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SnakebyteXX
07-08-2005, 05:44 AM
Associated Press

SINGAPORE Baseball and softball weren't big hits among International Olympic Committee members.

Both American-invented sports were dropped today from the program for the 2012 Olympics in London the first events cut from the Summer Games in 69 years. The IOC couldn't immediately agree on their replacements.

Each of the 28 existing sports was put to a secret vote by the IOC, and baseball and softball failed to receive a majority required to stay on the program. The other 26 sports made the cut.

The IOC then voted from a waiting list of five sports: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. Squash and karate won the ballots, but then were rejected in final confirmation votes, which required two-thirds majorities.

Baseball and softball, which will remain on the program for the 2008 Beijing Games, are the first sports eliminated from the Olympics since polo in 1936. IOC president Jacques Rogge said the two sports would be eligible to win their way back onto the Olympic program for 2016.

"I feel like somebody who has been thrown out it's certainly not a good feeling," said Aldo Notari, the Italian president of the international baseball federation. "I don't think the IOC members know our sport deeply enough. But we'll continue to survive. We're looking ahead to Beijing and putting on a good show."

Baseball, which became a medal sport in 1992, has been vulnerable because of the performance-enhancing drugs problem in the United States and top major league players don't play in the Olympics. Softball, a women's medal sport since 1996 that the U.S. has won all three times, has been in danger because of a perceived lack of global appeal and participation.

The absence of major league stars is a big issue for the IOC, which wants the world's top athletes from all sports in the games.

"The lack of the MLB players I think people have looked and said, 'Well, all right, if there's to be a change, that seems to be the logic of it,'" British IOC member Craig Reedie said.

Baseball's steroid problem in the United States was cited as another factor. While Major League Baseball has toughened its drug-testing programs, they still fall far short of Olympic standards.

"Problems with doping in U.S. baseball probably cost the sport dearly," Australian IOC member John Coates said.

Several IOC members also cited high stadium costs associated with both sports, saying baseball and softball venues have little post-games use in some host cities.

"I think they've made a big, big mistake," said Tommy Lasorda, the former Dodgers manager who guided the U.S. team to the gold medal in the 2000 Sydney Games. "Baseball is played by all countries now, and softball, too. I think that's really going to hurt the Olympics. I don't want to knock the other sports, but I think this is a big mistake. I am very disappointed."

Don Porter, the American president of the international softball federation, was devastated by the vote.

"We thought that we had a lot of support," he said. "The members told us we were getting support, but obviously we weren't."


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Rich R.
07-08-2005, 06:57 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote SnakebyteXX:</font><hr>The absence of major league stars is a big issue for the IOC, which wants the world's top athletes from all sports in the games.<hr /></blockquote>
What ever happened to the concept of the Olympics being the main competition for amateur athletes? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

At one time, if they found out that a player was paid $10 for playing a game, they would take their medals away.

Now, they drop sports because they are not attracting the major league, multi million dollar, players.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I would like to see the Olympics go back to the amateur competition that it once was.

The only concession I would make, is to allow the athletes to make money by endorsing products or otherwise making money off of their name. I understand that they have to make a living. However, professional players should not be allowed to compete in the Olympics. JMHO.

Harold Acosta
07-09-2005, 10:28 AM
I second that thought Rich. Ever since the Pro's were allowed, the Olympic spirit has spiraled down the drains.

Tom_In_Cincy
07-09-2005, 11:35 AM
Growing up in the 50s and 60s, when all Olympic atheletes were amatures, I would normally agree that it should remain an 'Amature' event.

But, when you know that the amatures are not the 'best' in the world, just the 'best' of the amatures, it's just not the same.

But, when the pros play against the amatures (i.e. USA Basketball pros) it was so lop-sided it was a joke.

I think the IOC made it a 'weak' excuse that the pro baseball players from the USA didn't show, and attendence was a reason to dump it.

Is there a PRO fast pitch Women's softball league?

It is all about the money... how much does the IOC want to make? enough to carry on the events? or more than enough to subsidize their control?

Now to Billiards.... maybe in 2056 or later..... but not in our lifetime.