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Qtec
02-23-2006, 05:18 AM
Bob Barr, Bane of the Right?

By Dana Milbank
Saturday, February 11, 2006; A02



You could find just about everything at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference this week: the bumper sticker that says "Happiness is Hillary's face on a milk carton," the "Straight Pride" T-shirt, a ride on an F-22 Raptor simulator at the Lockheed exhibit, and beans from the Contra Cafe coffee company (slogan: "Wake up with freedom fighters").

As of midday yesterday, a silent auction netted $300 for lunch with activist Grover Norquist, $275 for a meal with the Heritage Foundation president and $1,000 for a hunting trip with the American Conservative Union chairman. But lunch with former congressman Bob Barr (R-Ga.), with an "estimated value" of $500, had a top bid of only $75 -- even with a signed copy of Barr's book, "The Meaning of Is," thrown in.

No surprise there. The former Clinton impeachment manager is the skunk at CPAC's party this year. He says President Bush is breaking the law by eavesdropping on U.S. citizens without warrants. And fellow conservatives, for the most part, don't want to hear it.

"You've heard of bear baiting? We're going to have, today, Barr baiting," R. Emmet Tyrell, a conservative publisher, announced as he introduced a debate Thursday between Barr and Viet Dinh, one of the authors of the USA Patriot Act.

"Are we losing our lodestar, which is the Bill of Rights?" Barr beseeched the several hundred conservatives at the Omni Shoreham in Woodley Park. "Are we in danger of putting allegiance to party ahead of allegiance to principle?"

Barr answered in the affirmative. "Do we truly remain a society that believes that . . . every president must abide by the law of this country?" he posed. "I, as a conservative, say yes. I hope you as conservatives say yes."

But nobody said anything in the deathly quiet audience. Barr merited only polite applause when he finished, and one man, Richard Sorcinelli, booed him loudly. "I can't believe I'm in a conservative hall listening to him say is off course trying to defend the United States," Sorcinelli fumed.

Far more to this crowd's liking was Vice President Cheney, who stopped by CPAC late Thursday and suggested the surveillance program as a 2006 campaign issue. "With an important election coming up, people need to know just how we view the most critical questions of national security," he told the cheering crowd. <font color="blue"> Aah. The old 'fear factor/we will save you' speech. [ just the fact that 1000s of illegal aliens enter the US every year by just WALKING across the border, or the 1000s who enter the US legally but fail to leave should cast some doubt on the need for spying on US citizens.</font color>

Dinh, now a Georgetown law professor, urged the CPAC faithful to carve out a Bush exception to their ideological principle of limited government. "The conservative movement has a healthy skepticism of governmental power, but at times, unfortunately, that healthy skepticism needs to yield," Dinh explained, invoking Osama bin Laden.

Dinh brought the crowd to a raucous ovation when he judged: "The threat to Americans' liberty today comes from al Qaeda and its associates and the people who would destroy America and her people, not the brave men and women who work to defend this country!"

It was the sort of tactic that has intimidated Democrats and the last few libertarian Republicans who question the program's legality. But Barr is not easily suppressed. During a 2002 Senate primary, he accidentally fired a pistol at a campaign event; at a charity event a decade earlier, he licked whipped cream from the chests of two women.

Barr wasn't going to get a lesson on patriotism from this young product of the Bush Justice Department. "That, folks, was a red herring," he announced. [b]"This debate is very simple: It is a debate about whether or not we will remain a nation subject to and governed by the rule of law or the whim of men."

It's every citizens duty and right to question its leaders, without fear of persecution. Just because you are against this program doesnt mean to say the you are against Nat Sec or somehow unpatriotic if you critisize GW.
If the Pres has the right to do anything he wants in the name of 'national security', he can break any law. [ might enen promote himself to Emperor and suspend elections![ for the good of the country of course /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif]

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eg8r
02-23-2006, 08:35 AM
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a ride on an F-22 Raptor simulator at the Lockheed exhibit <hr /></blockquote> Which is very cool. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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"With an important election coming up, people need to know just how we view the most critical questions of national security," he told the cheering crowd. [ QUOTE ]
Aah. The old 'fear factor/we will save you' speech. <hr /></blockquote> <hr /></blockquote> I think you misinterpreted what he was saying. What he is saying is something the Dems have failed to do in the recent past elections. Barr is stating that the voters want to know exactly where the politician stands, there should not be any doubt. There was plenty of doubt on where Kerry stood on certain issues because he kept flip flopping. Kerry would say, "Before I voted against the war, I voted it for it", the next day he would say, "Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time", a few days later he would say, "I would not change my vote even given this new information".

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"This debate is very simple: It is a debate about whether or not we will remain a nation subject to and governed by the rule of law or the whim of men."
<hr /></blockquote> This is a great statement and I love it. Not to bring up such a painful past, but Clinton was the type of President that led the country on the whim of men. He could not do anything until he sent out a survey (what are the polls saying?). Bush seems to be a mixture of both. This does not sit well with Barr. I agree, the President should govern the country by rule of law, the Constitution. No more, no less, and neither party is doing this.

eg8r