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RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 04:53 AM
Well, I guess I missed the forum post or else the AzBilliards website is down, temporarily I hope. And I've got the Monday Morning News Blues. I keep clicking my mouse, hoping to find a snippet of what happened this past weekend around the States.

Of course, the 16-year-old Wu is the new WPC champion. What a story, history in the making. Best WPC ever! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I read on Tony Crosby's website that Rob Saez won the Florida Pro 10-Ball Tour, pocketing $3,200 I think. Tony's been keeping folks up to date about the happenings he's attending. http://www.tonycrosby.com

The Hampton Ridge Tour I think had a one-day event at Master's Billiards in NYC yesterday, Sunday, but I don't know the outcome.

Master's is going to be the host pool room for the upcoming $15,000-added Big Apple event in mid August, right before the Joss Tour Season Finale at Turning Stone Casino, August 18-21.

So many events are happening this August-September time frame, and that's a good thing, especially for those of us on the East Coast.

Anybody got any pool news for Monday morning? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

RailbirdJAM

randyg
07-11-2005, 04:59 AM
Thank you. I like that...randyg

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 05:17 AM
I'm still reeling in the celebration of the new Taiwanese champion, a 16-year-old named Wu. The coverage on the WPC website was the BEST, bar none, I had ever experienced.

On the WPC forum, Harold Acosta asked if anybody had any pictures, and a poster put up two links.

http://www.onthehill.jp/e-top.html
http://www.onthehill.jp/2005wpc/day-9.html

The second link is really cool, and if you click on each day of the event, you can catch some nice pictures of all of the WPC competitors, to include the Americans. The Country of Taiwan went all out for this event. Even the McDonald's advertised the WPC, depicting a pool table on their paper bags.

The Philippino super stars didn't make the finals, though American Rodney Morris got the bronze. I read that the environmental conditions in Taiwan were somewhat different than what Americans are used to, tight-pocketed tables, little to no air-conditioning, and not very many English-speaking staff. I am anxious to hear from the players themselves upon return what their WPC experience was like.

How about that Florida 10-Ball Tour, with 7-, 8-, and $10,000-added events. Florida is the place to be for pool players. Quite a few heavy-hitters reside there now, too!

RailbirdJAM

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 07:12 AM
Just heard from TD Jose in reference to the Hampton Ridge Tour which took place at Master's on Queens Boulevard West in New York City.

Dennis Spears came in first place, Tony "Flaco" Rodriquez came in second, and New York City's best-kept secret, Eddie "Spanish Pete" Vasquez came in third. Frankie Hernandez showed up fashionably late, but had to forfeit a first-round match! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

There was also a Tri-State event happening at Amsterdam Billiards, but I do not know the results.

Just some more Monday morning pool news!

RailbirdJAM

Barbara
07-11-2005, 07:27 AM
Hey JAM, I just got this email from Rick Molineiro at Bill and Billies:

Bill & Billie’s CuesPort Presents:

2005 Maryland “Open”
14.1 Straight Pool Championship.

August – 5, 6 & 7th.

Entry Fee: $100.00
Format: Double – Elimination 125 on Winners side, 100 on losers side. Finals one race to 150.

************************************

Winner Advances with paid entry to:

Comet Billiards
Parsippany, NJ. State Championship
Sept, 30th – Oct, 2nd.

For more Info contact: Richard Molineiro, Levi@toad.net

Send Check to: Bill & Billie’s CuesPort, 1244 Ritchie Hwy. Suite # 4. Arnold, MD. 21012
410-544-8185

Players Meeting: 10:00 am / August 5th

Dress Code: No Exceptions! Dress Slacks, Collared Shirt, No Tennis Shoes.

$1,000 ADDED!

Tournament is limited to ONLY 32 players.

Payouts (based on 32 players) are as follows:

1st - $1,100 plus $300 pre-paid entry.

2nd - $750

3rd - $500

4th - $350

5th - 6th $250

7th - 8th $150

9th -12th $75

Tournament High Run - $100


Barbara

Tom_In_Cincy
07-11-2005, 07:28 AM
Marlon Manalo (top 4 of recent WPC) will be returning to the USA to compete in the Big Apple event and then the US Open.
Sources close to the Philipino player revealed yesterday.

The 'new' Philipino contingent will include Santos, Jose, Marlon and a 'new' player on his first visit to the USA.

Marlon placed 5th-6th in last May's BCA Pro event, 2nd in California Billiard Club's Reno Open warm-up, 1st in the Reno open and 1st in the Hard Times Jamboree 9 ball event. Not bad for his first visit to the USA. Plus he won the $4800 ring game at Hard Times. All together Mr. Manalo took in around $30,000 for his 4 week visit.

