View Full Version : What to do when the emperor has no clothes

03-04-2006, 04:54 PM
Garrison Keillor, Tribune Media Services
Published March 1, 2006

These are troubling times for all of us who love this country, as surely we all do, even the satirists. You may poke fun at your mother, but if she is belittled by others it burns your bacon. A blowhard French journalist writes a book about America that is full of arrogant stupidity, and you want to let the air out of him and mail him home flat. And then you read the paper and realize the country is led by a man who isn't paying attention, and you hope that somebody will poke him. Or put a sign on his desk that says, "Try much harder."

Do we need to impeach him to bring some focus to this man's life? The Feb. 27 issue of The New Yorker carries an article by Jane Mayer about a loyal conservative Republican and U.S. Navy lawyer, Albert Mora, and his resistance to the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. From within the Pentagon bureaucracy, he did battle against Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and John Yoo, who then was at the Justice Department, and shadowy figures taking orders from Vice President Dick "Gunner" Cheney, arguing America had ratified the Geneva Convention that forbids cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners, and so it has the force of law. They seemed to be arguing that President Bush has the right to order prisoners to be tortured.

One such prisoner, Mohamed al-Qahtani, was held naked in isolation under bright lights for months, threatened by dogs, subjected to unbearable noise volumes and otherwise abused, so that he begged to be allowed to kill himself. When the Senate approved the Torture Convention in 1994, it defined torture as an act "specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering."

Is the law a law or is it a piece of toast?

Wiretap surveillance of Americans without a warrant? Great. Go for it. How about turning over American ports to a country more closely tied to Sept. 11, 2001, than Saddam Hussein was? Fine by me. No problem. And what about the war in Iraq? Hey, you're doing a heck of a job. No need to tweak a thing. And your blue button-down shirt--it's you.

But torture is something else. Most people agree with this, and in a democracy that puts the torturers in a delicate position. They must make sure to destroy their e-mails and have subordinates who will take the fall. Because it is impossible to keep torture secret. It goes against the American grain and it eats at the conscience of even the most disciplined, and in the end the truth will come out. It is coming out now.

Our adventure in Iraq, at a cost of billions, has brought that country to the verge of civil war while earning us more enemies than ever before. And tax money earmarked for security is being dumped into pork-barrel projects anywhere somebody wants their own SWAT team. Detonation of a nuclear bomb within our borders--pick any big city--is a real possibility, as much so now as five years ago. Meanwhile, many Democrats have conceded the very subject of security and positioned themselves as Guardians of Our Forests and Benefactors of Waifs and Owls, neglecting the most basic job of government, which is to defend this country. The peaceful lagoon that is the White House is designed for the comfort of a vulnerable man. Perfectly understandable, but not what is needed now. The U.S. Constitution provides a simple, ultimate way to hold him to account for war crimes and the failure to attend to the country's defense. Impeach him and let the Senate hear the evidence.

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Gayle in MD
03-04-2006, 07:16 PM

03-04-2006, 08:11 PM
Get rid of Bush,and we get dead eye Dick. How bout sending them quail hunting together. No help there the next in line is another moron. God must love morons,she made so many of them. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

03-04-2006, 11:36 PM
Well, yeah, but what about Clinton lying to congress?
I thought i'd save ed the trouble bringing that up

Gayle in MD
03-05-2006, 06:22 AM
LMAO....Yeah! And there's no question in my mind that without the Kennedy accident at Martha's Vineyard, Bill and Hilliary's Real Estate deals, and above all, Bill's, ah em, YOU KNOW WHAT.... 9/11 could never have happened, and this War could never have been launched!

Gayle in Md....oh, and also, the Economic picture would be much brighter if not for Roosevelt! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

03-05-2006, 06:30 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Gayle in Md....oh, and also, the Economic picture would be much brighter if not for Roosevelt! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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At least you have learned something from the other posters on this board!

Gayle in MD
03-05-2006, 12:48 PM
You know what, I think if Bush were impeached, Cheney would immediately leave office. If he had to be president, and give up meeting his mistress in all those "Undisclosed locations" and vanishing from the public view for extended periods of time, he'd quit in a New York Minute! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Who is harder to find, bin Laden, or Dick Cheney???

Gayle in Md.

03-05-2006, 05:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> You know what, I think if Bush were impeached, Cheney would immediately leave office.

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Good plan...that way Dennis Hastert would become president for the next two years. That would give the Republicans an incumbent president to run against whoever the Dems decide to run in 2008. Since the Dems have yet to come up with anyone with a decent chance of actually winning, how would they ever stand a chance against an incumbent and having the advantage of actually having experience in the office?
Is that what you really want to see???????????
Just wondering if you considered that possibility.

03-05-2006, 06:42 PM
Steve, let us have our small triumphs here....it was a nice dream, and now you done gone and ruined it.
I think though by next election, people will be so tired of this mess, if we can't come up with a candidate, they'll elect a third party guy....is Ross Perot, or Ralph Nader still around?

03-05-2006, 07:28 PM
Sorry, Wolf. Didn't mean to throw cold water. Just pointing out that sometimes it is very important to consider the ramifications of what you wish for...you just might get it and be sorry.

As for the third party idea, I would love nothing better!!! These days, you can't tell a Republican from a Democrat without a scorecard! Or even better yet...let's do like big business does. We send a bunch of people to Washington, and tell them they will get paid based on how well they do staying in their budget. The more they can save the taxpayers, the bigger their check becomes. No profit? No paycheck!! I bet that would cut government waste in a heartbeat!

03-05-2006, 08:30 PM
Not only does that sound like a good idea.....I agree with you about not being able to tell the players without a score card.