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cgreer00
11-04-2005, 05:14 PM
I went and took a look at this table today. Please take a look at these photos and let me know what you think. It is a Brunswick Monticello II, 8 foot table. It comes with a few crappy sticks and some crappy balls ( I would want to replace them quickly). The table feels very solid, I bumped it with my hip and it hardly budged. I shoook the panels and rolled the balls and the table feels well-built. I have tried to find information about the Monticello series and can't. I assume it is a pretty old table.

The cushions are in great shape, recently covered. The playing surgace is not in that great of shape, but the guy will recover it for free (I pay for the cloth).

He is asking $1100 for the table, plus $150 for delivery and setup (plus recovering the bed). What do you all think? There aren't many decent used tables around here, and the ones that are used are of the Leisure Bay variety.

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Snapshot9
11-04-2005, 06:48 PM
I am not all that knowledgable about tables, but I do believethe Monticello was a cheaper style, and not very popular, and originally sold somewhere in the 1500-1800 ramge. It is banged some. Just my opinion, I wouldn't buy it unless he knocked off about $200.

Bassn7
11-04-2005, 10:13 PM
The $150 to install and recloth is OK, but the table is a deal at $600, not $1,100.

BigRigTom
11-05-2005, 09:09 AM
I see this table worth about $600 also but NOT $1100. You say not too many used tables around here but were is "here"? There are probably a lot more than you realize...there certainly was a lot more by me than I realized before I started looking hard.
When you move a used pool table you almost always have to replace the cloth and when you replace the cloth any good installer will recover the cushions too. It will not look right otherwise and you will want to replace the cloth with a good quality cloth too. Most of us will recommend the Simonis 860...a little expensive but worth every penny. The exception to this is a 7' bar table which has 1 piece slate and is made to move with out disassembly.
That table will look great once cleaned up but it is NOT worth $1100 to most people especially since you will have to pay the guy $150 to recover plus buy the cloth.
My table is a Brunswick 8' pro Sierra and I bought it for $250....after I got it cleaned up and recoved it looked great too but still is only worth $900 to $1000..."AFTER SET UP, CLEANED UP & RECOVERED"!
I recommend you keep looking unless this guy wants to lower his price.
What city do you live in and people on this board can give you some ideas where to look.

Good luck

cgreer00
11-05-2005, 10:37 AM
thanks a lot you all, i appreciate the advice. i won't pay that much for the table, i will see if he wants to come down at all. i just talked to a guy that is selling his 3 year old Connelly with nice cues and balls for $900. He said he will work on the price with me. He lives a bit far from me though, so I am going to see if he can email some pics to me. Do you think Connelly makes a nice table? They seem to be one of the better brands.

I live in Milledgeville, GA, about 45 minutes from Macon and about 1:20 from Atlanta. I have been checking the papers, ebay, and the bargainmarts for quite a while now. Most of the tables for sale are of the crappy Chinese variety, I want a well-built table that will get me back in competitive form for playing in tournaments (I have played pool since I was old enough to stand on a milk crate in my parents' house and use a 3 foot long stick to hit the balls).

BigRigTom
11-05-2005, 02:01 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote cgreer00:</font><hr> thanks a lot you all, i appreciate the advice. i won't pay that much for the table, i will see if he wants to come down at all. i just talked to a guy that is selling his 3 year old Connelly with nice cues and balls for $900. He said he will work on the price with me. He lives a bit far from me though, so I am going to see if he can email some pics to me. Do you think Connelly makes a nice table? They seem to be one of the better brands.

I live in Milledgeville, GA, about 45 minutes from Macon and about 1:20 from Atlanta. I have been checking the papers, ebay, and the bargainmarts for quite a while now. Most of the tables for sale are of the crappy Chinese variety, I want a well-built table that will get me back in competitive form for playing in tournaments (I have played pool since I was old enough to stand on a milk crate in my parents' house and use a 3 foot long stick to hit the balls). <hr /></blockquote>

Good thinking on your part, buying a pool table should be a well thought out act. Sounds like you will be playing on it a lot and for a long time. A good table will last a life time and then some. My 74 Brunswick plays a lot like the FAMOUS Gold Crowns and for a fraction of the cost. I would still buy a 9' GC if I had the space.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif...well someday maybe I'll build a rec room...especially after seeing the PettyPoint article from Billiards Digest....that is every pool player's dream room!

Connelly makes great tables but just like the Brunswick you will want to look it the table then compare it with prices of like quality...the name alone does not guarantee a good value. Same advise as before ....ask the people of this forum they all have lots of advise that they are alway anxious to share...he he. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Finally...
Georgia is a great place to live...my Mom, Sister &amp; Brother all live in Cedartown, Ga. (about 168 miles West of you)and now that you made me think of them I have to go and call my Mom....good luck again on getting a great table and who knows maybe we can run into one another someday and see how well we match up on the table ....yours or mine.....either way I love the game too.

Mick56
11-05-2005, 03:51 PM
You could try puting a want ad in the newspaper. There are usually lots of people that have a pool table that is not in use anymore, but don't really think about selling it.

cgreer00
11-06-2005, 01:57 PM
ok
tell me what you think about this table. It is a Connelly Redington, 1" italian slate, comes with balls, sticks, rack, etc. He is asking $900. What should i offer for it?

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Brad
11-07-2005, 01:31 PM
Try rubbing a cue stick across the top of a pocket. You'll see that RC finish come off.

If you buy it, change out the pockets for Hood pockets.

BigRigTom
11-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Looks like a fair price but you have to look at it closely, remember you will have to take it apart to move it and then you should replace the cloth.
I would ask him to include the light or else lower the price at least $100 bucks....if you don't see any problems when you look closely.....buy it.

Sid_Vicious
11-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Frankly, I like that table. The 1" slate and the solid legs plus the complexion convinced me. I'd waste little time getting a mechanic replace that cloth though. I kept the original cloth on my used Brubswick which was about what you have there, and when I did have Simonas installed, WOW! what a new feel. You will surely be looking at final cost of around 1300, plus some aggravation in moving, so just maybe Connely has a new installed table for some equitable difference. Jm2c....sid

Keith Talent
11-08-2005, 01:50 PM
Have you been looking on eBay too? I got a GCI there a couple of months ago for $1100 in central Pennsylvania. I'd think you'd have a shot to get something good, considering you're not all that far from Atlanta.