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Drop1
03-21-2006, 07:37 PM
Facilities for a permanent presense in Iraq are being built,away from the cities.President Bush said today "It will be another President who decides when the troops should be taken out". We are not in Iraq for the long term,we are in Iraq forever,and in the process we are killing the future of America. When will the Republicans realize this President has no solutions for this Nation in crisis.

Cueless Joey
03-21-2006, 07:43 PM
Vietnam all over again? /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

DebraLiStarr
03-21-2006, 10:05 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Cueless Joey:</font><hr> Vietnam all over again? /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif <hr /></blockquote>

I think it is much different than Vietnam. I think what is frustrating in conflicts such as this is that there is nothing to be gained. We're not in a better situation because we went in and bombed Iraq, overthrew the gov't, and placed Saddam in custody. We've proved nothing except that we had no long term plan - we just decided to play it as we went along. Even pool players plan ahead in rder to run the table, too bad our leaders arent as good at planning as pool players.

(hey - this was my 500th post!!!)

Gayle in MD
03-21-2006, 11:31 PM
His behavior today was disgusting. The best thing we can hope for is a Democratic majority in both houses. He's destroying our country. It's going to take grass roots efforts to stop him. All those young people, dead and maimed, for nothing, it's a disgrace. Rumsfeld should be terred and feathered and run out of Washington. Three idiots, not a clue what they're doing, and yet they're as "In Your Face" as ever. Over a thousand people have been killed since the Mosque was bombed.

Gayle in Md.
Proud to say I didn't vote for Bush!

Gayle in Md.

DebraLiStarr
03-22-2006, 06:26 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> His behavior today was disgusting.

<font color="blue">No, he was pissed off - he's human - it happens. </font color>

The best thing we can hope for is a Democratic majority in both houses.

<font color="blue">How would that change anything? Politicians are politicians. They serve themselves, not their constituents - THAT is the problem. It doesnt matter which party is in control, the politicians are swayed by lobbyists and party peer pressure - NOT by what is right or wrong for our country OR who votes for them or not - they could care less about that. </font color>

He's destroying our country. It's going to take grass roots efforts to stop him.

<font color="blue">The democratic party is not a "grass roots" organization. Grass roots efforts work great for domestic policy, in international matters its like tossing snowballs in a bonfire. </font color>

All those young people, dead and maimed, for nothing, it's a disgrace.

<font color="blue">Its not a disgrace, its an unpopular war. Their service is not for "nothing" - they have sworn to uphold the responsibilities of their military service against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Are you saying that Bush is killing the soldiers, or are you saying it is unfortunate that those cute, cuddly teddy bear Iraqi terrorist sects are killing our troops? The only way these soldiers will "die for nothing" is if we leave there without completing what we started. </font color>

Rumsfeld should be terred and feathered and run out of Washington.

<font color="blue">While I'm here, lets tar and feather Bill and Hillary also - you can ignore all of that, right? </font color>

Three idiots, not a clue what they're doing, and yet they're as "In Your Face" as ever. Over a thousand people have been killed since the Mosque was bombed.

<font color="blue"> You should do some research on the number of people killed in this war in comparison to the number of people that lost ther lives at Iwojima (one battle). Its never pleasant when young soldiers lose their lives for any reason in any situation - but the fact still remains that the body count for this 3 year war is extremely low in comparison to other conflicts. People that oppose this conflict by bringing up the death toll of our soldiers are comparing these statistics to what conflict?

Combine that with the fact that we would be in the same situation no matter who was in charge (go back and read speeches by Kerry and Gore and take note of their comments about overthrowing the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein - its there if you want to read it) - they would have done the same exact thing. If they did, would you be cheering them on?

The troops need our support and they wont get it from the media - that has been proven. They need it from the people in this country - and we should be supporting them louder than the media is criticizing their efforts.

I agree with President Bush when he said (not a verbatim quote) "They (terrorists) want you to keep reporting about all the bombings on your TV shows."

