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SnakebyteXX
03-07-2006, 09:35 PM
By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Suffer from springtime allergies? You could be among the first affected by the USA Patriot Act poised for final congressional passage this week.

Besides terrorism, the bill takes aim at the production of methamphetamine, a highly addictive drug that cannot be manufactured without a key ingredient of everyday cold and allergy medicines. The bill would impose new limits next month for how much relief a person can buy over the counter.

And beginning Sept. 30, it'll take a flash of ID to buy that medication.

The legislation sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. and Jim Talent, R-Mo., would blanket the nation with one policy that would put medicines containing pseudoephedrine behind the counter and out of the reach of meth cooks.


"If we leave it up to local jurisdiction, we're simply going to move the problem from one jurisdiction to another without addressing the root cause," said Fresno, Calif., Police Chief Jerry Dyer.

Pass a state or local law cracking down on methamphetamine production, set off a cycle that goes something like this:

The black market price of cold tablets needed to make the drug skyrockets, driving the meth makers to the jurisdiction next door. There, they buy it in bulk - legally, cheaply, anonymously.

That is, until that state or city gets tough on meth with new laws of its own.


Rather than wait for localities to stitch together a patchwork of anti meth policies, the provision of the Patriot Act would leave meth producers nowhere to run but out of the country. It takes aim at the meth trade's weakest point - the supply of pseudoephedrine.

Beginning 30 days after President Bush signs the law, expected sometime this week, purchase limits go into effect. One person would be limited to buying 300, 30-mg pills in a month or 120 such pills in a day. The measure would make an exception for "single-use" sales - individually packaged pseudoephedrine products.

Many retailers, such as Kmart, Walgreens, Target and Wal-Mart, have already adopted guidelines to limit customer access to cold products or to limit their sales.

Similar state and local restrictions have caused seizures of meth labs to plunge by double-digit percentages in such states as Arkansas, Oregon and Missouri.

At the same time, drug agents began finding more meth from Mexican cartels on the street.

Still, closing down domestic meth labs is of unique urgency to public health and safety, law enforcement officials said.

The drug is made in clandestine labs with battery acid, drain cleaner or other chemicals that help turn the cold and allergy medicine into powder.

One quart of ether, another ingredient, holds the explosive power of several sticks of dynamite, said Sgt. Jason Grellner of the Franklin County, Mo., Narcotics Enforcement Unit, which has seized 600 meth labs since 1998 in a jurisdiction of 100,000 people.

Wading into the toxic soup of a meth lab puts officers in situations for which they are not necessarily trained, Grellner said.

"They have to know the job of a hazardous-waste chemist. They have to have the mindset of a firefighter. They have to be a natural-resources worker," Grellner said. "Wearing that many hats is a safety concern."

And an abandoned lab becomes an environmental hazard, pointed out Dyer.

"They were leaving the chemicals and equipment out in the open and vacating the property," Dyer said. "They found out that we started to trace down suspects with that equipment. Now they are burying these same items underground."

Oklahoma provides evidence that driving out meth labs doesn't mean getting rid of meth. Oklahoma's meth lab seizures have fallen 90 percent since April 2004, when it became the first state to ban over-the-counter sales of everyday cold and allergy medications.

At the same time, seizures of smokeable Mexican meth known as "crystal ice" rose nearly fivefold, from 384 cases in the 15 months before the law to 1,875 since.

"We're going to see trafficking by Mexican cartel organizations, on a much larger

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onepocketfanatic
03-07-2006, 10:00 PM
The cartels are now firing on border patrols here in Texas so that their boats, mules, and such can make it to their destinations while the agents are engaged. These cartels are armed to the teeth, and are very serious about getting their drugs across the border.
Even if you shut down all the labs here in the states, the cartels are going to continue to supply. They have a huge presence at the border due to the large amount of money they have. Paying off snitches, bribing police and such are pretty common place down south in Texas.
It has gotten so bad that most news papers across the border have stopped writing about the cartels due to a lot of them getting murdered. You would think that the Mexican authorities would do something, but considering the amount of money these guys have, they probably have a lot of the politicians in their pockets too. It is really a sad state of affairs.

SnakebyteXX
03-08-2006, 11:27 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote onepocketfanatic:</font><hr> The cartels are now firing on border patrols here in Texas so that their boats, mules, and such can make it to their destinations while the agents are engaged. These cartels are armed to the teeth, and are very serious about getting their drugs across the border.
<font color="blue">The vast majority of illegal narcotics that enter this country come in thru normal shipping routes - ie. shipping containers - semi-trucks etc. This is not to say that a significant quantity doesen't come across the border in areas with minimal superivision. Nor does it discount the bribe power of the cartels. Border agents can be bought if there's enough money at stake - and there is... </font color>

Even if you shut down all the labs here in the states, the cartels are going to continue to supply.
<font color="blue">I fully agree. Where ever there is demand there will be supply. The real problem here is that worldwide manuafacturing of ephedrine is ongoing - as long as there's ephedrine available to make speed - speed will be made.

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They have a huge presence at the border due to the large amount of money they have. Paying off snitches, bribing police and such are pretty common place down south in Texas.
It has gotten so bad that most news papers across the border have stopped writing about the cartels due to a lot of them getting murdered. You would think that the Mexican authorities would do something, but considering the amount of money these guys have, they probably have a lot of the politicians in their pockets too. It is really a sad state of affairs. <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> Frontline did an excellent expose recently regarding the relationship between the production of ephedrine and the manufacturing of meth. Seems that the DEA was successful years ago at eradicating Qualudes because they went worldwide and convinced the governements in countries where the key ingredients were produced to stop producing them. No key ingredients - no ludes. The problem with trying to get this done re ephedrine is that the legit pharmas are making upwards of four billion dollars a year on cold medications that use the ingredients (ephedrine). The pharmaceutical companies blocked efforts by the DEA to halt worldwide production of the drug.- Where there's money to b e made people will try to make it be they drug dealers of the illegal kind or drug dealers of the legal kind. Meanwhile people continue to die due to the ready availability of meth.

The Meth Epidemic (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/) </font color>

eg8r
03-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Where there's money to b e made people will try to make it be they drug dealers of the illegal kind or drug dealers of the legal kind. Meanwhile people continue to die due to the ready availability of meth.
<hr /></blockquote> I personally don't feel these people are worth saving. If they die doing meth, tough crap. That is all there is to it. I don't have any problem with these people accepting the responsibility for their actions even if it means death.

eg8r