Eric.
07-11-2005, 07:38 AM
Marlon looks like the real deal. I watched him play via the Internet this past weekend and he's got serious game. In the "knock out stage", he had an amazing run of 23 straight wins over 3 matches. He drilled two players 10-0 and 11-0. In the 10-0 match, the opponent shot 3 times and all kicks!


Eric

Rich R.
07-11-2005, 08:38 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> Bill &amp; Billie’s CuesPort Presents:

2005 Maryland “Open”
14.1 Straight Pool Championship.

August – 5, 6 &amp; 7th.

Entry Fee: $100.00
Format: Double – Elimination 125 on Winners side, 100 on losers side. Finals one race to 150.
<hr /></blockquote>
Barbara, thanks for this information.
I may have to stop by for the finals of this tournament. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 09:55 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr>Hey JAM, I just got this email from Rick Molineiro at Bill and Billies....<hr /></blockquote>

Folks are talking about this event. I just ran into D.C. player Jack M. yesterday at Starbucks, and he mentioned it to me. I know Ryan "Genie Man" McCreesh is planning on going. He is a straight-pool lover and is looking forward to it.

Bill and Billie's in Arnold, MD also has two fine snooker tables, well maintained and the only snooker tables in the D.C. metro area.

This is a very nice pool room, a good atmosphere, family-friendly and chockful of pool enthusiasts, players, and railbirds like me! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Coincidentally, I am planning on going there today for the weekly Monday night tournament. If I find out any more info about the straight pool event, like who's in and how many spots are left, I'll report back! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

RailbirdJAM

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 09:59 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> Marlon Manalo (top 4 of recent WPC) will be returning to the USA to compete in the Big Apple event and then the US Open...The 'new' Philipino contingent will include Santos, Jose, Marlon and a 'new' player on his first visit to the USA.<hr /></blockquote>

Oh, joy, the Philippino Invasion II! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr>Marlon placed 5th-6th in last May's BCA Pro event, 2nd in California Billiard Club's Reno Open warm-up, 1st in the Reno open and 1st in the Hard Times Jamboree 9 ball event. Not bad for his first visit to the USA. Plus he won the $4800 ring game at Hard Times. All together Mr. Manalo took in around $30,000 for his 4 week visit. <hr /></blockquote>
Barring any savers /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif [inside AzBilliards joke], that's a mighty fine haul!

RailbirdJAM

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 10:01 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Eric.:</font><hr> Marlon looks like the real deal. I watched him play via the Internet this past weekend and he's got serious game. In the "knock out stage", he had an amazing run of 23 straight wins over 3 matches. He drilled two players 10-0 and 11-0. In the 10-0 match, the opponent shot 3 times and all kicks! <hr /></blockquote>

I am looking forward to seeing Marvelous Marlon Manalo compete in person sometime soon. Isn't it amazing that the new 2005 WPC Champion, 16-year-old Wu, went through him like Swiss cheese, 11 to 2 (I think)? /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I can hardly wait for the Taiwanese Invasion! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

RailbirdJAM

JimS
07-11-2005, 10:20 AM
HEY!!!... watch that "saver" stuff!! Savers are unethical (yeah I know... I was instructed to leave the ethics at the door) /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Steve Lipsky
07-11-2005, 10:36 AM
Wow, I'm a little surprised this tournament (the Maryland 14.1 Open) is receiving so much interest. When the flyer found its way to me, I took one look at the format and decided that I wouldn't make the trek.

It is nothing personal, as I've never been to the room and I don't know the owner(s). But state championship straight pool tournaments should not be decided in games to 125, and (worse) 100 on the loser's side. That is simply too short.

- Steve

Eric.
07-11-2005, 11:36 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RailbirdJAM:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Eric.:</font><hr> Marlon looks like the real deal. I watched him play via the Internet this past weekend and he's got serious game. In the "knock out stage", he had an amazing run of 23 straight wins over 3 matches. He drilled two players 10-0 and 11-0. In the 10-0 match, the opponent shot 3 times and all kicks! <hr /></blockquote>

I am looking forward to seeing Marvelous Marlon Manalo compete in person sometime soon. Isn't it amazing that the new 2005 WPC Champion, 16-year-old Wu, went through him like Swiss cheese, 11 to 2 (I think)? /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I can hardly wait for the Taiwanese Invasion! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

RailbirdJAM <hr /></blockquote>

Jennie,

It is amazing. Marlon had been on fire at that point. He didn't dog it against Wu either. He just flat out, got beat.

I just made another post regarding the "Taiwanese Invasion";

http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccboard/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=ccb&amp;Number=200161&amp;page =0&amp;view=expanded&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1#Post200139

It should be interesting. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Eric

RailbirdJAM
07-11-2005, 01:43 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Eric.:</font><hr>...It is amazing. Marlon had been on fire at that point. He didn't dog it against Wu either. He just flat out, got beat.

