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nolimit9ball
06-15-2005, 11:32 AM
BALLBREAKERS is here!!!!!
Tune in July 18th @ 10pm on GSN, the network for games!

No, it’s not a new reality show about women busting their husbands’ chops -- nor is it a retrospective about the demolition industry’s beloved wrecking ball. BALLBREAKERS is television’s first regular series featuring the popular world of billiards. Over 40 million people in the United States play pool and BALLBREAKERS will give amateurs and hustlers around the country a chance to play for big money.

BALLBREAKERS is a high-energy, fast-paced multi-round elimination game in which four players play 9-Ball for a chance to win $20,000. The series is hosted by Sal Masekela (“X Games”) and Ewa Mataya Laurance (known as the “Striking Viking” in the billiard industry) will be providing expert commentary on game play and giving advice to players when asked. Laurance has won all of the major events on the WPBA Tour, including the World Championships, the US Open, the WPBA National Championship as well as the European Championships.

Adrianne Curry, winner of the first season of “America’s Next Top Model,” will serve as the series’ “rack girl.” She will also assist with the betting component of the game and keep track of any side bets that take place.

With four players per episode, each participant will begin with a $5,000 "bankroll" to challenge the competition throughout their episode. A player is eliminated when they have lost their bankroll. The player who defeats the competition and leaves all of the other players broke will walk away with $20,000.

During each episode, no player can deny a challenge from the player with control of the table. Once a minimum challenge of $1,000 is made, the two players will then play one game of 9-Ball for the minimum amount or more if they agree. Competing and non-competing players may also engage in side betting on the current match. The players will have to combine their billiard talents with the guts to bet big on themselves and their ability to analyze the skills of their opponents – establishing themselves as the ultimate “hustler.”

You can email Jason with questions and comments: jason@ballbreakers.tv and don’t forget to log onto GSN.com beginning July 1st to get the latest info on the highly anticipated BALLBREAKERS!!!

Steve Lipsky
06-15-2005, 11:40 AM
It's bad enough you're spamming us with this crap, but to do it over a month before the show is just rude.

Any chance you could leave us alone until the middle of July?

Thanks,
Steve

Thunderduck
06-16-2005, 01:21 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Steve Lipsky:</font><hr> It's bad enough you're spamming us with this crap, but to do it over a month before the show is just rude.

Any chance you could leave us alone until the middle of July?

Thanks,
Steve <hr /></blockquote>

Hey, he got excited, give the guy a break!!

Ballbreakers, isnt that a show about my ex-girlfriends?

QUACK!

landshark77
06-16-2005, 06:24 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Steve Lipsky:</font><hr> It's bad enough you're spamming us with this crap, but to do it over a month before the show is just rude.

Any chance you could leave us alone until the middle of July?

Thanks,
Steve <hr /></blockquote>

LMAO! I asked him the same thing on AZ. I know over there it made the same EXACT post 3 times all within days of each other. I'm too lazy to look up his post here.

dutchboy
06-16-2005, 01:25 PM
Great, another dumbass show to lower the bar so much we wont be able to see it. How can any of you be excited about such a piece of crap...girls with big boobs, ball bangers...do you really think this elevates this game? The game of Lassiter and Crane? Ewa must be hard up for work or she just hung around Jimmy for to many years to be a part of this, better she promotes Viagra or Stay free panty liners because that's the quality of sponsers this short term losing attempt with get. Whatever happenned to elegance and the beauty of this game to those who really can play represents?

1Time
06-17-2005, 01:12 AM
This program probably will bring more interest to the game and more pool players. It then will be up to the likes of us to help their interest grow once they show up at the pool hall.

dutchboy
06-18-2005, 04:59 PM
Oh! So that's what I should be doing while I'm spending my hard earned money, practicing shot making and position play and cue ball control while dodging the antics of frustrated martial artists who think every cue is bow staff...listening to profanity and adolescent high fives. Thanks for clearing that up for me, I've always been at a loss as to what to do between shots...or is that between beers? You cant be serious.

1Time
06-18-2005, 05:41 PM
The question is, will this show be good for the sport? And I say this show gives the likes of us the opportunity to make it good for the sport.

