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Gayle in MD
02-12-2006, 02:13 PM
While hunting for Quaile in Texas, Cheney shot his hunting companion. Damn, it's really hard to tell those quailes from and men!

Gayle in md.

wolfdancer
02-12-2006, 02:28 PM
Gayle, i know your cable is down, so apparently you have not gotten the full story.
To fight the critism and opposition to this admins domestic and foreign policies..... Cheney has kicked off the national right wing "shoot a liberal" campaign.
It looks like the gang that doesn't play straight, can't
even shoot straight.

Quote from the last time a VP shot someone:
XXXX saw XXXX as a clear and present danger, and began a campaign to ruin his reputation, noting that "I never thought him an honest, frank-dealing man, but considered him as a crooked gun, or other perverted machine, whose aim or shot you could never be sure of." XXXX penned perhaps the most devastating comment of all when he added that "A great man in little things, he is really small in great ones."

pooltchr
02-12-2006, 06:50 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> ..... Cheney has kicked off the national right wing "shoot a liberal" campaign.
It looks like the gang that doesn't play straight, can't
even shoot straight.
<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah..I hate that all that good buck-shot got wasted on a republican. (Must have been...no self respecting liberal would go into the woods with Cheney holding a shotgun!) And if he WAS a liberal, then maybe Cheney CAN shoot straight!
Steve

Drop1
02-12-2006, 09:43 PM
No problem the other guy was a Republican. I hear Big Dick is going to switch to paint ball guns. At last someone in this administration did the right thing. All kidding aside,it is good to know the man who was shot will be alright. It was an accident that could have happened to anyone,anywhere. And no I don't promote shooting Republicans. Nice shot Dick /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wolfdancer
02-12-2006, 09:54 PM
Gayle,thinking that Dick shot a Dem, to get even, Ted Kennedy is out in his car looking for Dan Quayle.
I thought the Brady Bill was supposed to keep guns out of the hands of irresponsible people

Gayle in MD
02-12-2006, 10:49 PM
BWA HA HA HA HA....Well, I hope he doesn't forget to look both ways before he rushes out ot his car to look for Quale, Luara might run over him on her way to pick up Dick's road kill....Dick Cheney is so spooky looking, I hope he doesn't take the guy home and eat him. I mean REALLY, I've heard of those Texas bar-b-que's, but this is ridiculous! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gayle in Md.

pooltchr
02-13-2006, 04:31 AM
Don't you be makin fun of our road kill appatite! It's a southern thing...you wouldn't understand.

Did you know that on I-77 traveling through West Virginia, there is a restaurant called "The Road Kill Cafe'"?
Never could bring myself to stop in there.......

Steve

dg-in-centralpa
02-13-2006, 05:51 AM
Gayle,
In defense of the VEEP, this could happen. My cousin was shot while hunting doves. He was just over a small hill, as he came over the top, doves were spooked, and his friend shot, hitting my cousin in the chest and face. He was about 30 yards away. No damage and he's still alive. Really, it can happen.

DG-both gave up hunting afterwards

eg8r
02-13-2006, 06:09 AM
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In defense of the VEEP, this could happen. <hr /></blockquote> This was a dumb mistake, let the libs have their glory. It is nice to be able to throw them a bone every once in a while. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Too bad for the guy that got shot, I am happy he will recover.

eg8r

wolfdancer
02-13-2006, 06:46 AM
eg8r, a hunting accident is not a political event. That it involved the VP, and the fact that the other guy was not seriously hurt...hopefully....well, you have to expect a few wisecracks.
You guys have been gloating, gloating over the Mary Jo tragedy for years now.

Fran Crimi
02-13-2006, 07:36 AM
If they were shooting clay pigeons this would never have happened. Anyone who hunts deserves to get their butts shot up with buckshot. Hunting these days is done strictly for the joy of killing helpless animals.

Hunters should hang their heads in shame and they should all come back reincarnated as the prey they hunt.

Fran

Rich R.
02-13-2006, 07:36 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> This was a dumb mistake, let the libs have their glory. It is nice to be able to throw them a bone every once in a while. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>
And what would you be saying, if this involved Al Gore and one of the Hollywood type, Democratic supporters? /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SnakebyteXX
02-13-2006, 07:38 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> ...hopefully....well, you have to expect a few wisecracks.
You guys have been gloating, gloating over the Mary Jo tragedy for years now.
<hr /></blockquote>

You don't really think people will be trying to poke fun at this near tragedy do you? Shame on them if they do.

http://a.im.craigslist.org/j3/6y/fNnVuh2BjGTJAW0D8n3yoyYCYDJz.jpg

Qtec
02-13-2006, 07:53 AM
canned hunt (http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/wayne_pacelle_the_animal_advocate/cheneys_canned_kill_and_other_hunting_excesses_of_ the_bush_administration.html)

Tells you a lot about the guy.

Q

Fran Crimi
02-13-2006, 08:56 AM
You don't think socialists hunt? Hunting crosses all party lines.

You don't think there's a difference between going after an animal in the wild and breeding them for hunting, do you? Last time I checked, the pain of the gunshot is felt just as much by the animal either way.

Anyone who hunts should really stop and rethink what they're doing and why they're doing it.

Fran

Gayle in MD
02-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Honey, believe me, you are are talking to a woman who know's all about hunting. And also, a woman who can't kill even a cricket. All insects are safely lifted outside to my porch, and encouraged to fly or crawl away to safety. However, I will reiterate a true story to you, which I posted here years ago.

My husband, Jim, used to be a hunter, years ago, before he became a man who lost his appreciation for the sport of killing animals, and bacme a fisherman, who throws most fish back, and photographs nature instead. He is now also a cricket savior, but was an avid hunter throughout his twenties and early thirties, until the day he had to cut the throat of a deer which he had killed with his bow and arrow, and that was the end of hunting for Jim.

A few years before that, since I am a nature lover. Our first boat was a canoe, which I still love. A friend of ours, also an avid hunter, owned some property on Nanjamoy Creek, in Marylands beautiful rural countryside. Jim was to go Duck hunting with him, and knowing how I love the outdoors, the two of them convinced me that I should take up hunting. It seemed no amount of persausion could convince them that while I love the outdoors, I have no appetite for killing, even a spider, and it really goes completely against my spiritual nature, however, they were both so enthused about having me along, not only for canoe trips, and camping, which I love, but "You'll love Duck Hunting Gayle! Wait till you see this beautiful beaver pond we found!"