I just made another post regarding the "Taiwanese Invasion";

http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccboard/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Board=ccb&amp;Number=200161&amp;page =0&amp;view=expanded&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1#Post200139

It should be interesting. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif<hr /></blockquote>

Very informative thread. The fact that pool is so prevalent in Taiwan, as it also is in the Philippines, makes me think that the Taiwanese champions won't be making a trek to the States at any time soon. Pool broadcasting real time on TV, it doesn't get any better than that. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

The grass ain't greener on our side of the fence due to the low prevalence of the game/sport in American culture, and with the average money payouts being approximately 10- to $15,000 in high-profile events, the cost to come over to the States would be exhorbitant. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The Philippinos are enjoying their own tournament trail as of late, enjoying the best of the best of all pool worlds. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Even though I have heard good reasoning for the nationality-restricted events on the Asian tournament trail [rendering European and American pool players as ineligible], it does create a division within the worldwide sport of pool (IMO).

The Olympic Committee would have a hard time figuring out how to include pocket billiards on its plate with the multiple tours and governing agencies, not to mention which game, i.e., 14.1, 9-ball, 8-ball, one-pocket, et cetera. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

This year's WPC opened my eyes to world pool, a side I had not seen before. The win by WU is an excellent story and is worthy of media attention. To date, I haven't seen one mention of it on American TV. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

RailbirdJAM

Bob_Jewett
07-11-2005, 02:09 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RailbirdJAM:</font><hr> ...
The Olympic Committee would have a hard time figuring out how to include pocket billiards on its plate with the multiple tours and governing agencies, not to mention which game, i.e., 14.1, 9-ball, 8-ball, one-pocket, et cetera. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
... <hr /></blockquote>
Those are mostly non-issues. It's up to the WCBS to get carom/pool/snooker players to international events, such as the World Games in Duisburg, which starts in two days:

http://www.worldgames2005.de/en/sportarten/praezisionssport/billard/

and it's up to the WPA and the national/regional federations to say who the pool players are.

christopheradams
07-11-2005, 05:21 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote RailbirdJAM:</font><hr>
This year's WPC opened my eyes to world pool, a side I had not seen before. The win by WU is an excellent story and is worthy of media attention. To date, I haven't seen one mention of it on American TV. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

RailbirdJAM <hr /></blockquote>

Pool is treated like WCW/WWE Wrestling with the news agencies, (it doesn't exist), which is a shame. I would love to watch the 6 o clock news and see a few minutes dedicated to who won the WPC. The only time I've seen pool in the newspaper was when they did a story on the mohegan sun hosting the Internatitional challenge of champions. They put it in one year and I haven't seen it since. Not even a little article in the back of the paper.

RailbirdJAM
07-12-2005, 04:02 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Bob_Jewett:</font><hr>...Those are mostly non-issues. It's up to the WCBS to get carom/pool/snooker players to international events, such as the World Games in Duisburg, which starts in two days:...and it's up to the WPA and the national/regional federations to say who the pool players are.<hr /></blockquote>

LOL. They may be non-issues to some, but the above-referenced website sure does look Greek to me! So, in 2 days, a pool happening should have, could have, or would transpired in a town that I can't pronounce, beginning with the letter "D"?! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Just like the recent WPC, a world-class championship tournament with no recognition by America sports media, the event happening in D-Town sure does look like a non-issue to American RailbirdJAM.

RailbirdJAM

RailbirdJAM
07-12-2005, 04:18 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote christopheradams:</font><hr> Pool is treated like WCW/WWE Wrestling with the news agencies, (it doesn't exist), which is a shame. I would love to watch the 6 o clock news and see a few minutes dedicated to who won the WPC. The only time I've seen pool in the newspaper was when they did a story on the mohegan sun hosting the Internatitional challenge of champions. They put it in one year and I haven't seen it since. Not even a little article in the back of the paper.<hr /></blockquote>

It's the same old song, Christopher, in that pocket billiards a/k/a "pool" is not considered a sport in the United States.

Go to Taiwan, and they're advertising upcoming pool events at McDonald's. The irony of it all! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

World-class pool champions can grow old in America, with a wealth of memories, titles, and championship records. Unfortunately, because of the ridiculously low payouts in American pool events, with very few exceptions [ALLEN HOPKINS /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif], that wealth is what they go to the grave with: memories, titles, and championship records. Do you think today's pro pool champions are living high off the hog? They're all like gerbils in a wheel, running as fast as they can, never getting ahead. No exceptions.

The best thing American pool has is the WPBA. I don't know who's responsible for making it strong, but the women have already surpassed the men as far as professional pool. Figures it'd take a woman to get things right. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

BTW, Christopher, package is in the mail as of today, back to you! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

RailbirdJAM