As most of us have learned, there are "givers" and there are "takers". The "takers" give pool a bad rep. It's up to the "givers" to take advantage of this opportunity to improve the sport. You, I, and the like will continue to spend our hard earned money. And those newer players brought to the pool hall by this show will be "takers" for the most part, but also potential "givers".

If not for the likes of us to be the "givers" at the pool hall for these beginners, then who? It's up the the likes of us to set the sportsmanlike example for the beginners to follow. And, I suggest if you're not one of the "givers", then you're not good for the sport, which happens to extend beyond you and the table you're playing.

Thunderduck
06-20-2005, 10:06 PM
What is everyone so upset about? Sounds like a really entertaining show about pool! If shows like this dont gain popularity, expect every dumb show on tv to be about Texas Holdem!

1Time
06-21-2005, 12:10 AM
Whether you or anyone posting in this thread will enjoy this show is irrelavant to the points discussed in the previous few posts.

It's as if people were discussing what effect the rain will have on a farmer's crops today, and you jump in with, "Why is everyone upset? I like the rain."

Perhaps re-reading the last few posts may help you understand. If you still don't, I will be glad to explain this further.

Thunderduck
06-21-2005, 02:10 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 1Time:</font><hr> Whether you or anyone posting in this thread will enjoy this show is irrelavant to the points discussed in the previous few posts.

It's as if people were discussing what effect the rain will have on a farmer's crops today, and you jump in with, "Why is everyone upset? I like the rain."

Perhaps re-reading the last few posts may help you understand. If you still don't, I will be glad to explain this further. <hr /></blockquote>

If the show is entertaining, of course it will benefit pool... more people will want to play the game!!!

1Time
06-21-2005, 11:20 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote 1Time:</font><hr> Whether you or anyone posting in this thread will enjoy this show is irrelavant to the points discussed in the previous few posts.

It's as if people were discussing what effect the rain will have on a farmer's crops today, and you jump in with, "Why is everyone upset? I like the rain."

Perhaps re-reading the last few posts may help you understand. If you still don't, I will be glad to explain this further. <hr /></blockquote>

If the show is entertaining, of course it will benefit pool... more people will want to play the game!!! <hr /></blockquote>

This, of course, is what I've already said. However, you've again ignored what was previously discussed. It's as if you're now saying, "Rain is good. Let it rain". Thus, I'll just take it you're not willing to think through or address what I previously posted. Not showing a whole lot of depth there Tduck.

Thunderduck
06-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Maybe Im just confused by your reference to "givers" and "takers"... you'd have to elaborate, because as far as I know, the pool world is made up of "players"... what are you worried about exactly? Your post was completely unspecific..

p.s. I like rain /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

1Time
06-21-2005, 10:32 PM
Hardly, and this is just for the sake of a simplistic response. The world is made up of "bangers" and "players". If you already don't know the difference, you're probably a "banger". And, if you don't already know the difference between a "giver" and a "taker", you're probably the later. Those "players" who are "givers" (and they know who they are) are in the best position to better the sport. Adding more "bangers" to pool halls will not necessarily better the sport as you suggest (even if you do like rain). Rather, I maintain this show likely will present the opportunity for the sport to grow and improve. At this point I'm just going to assume you understand what I'm saying and leave it at that. I hope you share your experience with your next pool lesson real soon.

Thunderduck
06-22-2005, 12:35 AM
Actually, no offense, but I have absolutely no idea what your concern is... a bunch of people watch pool on tv, and are inspired to go out and play more pool. Some will become good players and others probably will play a little and lose interest. Whatever the quality of these people's characters is completely determined by other factors... what are you expecting them to "give" or "take"? No clue what you mean... Really the only people who have something to give are very experienced good players... some become teachers and you pay them for advice. I've personally had nobody give me anything in a pool hall like free advice...

please give me an example of someone who has "taken" from the game. then give me an example of the average pool player who "gives" to the game. Only a real example will clarify what you mean...