So, after a month or so of teaching me how to shoot a shot gun, off we went, duck hunting, with yours truly secretly knowing there was no way in hell that I would actually kill anything!

It was in January, freezing cold, in a slight flurry of snow when we embarked in Denny's john boat, accross the beautiful Nanjamoy Creek, and I was absolutely in heaven, and definately in my element, having a wonder time, with Denny's golden retriever snuggled close to my side. When we arrived at the beaver pond, it was mid afternoon, and we had a wonderful time, sharing sandwiches and drinking coffee, and I was completely facinated by the mud carved beaver community, with its little tunnels leading to the little beaver huts, and dammed pools of crystal clear water, and beavers backing up to smack their tails, as if to say, "You're trespassing, get out!"

Of course, I knew all along that when the cute little ducks came, I certainly wasn't going to hurt them. I had figured that since we would be spread out a bit, later in the day, I could just shoot at the sky, and they'd never know that I wasn't taking aim.

After a time, we got out of the boat, I was abandoned by my warm furry pal, and there was I, crouched in my hip boots, hidden in the beaver pond behind the brush, getting colder by the minute, and hearing soft assurances from accross the pond, "it'll just be a few more minutes, they'll be here soon" followeed by, "Are you cold?"

The longer we waited for the damn ducks, the colder I got, and by the time we heard them honking towards us, I was so mad they had taken so long in arriving, for a moment or two, I thought I just might shoot 'em, but I soon changed my mind once they were in sight, and I was in awe. One wouldn't think that ducks could look so beautiful against a deep purple winter sky, with snow flakes in view, and the backdrop of the natural beauty of the creek. I was happy again, and content to wait and watch.

It had been pre-arranged that I would recieve a signal from my fellow hunters from accross the pond, so when my time came to shoot, I simply closed my eyes, aimed straight up to the sky, and shot my arse off, knowing that they would be so involved in their own kill, they'd never know.

It was all over in just a few, and just when I was about to retrieve my, ah hem, "Smoke" from my pack, to celebrate the success of my little farce, here they came, both shouting and splashing their way towards me, praising me all the way, and draggin "MY" duck along, with their Kudos!

Well I'll tell you, I am no phoney, but there was no way in hell that I was going to disappoint them, so proud were they of my achievment, my first duck!

If I hadn't been trying to hide how upset I was, seeing the dead duck and all, and knowing I had killed it, or so they kept telling me, with puffed chests, and back slaps that almost landed me in the pond, I think I probably would have laughed my *** off, but it was all over now, and I just decided to keep this little secret to myself, and try to forget those black eyes, which stared me down, asking, "How could you Gayle? And I was such a pretty little duck." I'll tell ya, that was the best toke off the pipe I ever had, after that!

Home we went, and I vowed to never think about it again, but everytime someone came over, Jim would brag once again, about his sharp shooter, I was a regular Annie Oakley...."And her very first shot! Never been duck hunting before! What a trooper!" and I would smile, sort a, and was very humble, naturally,.... I was LIAR! Me! A complete phoney!

When my birthday rolled along, in February, I had just about gotten over it, atleast I wasn't waking up in the middle of the night, seeing those little black resentful eyes, anymore. Denny was coming for dinner, and friends were arriving with gifts for me, the liar! Jim went out to Denny's truck after dinner, and came in with a big box, my surprise birthday gift, and I just knew it was something really good, right, I WAS Annie Oakley, after all.

You Guessed it, it was the damn duck, stuffed! Now I have to look at it for the rest of my life!!!!

The moral of the story is, it doesn't pay to lie! /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Gayle in Md.

Deeman3
02-13-2006, 10:13 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Fran Crimi:</font><hr> You don't think socialists hunt? Hunting crosses all party lines.

You don't think there's a difference between going after an animal in the wild and breeding them for hunting, do you? Last time I checked, the pain of the gunshot is felt just as much by the animal either way.

Anyone who hunts should really stop and rethink what they're doing and why they're doing it.

Fran <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> Fran,

I hunted all my life. However, about 10 years ago I decided I liked the act of hunting more than the killing of animals so I now just go out with my gun and a camera. I carry the gun to keep my relatives from hounding me but I don't even load up anymore. I decided that it was more approprite when we all ate the wild game I killed but now, only a few of us would eat it anyway. For any of you that hunt but don't enjoy it as much as in the past, I can't recommend anything better than sitting in the morning sunrise and watching nature and can't think of anything more bothersome than having to drag a 175 lb. deer all the way to the truck.

I still support it as an activity but just personally don't feel the need to shoot animals anymore. I don't see much difference in eating a deer that was shot or a cow that was hammered in the head or a soybean that was trapped in a combine.

When I was younger I was invited to a few "raised for hunting events" but never participated as I believe true hunting is a challenge and should remain so. It is a good lesson fathers can teach their sons if done respectfuly and properly. I know some of you will never agree with hunting but I still think it can be a noble activity.


Deeman
now shoots at paper..... </font color>

eg8r
02-13-2006, 10:29 AM
[ QUOTE ]
And what would you be saying, if this involved Al Gore and one of the Hollywood type, Democratic supporters? <hr /></blockquote> It would be a dumb mistake now let the Cons have their glory.

eg8r

eg8r
02-13-2006, 10:32 AM
[ QUOTE ]
eg8r, a hunting accident is not a political event. That it involved the VP, and the fact that the other guy was not seriously hurt...hopefully....well, you have to expect a few wisecracks.
You guys have been gloating, gloating over the Mary Jo tragedy for years now.
<hr /></blockquote> I do expect the wisecracks and look forward to hearing some. Hopefully they are more clever than the last time you posted a "funny" quote. However, I do not gloat over the death of another human being. The biggest difference here is that the guy Cheney shot will get his chance to say something in the press...Have you heard anything from Mary Jo???? I did not think so.

eg8r

Fran Crimi
02-13-2006, 11:02 AM
Well said, Dee. I'm glad to hear you changed your position on hunting, at least for yourself, however, I do disagree in that I feel there are better options available to teach values to one's son.

As for the whole hunting for food thing, I struggle with the whole concept of killing animals for food. We really don't need to eat animals. I try not to as much as possible, but I cave-in once in awhile and try not to think about how they're slaughtered. But frankly, the whole thing is sickening and barbaric. We can get all the nutrition we need from eating plants.