Comments like yours prove that the psychology of their terrorism is effective in this country. We're the USA - we don't back up, retreat or back down from anybody - not even terrorists, no matter how much they try to scare the crap out of us. The problem in this country isnt President Bush, its that some people dont have a backbone nor do they have a clue that these terrorists want this to be an unpopular war to the citizens of this country. They believe that if they can destroy your confidence in the president, that they can also destroy and control every other thought or opinion that you have. On some people its working and its working quite well. </font color>
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Debra Li

Sid_Vicious
03-22-2006, 07:07 AM
If we're talking about the press conference yesterday, I think Bush should have been drug tested. His presentation and phoney lines in that event should have embarrased his whole family. If our dilemma wasn't so pathetic for the country, it would be funny, which it ain't...sid

nAz
03-22-2006, 09:21 AM
Drop i think there are two reasons why we will never win this war on Iraq, one this country does not have the stomach to go middle evil in there.. that is how the Romans and most long term conquerors in the past use to do it, it was effective. Two like most countries ours included the people living there and in that region will rather die then let a foreign power come in and take control.

anyways permanent bases is and probably always was the long term goal of this country all the way back to the end of Reagans majestic rein. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Funny as senile as he was getting he was still lucid enough to make better decisions then that baboon we have in office

eg8r
03-22-2006, 10:49 AM
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When will the Republicans realize this President has no solutions for this Nation in crisis. <hr /></blockquote> If you read all of Gayle's posts, you would know that the entire world has realized this. Another question to go along hand in hand with your question is, "When are the Dems going to take advantage and actually put together a plan and offer solutions and take advantage of Bush's poor ratings"?

Now is the time to capitalize for the Dems.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
03-22-2006, 07:42 PM
I agree Martin,
He looks even more stupid when he tries to be funny! Today he was back out there, with a friendly audience, of course. You could tell the questions were staged.

His recent attacks on the media are humorous. He's fine with the media as long as he can use them to strike fear in the hearts of Americans so that he can go to war, with the wrong country, but when they report the truth about what is going on over there, he can't stand that.

Iraq is a mess. It is unstable. People can't get around in BGDD unless they have armed escorts.

The media never reports good news. That is not their purpose, in Iraq, or anywhere else. We've lost over eighty journalists from countries around the world who were risking their lives to report what is happening there. I think he has a lot of nerve, trying to blame his mishandling of this war on the press!

We should never have gone into Iraq. It was a mistake, and now he's stuck there. Americans will not stand for the major incompetence displayed by this administration. Their goals were unrealistic.

One thing never changes, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfled are stii telling lies about everything. They disgust me.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in Md.
Proud that I didn't vote for George Bush!

Drop1
03-22-2006, 09:47 PM
Now thats a fair question,and I don't have a clue. I think every politician shares in this American Crisis, and the solutions they offer should be the basis of how we vote. I believe in solutions coupled to individuals,and not blind devotion to a Political Party,or acceptance on Faith that we will be told the truth,by either side.

DickLeonard
03-22-2006, 10:20 PM
Gayle, I saw the editor of Harpers on CSpan today defending his reasons why George Bush should be IMpeached. He made a clear case of why George should go. The Laws he has broken etc,lies,incompentence. It must be on Harpers website to read. ####

pooltchr
03-23-2006, 06:23 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Iraq is a mess. It is unstable. People can't get around in BGDD unless they have armed escorts.

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This is a bit odd, but I got a call at work yesterday from a guy in Iraq who was ordering some pool cues and supplies. I asked him, and he told me people in the city are going about their normal business. Yes, he said there is still gunfire heard in some areas, but people are dealing with it and going about with their lives. He told me they are playing pool on 6 tables at the old republican guard palace. No, it's not the best environment, but hardly as bad as you are making it out to be.
That was straight from one of our guys stationed over there.
Steve

Gayle in MD
03-23-2006, 07:04 AM
Thanks dick, I'll check it out. There is no question that Bush has broken the law. He has used fear to manipulate the partisan types, who will defend him no matter how incompetent, and untruthful he behaves. I saw this on C-Span that the favorite and most watched newscaster for the right, is Bill O'Reiley, a proven liar. I have read the studies which isolate his newscasts, and cull out the many lies he tells every night. Is there any wonder that we have people in this country who are so far from reality in their thinking? The most distressing phenomena is to listen to this administration endeavor to link the act of accumulating and absorbing the facts, and making ones dicisions accordingly, to supporting the enemy, and working against our troops. This, ofcourse, is not reality. The incompetence displayed by Rumsfeld has cost the lives of many of our young people. That is a fact. The call for more troops after the occupation, in order to stabilize Baghdad, was not met. Letting the Iraqi army go, with their weapons, was the beginning of the insurgency which is, Iraqi. Although there is now some co-mingling between the conparatively few muslim extremists who have infiltrated, the vast majoirty of insurgents are Iraqis. Many Generals have spoken to this, many books have address this point, and the vast majoirty of experienced hawks, such as John Murtha, 38 years of service to this country, agree that the mishandling of this war by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, has cost the lives of many of our young people, and greatly increased the numbers of dead and wounded, not to mention, lengthened the war.

Even aside from the many laws broken by this administration, their performance alone invites impeachment. Now that Americans have realized their incompetence, and the deceitful way they manipulated intelligence, and outright lied to us, there is nothing left for them but for George Bush to get out in front of the public and continue with his lies, deceit, and rhetoric. It won't work. We've all heard it many times before.

Reports are that impeachment discussions are spreading, not only on the hill, but accross the country.

By the way, Dick, John Dean's book, "Worse Than Nixon" gives detailed information on every law broken by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfled and Rice. Also, this new book, Cobra II, a commentary of the mishandling, and dogged refusal by this administration to heed the advice of many experienced people regarding the occupation, the unecessary loss of lives, and all round misjudgements of this bunch of inexperienced neocon idiots, who are destroying our country with their policies, both foreign and domestic.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
03-23-2006, 07:45 AM
I agree, and also I think it is important to note that the party in power, has shown their refusal to integrate input from the minority party. While neither Republicans or Democrats are perfect, it is after all the republican party which is in power, and the accusations of partisanship launched by the right, are nothing more than desparate attempts to dilute the observations of Americans who make their judgments according to the documented evidence of overwhelming incompetence of this administration. I do not hold Democrats responsible for this war, because they were intentionally given false, skewed, cherry picked intelligence by Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice. Powell has admitted as much. Democrats never saw the full spectrum of intelligence that Bush saw because it was deleted by this administration, people in the intelligenc field were intimidated, slandered, fired, and ignored if their reports did not go along with the predetermined decision to go to war with Iraq. The administration can deny all they want, but the film is there, proof, and a very good example of why press coverage is so important in the quest for truth.

When George Bush spoke in this weeks Press Conference, his intention was ever so clear...reading between the lines, meant nothing more than... "I have made this mess, and I intend to leave it to my successors to muddle through when I leave office. I am not leaving Iraq, and I am willing for more and more of our youth to die in the hope that my legacy will be saved, regardless of the fact that I had no right to go in there, lied about the reasons, and don't care enough how many die due to Rumsfeld's proven incompetency."

His Deer In The Headlights, quizical look when Helen Thomas asked him to tell the truth about why he went into Iraq, and started a war with a country which had never attacked us, and how he rationized such a decision, and again when he was asked if he thought there would come a time when all American troops were out of Iraq, was extremely revealing.

Not once, since he has gone into Iraq, has he put himself out there for answers to follow up questions from journalists, without cutting them off. Not once has he used anything but fear and rhetoric as tools to justify this war. Any supposed facts which he, and his partners in crime, have put forth, have been lies. His days of controling Americans by crying wolf, are coming to an end. Those who support him, are the ones who play into the hands of terrorists, not the opposite. Only the ignorant could think such a thing. Anyone who cares about our troops, should certainly insist that the press continue to tell us the truth about what is happening in Iraq. It is blatant partisanship, to endeavor to silence the press, or suggest that the function of news and truth, reaching the homeland during wartime, is somehow an act of support for the enemy. What an absolutely blind, ignorant and ridiculous notion.

Gayle in Md.....

pooltchr
03-23-2006, 09:42 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> I agree, and also I think it is important to note that the party in power, has shown their refusal to integrate input from the minority party. While neither Republicans or Democrats are perfect, it is after all the republican party which is in power, and the accusations of partisanship launched by the right, are nothing more than desparate attempts to dilute the observations of Americans who make their judgments according to the documented evidence of overwhelming incompetence of this administration. I do not hold Democrats responsible for this war, because they were intentionally given false, skewed, cherry picked intelligence by Bush, Cheney, Powell and Rice. Powell has admitted as much. Democrats never saw the full spectrum of intelligence that Bush saw because it was deleted by this administration, people in the intelligenc field were intimidated, slandered, fired, and ignored if their reports did not go along with the predetermined decision to go to war with Iraq. The administration can deny all they want, but the film is there, proof, and a very good example of why press coverage is so important in the quest for truth.

