was a world handball champion. He also owned all boxing films AND pool films. <hr /></blockquote>

Yes, I do remember that. Did you know that Bill Cayton died also...I think last year or the year before. The pool films were owned by Big Fights, of which Cayton was a partner. After Jimmy's death, Bill sold (or licensed) the films to ESPN.

I don't know if you know this, but Paul Balukas (Jean's brother) and I negotiated the first women's WPBA pool event on ESPN with Cayton. It was a scary deal, and I can honestly say now that Bill is gone, that there were times Paul and I thought we were going to wind up in the East River in cement shoes. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I don't think the players ever realized how good a deal we got them. Cayton wanted to own us for 7 years. It was either that or no television deal and you can believe he was serious. I did some homework and found out that in his arrogance, Cayton had already signed the casino and ESPN contracts before even approaching us. He figured we would be the easy part. He was wrong.

We negotiated him down to a 3 year contract, where he had to produce one $25k event every 12 months or the contract was void. Cayton was furious. We probably could have asked for more, but we figured if we wanted to stay alive we should stop there. LOL

So, overnight we went from a $500 TOTAL prize fund to $25,000. Enter Richie Florence who decides to jump on the bandwagon and offer ESPN events for FREE, which wound up setting the stage for all future dealings with ESPN.

Richie of course, invited the women to participate, but they were still bound by Cayton's contract at the time. Some of the women complained and threatened to sue Cayton from stopping them from making a living. Cayton was fed up and decided rather than fight, he just threw his hands in the air so he said, "Forget it. I'm out. You're on your own."

ESPN never paid us for an event again.

Fran

SPetty
06-13-2005, 10:02 AM
Thanks, Fran. That's some interesting, if somewhat scary, stuff! Us "newbies" to the game/sport don't know much at all about most of the history, so posts like this are extra interesting!

theinel
06-15-2005, 02:40 PM
Thanks Fran. That's really interesting stuff. Have you ever written or considered writing an article or story on those early days of the WPBA? I would really like to read something like that.

Fran Crimi
06-15-2005, 04:45 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed the story. I spoke with Paul last year and we still laugh at how two kids right out of college managed to get the best of the great Bill Cayton.

Paul went on to become the New York State Welfare Inspector General. He does good things.

Fran

Fran Crimi
06-15-2005, 04:58 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote theinel:</font><hr> Thanks Fran. That's really interesting stuff. Have you ever written or considered writing an article or story on those early days of the WPBA? I would really like to read something like that. <hr /></blockquote>


Thanks. I've thought about writing about the early days. It's a big job to get all the facts correct, though. We had very little documentation back then. It would be strictly from memory, though which may or may not be totally accurate.

Fran