I could be wrong, but I don't think soybeans feel pain. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Fran

eg8r
02-13-2006, 11:55 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I could be wrong, but I don't think soybeans feel pain. <hr /></blockquote> It pains me to eat soybeans. LOL, my pain takes precedence so bring on the steak. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r

wolfdancer
02-13-2006, 12:15 PM
I'm not sure which is worse...your writing skills, or lack thereof, or your reading comprehension. While people can't figure out what you mean, when you post....it's also obvious that you can't get the gist of anyone else's. Have you considered taking an ESL class?
The quote, by the way, was not meant to be funny....it was in ref to Burr/Hamilton....I did think that some of the remarks fit the VP, but that's just my view.
"You guys" was not meant to not refer to you personally....
It is a euphamism for all the people that have made a joke of the tragedy these many years.

"Have you heard anything from Mary Jo???? I did not think so."
Mencken was right: "Never overestimate the intelligence of the extremist right".

Deeman3
02-13-2006, 12:55 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Fran Crimi:</font><hr> I could be wrong, but I don't think soybeans feel pain. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Fran <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> Fran,

I am wanting to stay away from the "do soybeans or Mary Jo Kopekne feel pain", issue. The dozens of women raped, murdered, molested and drowned on the Kennedy estate has no bearing nor comparison to the ones obvioulsy being hidden on the Bush ranch. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gifHowever, If you'll give me the nod on weather ten year old scotch and young women have had miserable luck in the company of Ted, I'll admit I've never heard a soybean nor even a toufu paddy scream out in agony. </font color>

Deeman
Ted Kennedy, giving back 'til it hurts..........someone...

wolfdancer
02-13-2006, 01:18 PM
and here I thought that Tv series "Quantum Leap" had been cancelled.

wolfdancer
02-13-2006, 01:39 PM
Good story !!!
Somehow it reminded me of an incident in Reno,Nv some years back. Traffic stopped in both directions on the busy Mill St. to let a mallard and hen cross the street. One lady decided she was too important to wait, pulled out and gunned it killing the mallard. She just made a right turn and kept going
It was amazing to see so many people concerned over a pair of ducks.
In the bay area, and Snakebyte will attest to this.....they would both be dead, soon as they stepped off the curb.

SPetty
02-13-2006, 02:54 PM
I heard a new rendition of "Cheney's Got A Gun" (sung to the tune of Janie's Got a Gun) on the radio this morning. Funny.

Check out the new Dick Cheney Quail Hunt web game:
http://dickcheneyquailhunt.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

Looking forward to late night T.V. tonight...

Barbara
02-13-2006, 05:04 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> eg8r, a hunting accident is not a political event. That it involved the VP, and the fact that the other guy was not seriously hurt...hopefully....well, you have to expect a few wisecracks.
You guys have been gloating, gloating over the Mary Jo tragedy for years now.
<hr /></blockquote>

And well yeah, the Dems are now calling out the White House for not reporting this incident to the press immediately after.

Geez!! At least they didn't wait for two days like Teddy Boy did!

Barbara

nAz
02-13-2006, 05:36 PM
Glad W was not with him... can you imagine the ramifications if he would have accidently shot Bush! he would have become the new President and the could run for two more terms AHHHHHHHHHH! Bizarrow world!

/ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

wolfdancer
02-13-2006, 05:52 PM
I don't know what the flap is over waiting one day to report this. This was clearly a hunting accident, the kind that happens all too often. When I was a teenager, my friend was out hunting with his dad, and when he fired at something moving....his dad, it was only the bushes in between the two, that prevented his dad geting shot.
Ted was probably drunk, and might have been charged with vehiclular manslaughter. The wealthy seem to avoid prosecution.
I don't see anything more then some poor one-liners coming out of this incident.

pooltchr
02-13-2006, 06:08 PM
Some idiot reporter asked if Cheney should resign over this issue! It was a hunting accident, pure and simple. The guy was a friend and financial supporter! Another example of how the liberal media will jump on anything at all in hopes of bringing down the administration.
The White House didn't make the announcement, the guy's family did. The White House Press Corps is just pi$$ed because they didn't get to break the story!
Politics as usual! /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Steve

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 12:19 AM
Have you heard anything from the young seventeen year old man that Laura killed, I don't think so.

Gayle in Md

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 01:06 AM
It wasn't his family, it was the woman who owned the land. The press is hyped up because their are tired of the secret overt covert policies of this administration, and the constant stone walling over situations for which they should have to answer to the American People. Did it ever occur to you that Cheney might have been drinking? The SS men present would not allow the Sheriff to talk with Cheney. Usually the first question asked in such an acccident is whether the shooter is drinking. Dick cheney, BTW did not have a stamp for his hunting license, so he was hunting illegally. Do you ever get allow facts to penetrate you hatred of Democrats? The press isn't behaving any differently from the way they behaved during Clinton's administration, they want to be first to get the story, regardless of whom the perpetrator may be. They were pissed because Cheney arranged for the woman who owned the property to give the story to a small town local paper, and on one could figure out how it was kept from the AP wire service.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in Md,

pooltchr
02-14-2006, 06:11 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Do you ever get allow facts to penetrate you hatred of Democrats?
Gayle in Md.

Gayle in Md, <hr /></blockquote>

Unlike you, I don't have a hatred for the opposing party. And the facts are it was a hunting accident. They happen hundreds of times every year. Key word here is "accident". If it had been anyone else, it would be nothing. As for the "illegal hunting", the wildlife service issued a warning that he needed the $7 stamp to hunt quail. Absolutely a criminal offense! They should put him under the jail for that one!
And since you bring up alcohol, we don't know whether he was drinking. We do know he didn't kill anybody, unlike one very prominent democrat who we DO know was drinking when he did kill someone...and waited 3 days to report it!
Steve

wolfdancer
02-14-2006, 06:27 AM
The $7 stamp was an oversight....something new that some hunters weren't aware of.
They are spinning the story a bit....seem to be shifting the blame to the victim.....but that's show business.
Now Ted was a different story.....he did have a
007 stamp

eg8r
02-14-2006, 06:29 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Looking forward to late night T.V. tonight... <hr /></blockquote> Did you catch anything? I could not stay awake, but was wondering if Letterman mentioned anything worth repeating. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r

eg8r
02-14-2006, 06:33 AM
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Dick cheney, BTW did not have a stamp for his hunting license, so he was hunting illegally. <hr /></blockquote> There's the smoking gun. He was breaking the law and should be treated just like everyone else that gets caught hunting without a license. No one is above the law (except Teddy. Still no word from Mary Jo.)

eg8r

eg8r
02-14-2006, 06:38 AM
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I don't see anything more then some poor one-liners coming out of this incident. <hr /></blockquote> I hope the comics are more creative. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif This is a great time for a few good laughs.

eg8r

eg8r
02-14-2006, 07:08 AM
You are right, she did kill someone with her car. Laura Bush is ashamed of what she has done. She, to this day, has trouble talking about it because of the pain (she has mentioned this more than once and before W became President). Here is a quote from the campaign trail when this was brought up, "I know this as an adult, and even more as a parent, it was crushing ... for the family involved and for me as well."