1Time
06-22-2005, 01:33 AM
Sorry T-Duck. I gave this some thought and concluded a couple of specific examples would not suffice. Further, my abiliy to explain this in text is falling too short of your ability or willingness to grasp what I'm saying. Dispute this if you like, no problem. Nonetheless, it's been fun chatting with you even though it may have been fruitless. Again, please post soon with what you've learned from your next pool lesson. I'd be interested. Thanks

dutchboy
06-22-2005, 01:13 PM
My oh my, it's really been interesting watching you two duke it out over my post. Here's all I say, screw this givers and takers crap...the rooms I play in NYC, throw these people out the first time they act up. There dangerous and stupid and know one in their right mind believes that they will improve, grow or influence the game in anyway. Good players wont play on a table next to them. I've seen top players pack up and call it a day after being insulted by the antics of "bangers". And I've never witnessed any top player walk around the room and try to "educate" the moronic public on pool room etiquette. The only advise I've ever seen is given to those mature worthy players who go about their work day after day and have earned the respect of these men and women. As for all the others? Well, the only good thing about them is walking out the door and never coming back. But anyway, thanks for the lively discussion, it's been very entertaining.

1Time
06-22-2005, 06:14 PM
I'm glad you followed along and enjoyed it; might as well have some fun. Of course if anyone acts up too much just about anywhere (player, banger, whatever), they're thrown out. Your pool hall simply filters out the "takers" better than most I've been in. However, that hardly discounts the fact that there are "givers" and "takers", and that the "givers" are in the best position to better the sport. Oh, and by virtue of filtering out the "takers", your pool hall itself is functioning as a "giver", thereby improving the sport. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Pool halls and sporting events alike enforce their own limits as to how much crap they'll take from their "takers", with of course profit often being their primary motive. It serves to discourage the selfish (taking) behavior of their "taking" customers who otherwise may act up too much. &lt;insert a visualization of the movie "Road House" here&gt;.

From what I've seen, pool halls and sporting events alike over look a lot of stuff from their "takers", just to keep the money coming. A few pool halls will cater mainly to their "players" but nearly all that I've seen try to strike a balance so they can get as much money as they can from everyone. The pool hall I frequent caters heavily to the "bangers". I assume so because there are so many of them and they easily bring in the lyon's share of their profit.

Again, who else but the "givers" could better this sport?

Jakal
06-23-2005, 11:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 1Time:</font><hr>
Again, who else but the "givers" could better this sport? <hr /></blockquote>

The question in itself is rhetorical. Obviously only "givers" could better the sport since improving the sport would generally require a contribution of some form, hence the term "givers".

I think the important thing to remember is that irregardless of whether we like "banger" and/or "takers" we do need them. Most current players, more than likely, started off as one and then over time started to obtain appreciation and respect for the game. After we get these individuals to join our "pool cult" /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif then the cycle starts over and hopefully the newbies will convert other "bangers" and "takers" and the circle of pool life will continue and grow.

Thunderduck
06-23-2005, 11:31 PM
A "banger" is a British expression for hot dog... is this what you are referring to?

theinel
06-24-2005, 02:43 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> A "banger" is a British expression for hot dog... is this what you are referring to? <hr /></blockquote>
I thought it was a sausage. Sorry that's all I have to add but it's been a rough night for me. Seriously more people, even bangers, is good for the pool halls because they make a little more money and hopefully stay open longer but bangers in general are never going to help pool any other way.

Thunderduck
06-25-2005, 12:20 AM
Ok, seriously, what's a "banger" ?

theinel
06-25-2005, 01:18 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> Ok, seriously, what's a "banger" ?<hr /></blockquote>I only know the expression from ordering "bangers and mash" at Irish bars. All of the ones I've been to serve up sausages and mashed potatoes which are delicious if not necessarily all that healthy for you but once a year on Saint Patrick's day can't be all that bad for you.

If you are talking pool then it's someone that hits all shots very hard.

If you're kidding then /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

cycopath
06-25-2005, 07:51 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> Ok, seriously, what's a "banger" ?
<hr /></blockquote>

Me.

1Time
06-25-2005, 06:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote theinel:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> Ok, seriously, what's a "banger" ?<hr /></blockquote>
If you are talking pool then it's someone that hits all shots very hard.<hr /></blockquote>

No, I'm sorry... but that was a good try.

