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02-22-2002, 08:54 AM
How does the typical Joss/Scruggs player equate to the APA skill level? Is the APA scale to low? Would the majority of these players be 9's. If so, extend the APA scale. For example, would they 10's, 13's etc. How does the A, B, C ranking relate to the APA? Is an APA 9 a B, B+, A-, etc?

Thanks for your help!

Mike

Scott Lee
02-22-2002, 09:19 AM
You're missing the big picture here. APA is neither designed for, nor actively seeking, highly skilled poolplayers. The huge majority of the league is made up of average ability players (3's, 4's & 5's). This is the mass market that APA seeks. Therefore, there is no reason to expand or change the skill level designations within the APA. To answer your question, probably the majority of people playing in the Joss/Scruggs events would be higher ability players (APA 7's in 8-ball, or 9's in 9-ball). These are NOT casual players, and are much more likely to be quite serious about their games.

Scott Lee

02-22-2002, 10:06 AM
Hi Scott:

I realize they are different venues. I'm just trying to get a perspective on how good the players are in the more serious events.

Thanks, Mike

Fred Agnir
02-22-2002, 10:06 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: mjomjo asks:</font><hr>How does the typical Joss/Scruggs player equate to the APA skill level? Is the APA scale to low? Would the majority of these players be 9's. If so, extend the APA scale. For example, would they 10's, 13's etc. How does the A, B, C ranking relate to the APA? Is an APA 9 a B, B+, A-, etc?<hr></blockquote>

On a scale to 9, half of the players on the Joss Tour would be 10's and up.

The other half would be 7-9's

The APA handicaps are based on amateur play. Once you top out, you either feel overly proud that you're on the top of a small hill, or you go on to the next hill. There's really no need to extend the handicaps in the APA.

Fred &lt;~~~ bottom of the next hill

02-22-2002, 03:11 PM
In the NYC area, APA 7s (in 8-ball) are roughly equivalent to the C+ level. Most of the Joss/Scruggs players are Open or A level, so as Scott said, the APA is not really designed for them.

Still, the games are so different (regulation 9-ball vs. bar-table 8-ball) that comparisons aren't so easy. B players are capable of winning bar-table sets against Open players, whereas they would have little chance of doing the same on a regulation table.

- Steve