Do you ever remember seeing this type of true remorse from Teddy? No, I don't think so.

Even though you seem unable to comprehend the reasoning behind mentioning Teddy, it is not to just make mention that he killed someone in druken stupor and left her to die (most differently than Laura). It is mentioned because he comes across as a wannabe goody-goody who condemns all who have done wrong, yet does his best to cover up his own skeletons. You do not see the same actions being taken by Laura Bush. Laura seems truly upset and affected by what happened, Teddy seems annoyed it happened to him and he is very regretful he was the one responsible.

Remember Teddy attacking Alito about clubs he was part of in college? When it was mentioned that Teddy was part of a club that did the same thing, he at first ignored it. Then he stated that he has not really had any affiliation with the group it was just during college. Then he quit paying his dues. If he was not affiliated, why did he keep sending in his money 25 years later? This is the type of person Teddy is...He feels he is above even his own criticism. He did not quit paying his dues because he felt regret of what that group did, he quit paying his dues because he was hypocritically challenging Alito and someone found out about his even-dirtier skeleton. These are the reasons Mary Jo's painful death have continually been mentioned. Teddy is cold and has no regrets, Laura has been troubled and hurt by her mistake for many many years.

eg8r

eg8r
02-14-2006, 07:15 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not sure which is worse...your writing skills, or lack thereof, or your reading comprehension. While people can't figure out what you mean, when you post....it's also obvious that you can't get the gist of anyone else's. Have you considered taking an ESL class?
The quote, by the way, was not meant to be funny....it was in ref to Burr/Hamilton....I did think that some of the remarks fit the VP, but that's just my view.
<hr /></blockquote> LOL, once again you screw it all up. You are really getting good at this. The "un"-funny quote I mentioned was your Groundhog day post. I was hoping the comics come up with something better than your friends at Air America.

I will consider ESL (although that has nothing to do with writing skills or grammar) if you promise to begin attending 3 grade reading classes. These are the skills you presently execute poorly so lets start there. Looking forward to those ESL classes, hopefully Robin Williams will be teaching. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r

DickLeonard
02-14-2006, 07:31 AM
Pooltchr He can kill grouse but he couldn't kill Viet Cong.####

wolfdancer
02-14-2006, 07:33 AM
I now have a whole bunch of red icons, and the name next to them is eg8r.....
you should try to accumulate a bunch yourself.....it's the first step in anger management.
And no response to his posts.....he might find someone new to stalk....perhaps a whole new website (we should be so lucky)
When you get a few minutes...google "control freak"

Here's an excerpt from one site:

Most all of you have had to contend with control freaks. These are those people who insist on having their way in all interactions with you. They wish to set the agenda and decide what it is you will do and when you will do it. You know who they are – they have a driving need to run the show and call the shots. Lurking within the fabric of the conversation is the clear threat that if you do not accede to their needs and demands, they will be unhappy.

Certainly, it’s natural to want to be in control of your life. But when you have to be in control of the people around you as well, when you literally can’t rest until you get your way … you have a personality disorder. While it’s not a diagnostic category found in the DSM IV (the therapist’s bible for diagnostic purposes) an exaggerated emphasis on control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive generally characterized by perfectionism, orderliness, workaholic tendencies, an inability to make commitments or to trust others and a fear of having their flaws exposed. Deep down, these people are terrified of being vulnerable. They believe they can protect themselves by staying in control of every aspect of their lives, including their relationships. Control freaks take the need and urge to control to new heights, causing others stress so they can maintain a sense of order. These people are riddled with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath that perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of unhappiness. Let’s look at what makes control freaks tick, what makes you want to explode, and some ways to deal with them.

The Psychological Dynamics That Fuel a Control Freak

The need to control is almost always fueled by anxiety – though control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.

Bottom Line: In the process of being controlling, their actions say, “You’re incompetent” and “I can’t trust you.” (this is why you hate them). Remember, the essential need of a control freak is to defend against anxiety. Although it may not be apparent to you when they are making their demands, these individuals are attempting to cope with fairly substantial levels of their own anxiety. The control freak is usually fighting off a deep-seated sense of their own helplessness and impotence. By becoming proficient at trying to control other people, they are warding off their own fear of being out of control and helpless. Controlling is an anxiety management tool.

Unfortunately for you, the control freak has a lot at stake in prevailing. While trying to hold a conversation and engage them in some way, their emotional stakes involve their own identity and sense of well-being. Being in control gives them the temporary illusion and sense of calmness. When they feel they are prevailing, you can just about sense the tension oozing out of them. The control freak is very frightened. Part of their strategy is to induce that fear in you with the subtle or not so subtle threat of loss. Since the emotional stakes are so high for them, they need to assert themselves with you to not feel so helpless. To relinquish control is tantamount to being victimized and overwhelmed. When a control freak cannot control, they go through a series of rapid phases. First they become angry and agitated, then they become panicky and apprehensive, then they become agitated and threatening, and then they lapse into depression and despair.

Repetition Compulsion

Control freaks are also caught in the grip of a repetition compulsion. They repeat the same pattern again and again in their attempt to master their anxiety and cope with the trauma they feel. Characteristically, the repetition compulsion takes on a life of its own. Rather than feel calmer and therefore have a diminished need to be controlling, their behavior locks them into the same pattern in an insatiable way. Successes at controlling do not register on their internal scoreboard. They have to fight off the same threat again and again with increasing rigidity and intransigence.

Two Types of Control Freaks

Type 1 Control Freaks: The Type 1 control freak is strictly attempting to cope with their anxiety in a self absorbed way. They just want to feel better and are not even very aware of you. You will notice and hear their agitation and tentativeness. They usually do not make much eye contact when they are talking to you.

Type 2 Control Freaks: The Type 2 control freak is also trying to manage their anxiety but they are very aware of you as opposed to the Type 1 control freak. The Type 2 needs to diminish you to feel better. Their mood rises as they push you down. They do not just want to prevail; they also need to believe that they have defeated you. They need you to feel helpless so they will not feel helpless. Their belief is that someone must feel helpless in any interchange and they desperately do not want it to be them. The Type 1 needs control. The Type 2 needs to control you.

Some Coping Strategies

1) Stay as calm as you can. Control freaks tend to generate a lot of tension in those around them. Try to maintain a comfortable distance so that you can remain centered while you speak with them. Try to focus on your breathing. As they get more agitated and demanding, just breath slowly and deeply. If you stay calm and focused, this often has the effect of relaxing them as well. If you get agitated you have joined the battle on their terms.

2) Speak very slowly. Again the normal tendency is to gear up and speak rapidly when dealing with a control freak. This will only draw you into the emotional turmoil and you will quickly be personalizing what is occurring.

3) Be very patient. Control freaks need to feel heard. In fact, they do not have that much to say. They have a lot to say if you engage them in a power struggle. If you just listen carefully and ask good questions that indicate that you have heard them, then they will quickly resolve whatever the issue is and calmly move on.

4) Pay attention to your induced reactions. What is this person trying to emotionally induce in you? Notice how you feel when speaking with them. It will give you important clues as to how to deal with them more effectively and appropriately.

5) Initially, let them control the agenda. But you control the pacing. If you stay calm and speak slowly, you will be in command of the pacing of the conversation.

6) Treat them with kindness. Within most control freaks is a good measure of paranoia. They are ready to get angry and defend against what they perceive is a controlling hostile world. If you treat them with respect and kindness, their paranoia cannot take root. You will jam them up.

7) Make demands on them-- especially when dealing with the type 2 control freak. Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns.

8) Remember an old but poignant Maxim: “Those who demand the most often give the least.”

Keep in mind that control freaks are not trying to hurt you – they’re trying to protect themselves. Remind yourself that their behavior toward you isn’t personal; the compulsion was there before they met you, and it will be their forever unless they get help. Understand that they are skilled manipulators, artful and intimidating, rehearsed debaters and excellent at distorting reality.

DickLeonard
02-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Eg8r this debate raged on the Golf Channel discussion board about Teddy's bridge affair till someone posted the true Laura Bush story.

It seemed she didn't run the stop sign and kill an innocent driver, she ran the stop sign and Killed her ex-boyfriend. According the the articles in the paper that we were referred to it is still an open case because there is no statue of limitation on Homicide.

The article read that she had a view on a moonlite night to see him pull out of his side road and start down the road towards her and she sped towards him running the stop sign and crashing into him killing him.

A little more investigating on the right.####

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 08:17 AM
That, too, was an accident. I suppose you have never once in your life ever gotten in a car after having drinks. So what's Laura's excuse? Her boyfriend breaks up with her, then on a bright moonlit night, she just happens to run straight through a stop sign and broad sides him and kills him and you think that wasn't negligent? She either did it on purpose, or she is so dumb she can't tell the brake from the gas pedal. Some say she was prego, and he refused to marry her. At any rate, her prominent daddy arranged things so she would never be charged. But that's OK, she a republican, in your eyes, they can do no wrong.

Gayle in Md. Cheney gives the handle Tricky Dick a whole new nuance.

eg8r
02-14-2006, 08:36 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Eg8r this debate raged on the Golf Channel discussion board about Teddy's bridge affair till someone posted the true Laura Bush story.

It seemed she didn't run the stop sign and kill an innocent driver, she ran the stop sign and Killed her ex-boyfriend. <hr /></blockquote> There is no difference, just because he was her ex-boyfriend does not in any way mean he was not innocent.

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The article read that she had a view on a moonlite night to see him pull out of his side road and start down the road towards her and she sped towards him running the stop sign and crashing into him killing him.
<hr /></blockquote> Something here seems a bit wrong. Not sure if it was what you read or how your are paraphrasing it, but as I understand it, he was hit broadside. If this is so, he most surely was not moving towards her. Everything I have read was that this took place in an intersection. If she drove into the intersection there is no way the other guy is driving towards her.

[ QUOTE ]
A little more investigating on the right.#### <hr /></blockquote> No one is hiding this, it is very well known.

eg8r

pooltchr
02-14-2006, 08:56 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> That, too, was an accident. I suppose you have never once in your life ever gotten in a car after having drinks. <hr /></blockquote>

I never got drunk, drove off a bridge, killed someone and then hid the fact for 3 days! If I had, I would have been in jail.
Steve

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 09:06 AM
Thats right Dick, and I think, although Ed obviously has never really read any of the facts in the case, he was right in front of her, driving a corvair, one of the most recognizable headlight configuration on the road, and was about to make a turn in the intersection, when she hit him broad side.

Teddy said he dove into the water trying to get Mary Jo out of the car, and panicked. He has paid the price over the years. I once read an article about the mansion her parents built with the money Ted gave them, not that that could replace their daughter, but it was a gesture which he decided on his own to do. Mary Jo, on the other hand, was, I have always thought there was an affair going on, but she was a grown woman, and no one forced her to get into a car with a man who had more than likely been drinking, unlike Laura's toad kill, who had no say in the matter.

Manslaughter is manslaughter, and Laura's case was a clear case of manslaughter and negligence. As far as I know, there was not one court date or charge placed against her. Daddy knew the right people.

Demurity goes a long way for the women who know how to capitalize on it, and Laura's a master on that one. What was it Wendy used to use on her posts, "In order to avoid critism, say nothging, do nothing, be nothing" Good description of Smile Nod, Smile nod, Laura. What has she done in six years, NOTHING! Smile Nod Travel Eat Read, compare that to a work trojan like Hilliary!

Love,
Gayle

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 09:15 AM
Yeah, and I never plowed through a stop sign and murdered anyone, either, or shot them with bird shot. Franly, I don't know why you righties keep ujp with the Kennedy attacks, when it seems to me there are an overwholming number of similarities between the two Dynasties, Bush and Kennedy, both families with histories of Drugs, alcohol, vehicle accidents, and afairs. What's the diff?? Just that you hate Democrats. Biggest difference is that the Kennedy's lost/gave three son's and a daughter in service to their country, and Kennedy was the most beloved president in our lifetime, according to most, and loved all around the world, by people in all countries.

I can gaurentee you one thing. Jackie Kennedy would never have allowed her daughter to go to her father's inauguration in a Trench Coat, and you would never have seen Joe Kennedy show up at his son John's inauguration in a skull cap. The Bush's, IOW, are hicks, and it's painfully obvious every time they open their mouth.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 09:18 AM
WOW, sounds just like Dick Cheney, too, LMAO!

Gayle in MD
02-14-2006, 09:20 AM
Do you EVER get the facts straight. It wasn't three days, it happened in the middle of the night. Kennedy went to the police the following morning.

JEEZE....

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
02-15-2006, 05:53 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Manslaughter is manslaughter, and Laura's case was a clear case of manslaughter and negligence. As far as I know, there was not one court date or charge placed against her. Daddy knew the right people.
<hr /></blockquote> LOL, Uncle Teddy's case was a clear case of Murder. He panicked because he was worried about his marriage and his political career if that woman actually lived and could tell her side of the story.

eg8r

DickLeonard
02-15-2006, 06:25 AM
Barbara I am a watcher of MSNBC and from my take on what their asking is not political, as reporters to a one,their
faulting the handling of the story. It should have come out immediately and it would have died a happy death. Now a little story has become a Big Story.

Why wouldn't the Secret Service let the Sheriff speak with the VP. Was he drunk? and shouldn't have been shooting. Now their questioning the accuracy of his story because at the distance he said, the buckshot shouldn't have caused the damage that it did.

Its not the Democrats it is a News Media Frenzy but the Democrats will smile from ear to ear.####

Deeman3
02-15-2006, 07:23 AM
Some corrections.

No one in thier right mind would hunt birds with buck shot, buck shot is about the size of a .22 caliber bullet and will tear up game as well as be less effective in hitting the prey. It will also cause much more serious injury beyond the 30 yards that was the supposed distance in this hunt. They were probably using number 7 or 9 shot (birdshot) which is much less harmful at 30 yards.

I have been bird hunting for more than 20 years. Stopping about 10 years ago. In rural Arkansas, we only had to worry about being "peppered" when we had city folks over in Memphis come over for a hunt. As a child, you learn that you never swing the muzzle of a loaded or unloaded weapon across the plane of another hunter. The few few times I have been sprayed was by these city boys who had no clue about gun safety. I always immediately went to the vehicle and waited for everyone else to finsih hunting. i was never seriously injured by thie peppering but alwasy kept a safe distance fomr the novice hunters.

At best, Dick Cheney is a poor hunter not having the benefit of proper training or upbringing in the sport of bird hunting but I suspect as much if he is willing to hunt captive birds for hunting.

I don't give flip about if he reported this to the press. If he did not give immediate aid to his friend and accompany him to the hospital, he is less than a friend and a poor hunter.

This is a minor thing, in the vice presidents life but it was not an unavoidable accident. A responsible hunter is always under enough control to know his background and where his gun is pointed. I have had many hundreds of birds get away becuase the shot "might" put another hunter in danger. It is just not worth the risk to kill a bird. If Cheney was very experienced bird hunter, I blame him, if not, he sould get some lessons from a kid or two from rural Texas....


Deeman

wolfdancer
02-15-2006, 09:34 AM
Couple more spins to this story, and it'll be this 78 yr old running into the VP's line of fire.(faster then a speeding bullet).
It's an accident, but the more they try to shift the lion's share of the blame, onto the victim.....the longer the story will circulate, and the more the rumors will persist.

Gayle in MD
02-15-2006, 10:05 AM
That is so true. This administration launched its usual M. O. stonewall tactics. It is beginning to look like, as usual, they lied about what happend, how it happened, left out some of the true facts, ie how far away the victim was, and now we have a situation where the 78 year old man has since had a heart attack, has steel lodged near his heart, and could very easily die from this. Another stroke or heart attack could result.

My personal opinion is that Cheney was drinking, or drunk. I don't think it is a coincidence that he avoided the authorities exactly two hours beyond the required amount of time for alcohol to show no trace amounts in his system.

If this man dies, then what? The average Joe would be charged with negligence, but then the average Joe would have been prevented from high tailing it before authorities could interrogate him.

The facts already show that the White House Press spokesman, can't think of his name, failed to reveal that the victim had had a heart attack when he was questioned by the press. Several doctors have stated that the distance stated could not be correct, and still have the deep penetration of steel into that man's body. Something is fishy, that's for sure. Teddy must have been there, or maybe AAron Burr has arisen, LOL.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-16-2006, 12:04 PM
I hardly think you can get away with calling this a minor thing. The Vice President, is, after all, a public servant, and owes the public, they have a right to know what the hell is going on when it is reported that he was involved in a shooting. There are reports that both men were there with women, and there had been drinking before the hunting started. Of course, Cheney had to have time to get his mistress out of sight, and then wait fourteen hours, just the right amount of time for the alcohol in his system to dissipate, and the doctors in the hospital refuse to answer questions regarding Mr. Whittington's alcohol level. And, there have been conflicting stories from the start between he and the land owner regarding whose idea it was for her to give the story out, and how far away the shooter was from the victim.

Also, I hardly think this is a liberal media issue, since both liberal and conservative journalists have referred to the fact that no one can ever find Dick Cheney, I guess not, who wants to tell the press where they're going with their mistress?

Even Ari Fleicher, and Marlin Fitzwater have been very critical regarding the way Cheney has handled this. It is obvious, something is being hidden, he is far too seasoned a politician not to realize the heat he would bring down on the Bush Adnimistration by handling the matter the way he did. Something was more important, and I hardly think it was concern over his "Acquaintance" as he called him, it was a calculated decision, according to Alan Dershowitz, renouned, famous attorney, to pay the price for poor handling, rather than get caught doing something much worse.
Let's not forget, Cheney HAS been the recipient of not one, but two DWI's. Maybe that's the problem with the White House, No Brain Cells left!

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
02-16-2006, 12:19 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Also, I hardly think this is a liberal media issue, since both liberal and conservative journalists have referred to the fact that no one can ever find Dick Cheney, I guess not, who wants to tell the press where they're going with their mistress?
<hr /></blockquote> You keep referring to some alleged infidelities with Cheney, but you were willing to look past this during Clintons presidency.

While this is not the main point of your post, since you continue to bring it up, you are obviously trying to make a point about it. Choose which side of the fence you want to ride, I would hate for you to get a rash. Either you do care about a politician's infidelities or you don't.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
02-16-2006, 12:59 PM
Hey Ed, When ARE you joining the Reserves????

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wolfdancer
02-16-2006, 04:20 PM
LOL !!!!!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

eg8r
02-17-2006, 08:07 AM
LOL, just the very same second you run against Hillary on the national stage. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Had nothing to say about the actual subject of my post?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
02-18-2006, 04:22 AM
Cheney, has admitted that he had been drinking, but only admits to one beer, Yeah, right.

Cheney and the land owner gave conflicting stories.

The administration's first info on all of this, allowed for the false information to be distributed that it had been the victim's fault, for not announcing himself. NOT.

After that ridiculous suggestion, Cheney did not come out immediately to own up to the fact that it was not Whittington's fault, and take total blame, hence failure to do so amounted to giving legs to the story that it had been the victim's fault, pretty crummy thing to do, IMO.

Even in Cheney's interview, his words suggested that Ultimately, he was the guy that pulled the trigger, however, he did not speak to the wrong suggestion that the victim had been at fault. Certainly, after you shoot a man, and realize that he is being wrongfully accused of fault, a decent person would have emerged immediately to right the false information, instead of allowing that story to gain any credibility.

When you hunt, rule number one, HUNT IN FRONT, IOW, you don't swing around 90 degrees, as Cheney describes, and shoot into the bushes, downward, in reaction to noise in the brush. There is no doubt in my mind, he would have been charged, given the facts of the shooting, had he not been wisked away from the scene.

When it comes to accountability, and answering to the American people, regardless whether the questions are about the false information leading to the war, the illegal wire taps, the documentation which has been requested regarding the White House's handling of Katrina, the secret deals for contracting our ports to Arabs, and with the Oil execs., or the Vice President's gross negligence in the shooting of a man, our questions are never answered.

The republican majority continues to allow this president to dictate, with no accountability, and against the will of Americans, his own version of law, hence, even right wing conservatives, such as George Will, are crying out that the presidents breaking the FISA laws, and refusing to abide by it, refusing to turn over documentation, refusing to abide by the rules of congressional oversight, amounts to an unprecidented, illegal "GRAB FOR POWER"

This president only speaks under controlled, invitation only gatherings, and on the rare ocasions when he allows any questions at all, his answsers, are either composed by planted journalists, or anwered with non answers, in the Orwellian style of wordplay, IOW, no answers, no accountability, no cooperation, "F - U, I will do as I wish, eat it!"

I'm sure they'd tell us the whole story about the shooting, if not for National Security issues, lol.


Gayle in Md.

Sid_Vicious
02-19-2006, 08:14 AM
I have a question. If the athorities had shown up, similiar to what they do in a auto accident, and found alcohol was the key contributor, would Cheney not be guilty of negilence and possibly that have been the primary reason he quashed the whole deal? Having been a life long drinker myself, I find this to be a very viable possibility. I would like to personally know what their alcohol levels were, and I also feel it would have been appropriate in this case since NOBODY is above the scrutiny of the law when gun injuries are involved...sid

Gayle in MD
02-19-2006, 01:43 PM
Absolutely! Imagine one of us getting someone on the scene to hold the police off till we dry out!

Gayle in Md.

Deeman3
02-19-2006, 02:33 PM
If he was suspected of being intoxicated, he sould have volunteered for a blood test, like a good democratic senator would have. If found to be over the legal limit, he should be prosecuted for wreckless endangerment.

Of course, it's easy to make the accusation. It is not fair to assume this.

Deeman

wolfdancer
02-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Be wery, wery quiet. I'm hunting quail: The Abracadabra costume store in Manhattan updates its Elmer Fudd collection.
http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2006/02/17/cheney9b.jpg

wolfdancer
02-19-2006, 06:24 PM
Gayle, I think there is a book out on it already
"Eats, shoots, and leaves"....Lynne Truss

SnakebyteXX
02-19-2006, 06:24 PM
Late-Night Jokes About Dick Cheney's Shooting Accident

"Rumors are that the reason Dick Cheney didn't say anything about the hunting accident for about 24 hours was because he had been drinking. And I'm thinking, well jeez, he was probably drinking when we planned the invasion of Iraq." --David Letterman

"Over the weekend while on a hunting trip down in Texas, Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot a member of his hunting party. He apologized. In fact, he told Brit Hume that he was actually trying to hit Cindy Sheehan." --Jay Leno

"Cheney now says he can't blame the shooting on the guy who got shot. He said we tried that for three days. It didn't work." --Jay Leno

"Hillary Clinton blasted the vice president today for failing to disclose all the facts. She wants Dick Cheney to give exact details. You know like, 'How do you shoot someone and make it look like an accident?'" --Jay Leno

"Here's my favorite part of this whole incident. After Cheney shot the guy, the police later showed up at the ranch where Cheney was staying and wanted to talk to him, but was told to come back the next morning. And that's what they did, they came back the next morning. Kev, that ever happen in the hood?"-- Jay Leno

"Dick Cheney gave an interview to Fox News. Some are accusing Fox of giving softball questions. My answer to that is, 'Well, does a vice president shoot in the woods?'" --David Letterman

"Dick Cheney and his buddies go down there hunting in Texas, and Dick Cheney guns down a guy. And they're hunting quail, and the quail disappeared. They vanished. And reports now that they're hiding in the mountainous area near Pakistan" --David Letterman

"This just in, earlier today, Dick and Lynne Cheney shot up a gas station." --David Letterman

"Cheney also admitted that he'd been drinking. He said he had one beer. Okay, it was a 40-ounce Colt .45, but just one." --Jay Leno

"They were in a car, they drive along, they get out of the car, he shoots his friend in the face, then they get back in the car and they go hide for 18 hours. That’s not hunting ... that's an episode of 'The Sopranos'" --Jay Leno

"See, this is why Republicans have to commit white collar crimes to steal money. They're just not good with guns, they don't know how to handle them." --Jay Leno

"President Bush says he is standing behind the vice president. Way behind him." --Jay Leno

"America remaining obsessed, fascinated, appalled, by what is being called 'Dick Cheney Shot A Guy In The Face-Gate.'" --Jon Stewart (Watch video clip)

"A mere five days after shooting a man in the face, Vice President Dick Cheney broke his silence about the incident by submitting to a no-holds-barred grilling at a public press conference. I'm just kidding. ... Actually, he sat down with Brit Hume on Fox News for not some much a grilling -- more of a teat suckle." --Jon Stewart

"The real question now is, is this a one-time thing, or will the vice president try to kill again." --David Letterman

"I'm surprised Dick Cheney loves to hunt so much. The five times the government tried to give him a gun, he got a deferment." --Jay Leno

"What a nightmare I had last night. I dreamed I was at a Washington party and I had to choose between Dick Cheney taking me on a hunting trip or Ted Kennedy driving me home." --Jay Leno

eg8r
02-20-2006, 05:56 AM
[ QUOTE ]
"This just in, earlier today, Dick and Lynne Cheney shot up a gas station." --David Letterman
<hr /></blockquote> /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r

Sid_Vicious
02-20-2006, 07:48 AM
"If he was suspected of being intoxicated, he sould have volunteered for a blood test"

Yea right! This guy makes horrid decisions for the country via his deception, and YOU think he's going to volunteer his individual, possibly criminal condition?, "Oh officer, I need a blood test I think." Get real Dee, WOULD YOU, in any circumstances, especially if you were a politician? A drunk will use any escape route he can, you know that Dee. Only an investigative procedure will get an intoxicated person nabbed, otherwise he'll slink off and let time take care of it. You can bet your Azz that if I shoot you in Texas while bird hunting, that I'll be scrutinized by the law, quickly.

sid

Deeman3
02-20-2006, 10:00 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Sid_Vicious:</font><hr> "If he was suspected of being intoxicated, he sould have volunteered for a blood test"

Yea right! This guy makes horrid decisions for the country via his deception, and YOU think he's going to volunteer his individual, possibly criminal condition?, "Oh officer, I need a blood test I think." Get real Dee, WOULD YOU, in any circumstances, especially if you were a politician? <font color="blue"> Cool down Sid, I'll read to you what I said. "he should have volunteered for a blood test." I did not mean that he would especially, that he would react as you might. </font color> A drunk will use any escape route he can, you know that Dee. <font color="blue"> You are still making an assumption that he was drunk. Even from you, that is not fair. The local officials might have compelled him to take such a test but did not, could not. </font color> Only an investigative procedure will get an intoxicated person nabbed, otherwise he'll slink off and let time take care of it. <font color="blue">You mean like in the Kennedy murder or Mary Jo? </font color> You can bet your Azz that if I shoot you in Texas while bird hunting, that I'll be scrutinized by the law, quickly. <font color="blue"> No, you know, unless you never hunt, that most bird hunting accidents go unreported unless there are questionable circumstances or someone is almost killed or killed. Now, from all the witness accounts, this appeared to be an accident, although a stupid one at that, and the victim's injuries did not appear life threatening until his heart stopped.

I believe it really never occured to him that he might be later accused of being drunk (unless he really was). In that case, "he should have volunteered to have an alcohol test to clear it up." However, yo can't think of every single thing the far leaft will accuse you of especially if you have just had the shock of shooting your friend, again like when Kennedy was so shocked he forgot to help Mary Jo out of the car for a few days.

I've admitted Cheney is a sorry hunter. Maybe he should have called a news conference. However, you will jump all over this and remain quite when your political heros do much worse.

By the way, I've seen you democrats hunting in Texas as well and, like Cheney, I think I'm safest if your aiming at me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif...However, I do shoot back.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. </font color>

Deeman
democrats don't hunt do they? That would be non PC.....
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DickLeonard
02-20-2006, 01:52 PM
Gayle we had a Republican Congressman from Saratoga/Washington county, after spending an afternoon drinking at Williard Mountain Ski srea, drive down the road and skid off the road into a power pole shutting of the power to the Ski Lift.

The first person on the scene was a Washington Co. deputy Sheriff, then came the volunteer ambulance. The Deputy wouldn't let the ambulance personel near the Congressman because they would have insisted he be given a breathalizer test.

He was lucky the power was restored before the skiers on the lift froze to death or he would have been in prison now instead of Washington.####

Gayle in MD
02-21-2006, 12:15 AM
Hi Dick,
Public Servants should be held to a higher standard than anyone else, and especially Republicans, since they are the ones most brain cell challenged /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gayle in Md. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DickLeonard
02-21-2006, 12:58 PM
Gayle he was one of the Repubs committing violence in Florida during the bogus recount of 2000. ####

DickLeonard
02-21-2006, 03:02 PM
Deeman I had a school mate/friend/6ft3 300 lbs get killed hunting. Someone shot him for a deer, a Bear yes a Deer no. That cured me of every wanting to go hunting but I did go in some ratty poolrooms.

The comics have been blasting Cheney as a great hunter but someone who was afraid to go hunting people who shot back.

The papers say he was a great hunter. Our local hunting reporter/editor said if this had happened in NYS our hunting laws would have demanded an immediate investigation
and an automatic loss of license for 10 years.####

DickLeonard
02-21-2006, 03:52 PM
Gayle there was a great commotion outside my house last nite,cop cars all over the place,sirens blasting,lights flashing.Then the firetrucks, then the police cruiser blocked off the street.

My wife wanted me to find out what was going on, so I walked over to the cop in the patrol car and asked him what was going on, he said a fire down the block.

I said I thought with all the cop cars Dick Cheney had shot somebody else and walked into the house. My wife on the phone with one of my daughters asked me what was going on I told her a fire down the street and I said to the cop there was so much police activity I thought Dick Cheney had shot someone and she said to my daughter I don't know what I am going to do with him and his anti Bush attitude he asked the cop if Dick Cheney had shot someone else and my daughter told her on mom he would have to wait three weeks for that info to come out.

I told her to tell my daughter we should get a job writing David Letterman's Monologue.####

Deeman3
02-21-2006, 05:00 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> Deeman I had a school mate/friend/6ft3 300 lbs get killed hunting. Someone shot him for a deer, a Bear yes a Deer no. That cured me of every wanting to go hunting but I did go in some ratty poolrooms.

The comics have been blasting Cheney as a great hunter but someone who was afraid to go hunting people who shot back.

The papers say he was a great hunter. Our local hunting reporter/editor said if this had happened in NYS our hunting laws would have demanded an immediate investigation
and an automatic loss of license for 10 years.#### <font color="blue">

Dick,

I agree, he is a lousey hunter. I wonder how many balls he can run? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif </font color>

Deeman









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pooltchr
02-21-2006, 07:37 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman3:</font><hr> I wonder how many balls he can run? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif </font color>

Deeman


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You could probably give him the 7 and out /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Steve

Gayle in MD
02-22-2006, 12:08 PM
LMAO! Too funny. Dick kills the animals, while George chops the trees down. What a pair! And we think it's a war on Terror!

Gayle in Md.