Would anyone else care to play along?

Thunderduck
06-26-2005, 01:19 AM
I stole a piece of chalk from a pool hall tonight, guess that makes me a "taker"...

This conversation doesnt make any sense to me...

1Time
06-26-2005, 09:18 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote 1Time:</font><hr>
Again, who else but the "givers" could better this sport? <hr /></blockquote>

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jakal:</font><hr>
The question in itself is rhetorical. Obviously only "givers" could better the sport since improving the sport would generally require a contribution of some form, hence the term "givers".<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, my question is rhetorical. I asked it as a way of restating my main point, which unfortunately is not so apparently true to others as it is to you.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jakal:</font><hr>
I think the important thing to remember is that irregardless of whether we like "banger" and/or "takers" we do need them. Most current players, more than likely, started off as one and then over time started to obtain appreciation and respect for the game. After we get these individuals to join our "pool cult" /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif then the cycle starts over and hopefully the newbies will convert other "bangers" and "takers" and the circle of pool life will continue and grow. <hr /></blockquote>

You've made an argument for the propagation of the species (pool banger/player) and the growth of the sport. However, I sure would not want the existance and growth of our sport to depend on a hope that newbies would convert other "bangers" and "takers". That's surely the blind leading the blind.

And, as for needing "bangers" to grow the sport (or propagate the species), it's not like the sport would become extinct or could not grow without "bangers". Of couse the sport would not be as popular if it were not made up of both "bangers" and "players". The sport just would be better with more "givers", whether "bangers" or "players".

To clarify, although "bangers" are potential "players", not everyone starts the sport as a "banger", and both may contribute to the growth of the sport. However, it remains the "givers" who are in the best position better the sport. Alas, growth of the sport is not necessarily better for the sport. Hmm...

No, I maintain it is much more relavant and important to remember who will better the sport... the "givers". Again, although this TV show about pool likely will bring more "bangers" to the pool halls, I maintain the "givers" will be in the best position to better the sport from any such influx.

1Time
06-26-2005, 09:20 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thunderduck:</font><hr> I stole a piece of chalk from a pool hall tonight, guess that makes me a "taker"...

<hr /></blockquote>

I believe that's known as petty theft, punishable by some who frequent pool halls... with a chuckle.

mapman72
06-27-2005, 08:57 AM
Weren't we all bangers at one time even if we're now players? Stop acting like such an elitist. If you were that much of a player, I'm sure you'd be out playing pool somewhere and not writing to this forum. The sport needs people to walk in the door as bangers and develop into players - and, hopefully, not turn into arrogant jerks that criticize new and creative ways to market the sport.

1Time
06-27-2005, 09:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mapman72:</font><hr> Weren't we all bangers at one time even if we're now players? <hr /></blockquote>

No, but most of us did start out as bangers including myself back in 1970. However, not everyone begins the sport as a banger.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mapman72:</font><hr> Stop acting like such an elitist. If you were that much of a player, I'm sure you'd be out playing pool somewhere and not writing to this forum. <hr /></blockquote>

I'm a fairly strong 9 ball player, however I'm also a regular 9 to 5 guy and keep plenty busy. As some of my previous threads indicate, I usually only find time to play a couple of hours each weekend. Most here seem to encourage participation in this forum by better and more knowledgeable players. So, aside from misunderstanding what I've written, I'm not really sure what your issue is with my posts.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mapman72:</font><hr>
The sport needs people to walk in the door as bangers and develop into players - and, hopefully, not turn into arrogant jerks that criticize new and creative ways to market the sport. <hr /></blockquote>

You've misunderstood; as I've clearly made an argument for this new TV show about pool, which I agree is a new and creative way to market the sport. I'm all for it and never said a bad word about it. Perhaps re-reading my posts could help you see that. And, I've not in anyway indicated the sport could not benefit from more bangers walking in the door and developing into players. And by the way, if I called someone a jerk after misunderstanding what they've written, I certainly would feel like an even bigger jerk if I did not promptly apologize in the very same public forum. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif