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Rangercap
06-15-2005, 07:40 AM
Has anyone seen the show on CourtTV called "The Takedown"? I was flipping through the channels last night and saw a preview for next weeks show - "Shootout at Mr. Lucky's" where Melissa Herndon will apparently "hustle the hustler." Should be interesting. The show seems to follow a group who try to "beat the house" is various gambling games. Last night was about shooting craps. I only caught the last 5 minutes.

The new episode will appear Jun 21 10:30pm EST on CourtTV.

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Popcorn
06-15-2005, 07:44 AM
I wonder if they do it then do a recreation of what they did? Seems someone may say, "By the way, why are those guys following you around with all those cameras?"

Jude_Rosenstock
06-15-2005, 10:52 AM
Melissa Herndon???? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

When did she become a "hustler"? This is no knock on her game (the woman plays nice). I simply have never heard anything about her gambling exploits. It would have been nice if they brought in someone who was known for action. Grady Matthews, perhaps?

thecardman
06-15-2005, 03:31 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Popcorn:</font><hr> I wonder if they do it then do a recreation of what they did? Seems someone may say, "By the way, why are those guys following you around with all those cameras?"<hr /></blockquote>

Hi folks

Although I won't see it (unless one of the satellite channels here in the UK pick it up), I have an interest in "The Takedown" - one of the stars of the show, R. Paul Wilson, is one of my best friends. We've known each other for a l-o-n-g time!

Just regarding the post about the cameras, here is part of a post that Paul made on a magician's forum regarding that.

<font color="brown">"We usually give an excuse for the cameras to be in the environment we're working. On the craps day we were supposedly shooting a show about "Gambling And The Law". The staff were not supposed to know we were shooting "The Takedown" or that we were planning to cheat on the table."</font color>

Pool players aren't the only ones who are interested in this show - magicians are too (the physical techniques of card magic and card cheating are almost identical, although the psychological background to it is TOTALLY different) and there are a few threads on some of the magic forums about this programme.

So, can some of you guys and gals do me a favour? Can you please post your thoughts on the pool episode. I'd like to pass them onto Paul who can pass them onto the production company and let them know what pool players thought of what was going on. Was it credible? Were there some glaring errors? Somehow, with Melissa on-board, I don't think so!

Happy viewing, folks!

Best wishes

thecardman
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sneakypapi
06-15-2005, 09:42 PM
I have seen the the previews for next weeks show. I am not sure if the cameras will be hidden or not. I know the premise is to hustle the hustler, now who can this hustler be I wonder? lol. Anyway, I would guess they picked Melissa a female player because she is more unassuming and would be able to trick a guy out, most of us who follow pool would spot her, but many people would not.

landshark77
06-16-2005, 06:27 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote sneakypapi:</font><hr> Anyway, I would guess they picked Melissa a female player because she is more unassuming and would be able to trick a guy out, most of us who follow pool would spot her, but many people would not. <hr /></blockquote>

Plus she 100% awesome. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

thecardman
06-21-2005, 01:20 PM
Remember to try and catch CourtTV tonight for "The Takedown" and let me know what you thought of it all. I'll pass your opinions directly to the people who make the show.

Happy viewing!

thecardman
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tjlmbklr
06-22-2005, 07:19 AM
I TiVo'ed the episode and was amused at best. If this guy were any pool player at all he would know who Melissa Herndon is. And as far as the cameras they definitely were not hidden. Call it reality TV or just a show, but too many people are fouled buy what reality TV has done for how we view television. Lots of editing and even more is the fact that it is still TV and there is quite a bit of acting involved. I am not saying it wasn't amusing but if I wanted to see bad acting with pool involved I'll just pop in my Pool hall Junkies DVD. (Except Christopher Walkin)

9 Ball Girl
06-22-2005, 07:26 AM
I watched the last 15 minutes of it last night and it was the first time that I saw the Takedown so I'm not familiar with the way they do their programs. Anyway, it was cute, I think, for entertainment purposes. But for the pool player in me, it was a little bit on the cliche side but I still enjoyed it. I doubt that the audience for the Takedown are all pool players so this would be nice entertainment for them.

The guy who was playing the hustler, I've met bar players that play really good and don't know squat about who the Pros are or what Pro tournaments there are so the fact that this guy didn't know Melissa was a lot like reality to me.

I loved Melissa's facial expressions!

tjlmbklr
06-22-2005, 08:33 AM
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the fact that this guy didn't know Melissa was a lot like reality to me.
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This could be very true but like it was meantioned in other posts, is she even allowed to do such a thing while under contract with the WPBA

SpiderMan
06-22-2005, 10:05 AM
So if you watched this (I didn't), is there a consensus that it was probably just a scripted act?

SpiderMan

tjlmbklr
06-22-2005, 11:04 AM
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is there a consensus that it was probably just a scripted act?
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You never once saw anyone look into the camera, yet they were not hidden as far as I could tell. So like most programs on TV today reality or not it probably was a scripted show.

theinel
06-22-2005, 12:32 PM
From what I heard they gave back all of the money that they won so I doubt that the WPBA would have a problem with it.

BoroNut
06-22-2005, 01:08 PM
So the series so far is:

Cards/Dice/Roulette - the inside track on the careful planning, set-up, and sophisticated techniques used by professional gamblers to dupe thousands of dollars out of the biggest and most profitable casinos on earth in the face of the most advanced surveillance technology available.

Pool - the inside track on the careful planning, set-up, and sophisticated techniques used to rob a fat bloke in the pub out of his bus fare home using a pointy stick, whilst singularly failing to explain why it wouldn’t have been less effort just to wait in the back alley with the pointy stick.

Boro Nut

JimS
06-23-2005, 04:46 AM
I watched and I believe that that the whole thing is a crock of ...t

caedos
06-23-2005, 06:49 AM
Those were minutes of my life I will never get back. What a waste of air time.


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sneakypapi
06-23-2005, 09:48 AM
They said in the show that the cameras were in plain site because they were filming for a pool documentary (obviously not saying a reality show for hustling a hustler). After watching the show I found it almost stupid, but TV is going to be TV, Im sure the acting might be up for an Emmy LOL.

SplinterHands
06-23-2005, 02:06 PM
That show was bad for pool, plain and simple.