When George Bush spoke in this weeks Press Conference, his intention was ever so clear...reading between the lines, meant nothing more than... "I have made this mess, and I intend to leave it to my successors to muddle through when I leave office. I am not leaving Iraq, and I am willing for more and more of our youth to die in the hope that my legacy will be saved, regardless of the fact that I had no right to go in there, lied about the reasons, and don't care enough how many die due to Rumsfeld's proven incompetency."

His Deer In The Headlights, quizical look when Helen Thomas asked him to tell the truth about why he went into Iraq, and started a war with a country which had never attacked us, and how he rationized such a decision, and again when he was asked if he thought there would come a time when all American troops were out of Iraq, was extremely revealing.

Not once, since he has gone into Iraq, has he put himself out there for answers to follow up questions from journalists, without cutting them off. Not once has he used anything but fear and rhetoric as tools to justify this war. Any supposed facts which he, and his partners in crime, have put forth, have been lies. His days of controling Americans by crying wolf, are coming to an end. Those who support him, are the ones who play into the hands of terrorists, not the opposite. Only the ignorant could think such a thing. Anyone who cares about our troops, should certainly insist that the press continue to tell us the truth about what is happening in Iraq. It is blatant partisanship, to endeavor to silence the press, or suggest that the function of news and truth, reaching the homeland during wartime, is somehow an act of support for the enemy. What an absolutely blind, ignorant and ridiculous notion.

Gayle in Md.....

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For some reason, I have an overwhelming urge to quote one of Chevy Chase's more memorable lines from the old SNL in response to this. Those of you old enough to remember, know exactly what I'm thinking.
Steve

Gayle in MD
03-23-2006, 05:52 PM
Dick,
I meant to say, "Worse Than Watergate" Not worse than Nixon...
sorry...
gayle

Drop1
03-23-2006, 08:17 PM
We have been betrayed into a war,by Bush,Cheny,Powell,and Rice. Bush,Cheny and Powell dupped Blair with false information,and then lied to the American people,saying British Intelligence had evidence Saddam was in the process of creating weapons of mass destruction. I doubt leaders in the world takes Rice seriously,and I don't understand how Powell is not an anti Iraq war leader. Bush,and Cheney are just plain psychopathic liars. Now it is true all four,are Republicans,and when we go to the polls, I hope we look at each candidate,and what position they took,after 9/11 and the patriotic rush to judgement,that caused many to believe Bush,and vote for war.

Gayle in MD
03-24-2006, 06:28 AM
Hi again Drop,

And now we have a patriotic rush to deny facts, which is, BTW, alive and well here on this forum, LOL.


You would enjoy John Dean's book, "Worse Than Watergate" as he points out very clearly how many laws have been broken by Bush, Cheney and Rice...and also, includes the factual information regarding how much available intelligence was never shared with the representatives. I think that those who have come out and admitted that had they known about all the hidden and exaggerated information given out by the administration, they would never have voted to give Bush the free pass they gave him. They have to be given some credit for atleast acknowledging their mistake.

Although Bush has said over and over "They saw the same intelligence that I saw." That is another lie, the intelligence which did not support the myth that Saddam had WMD's, and was an immediate threat to our National Security, was not included in what the representatives saw, .... Joe Wilson's article was certainly proof that they culled out what did not support their lies, and they're eventual ommission of the sixteen words regarding Saddam's supposed purchase or attempted purchase of yellow cake in Niger, in Bush's State Of The Union Address, leading up to the invasion, is certainly proof of that.

Feingold, BTW, did not vote yes....Murtha voted yes, but soon admitted to the mistake once he learned the truth, and realized that he had been lied to by Bush.

Gayle in Md.

DickLeonard
03-24-2006, 06:36 AM
DEbra George Bush is as much a terriost as Osama. Our bombs killed far more people than 911. An unprovoked war because some one is trying to build a bomb to fight someone with 10,000 bombs. That is like Willie Pep fighting Mohammed Ali. Iran has every right to make a bomb because we have shown that we do not obey International Law. Iraq allowed the UN into their country to search for WMD and we still attacked them. There is no excuse for our behavior. Were Rats plain and simple.####

Play with fire your going to get burned.

Gayle in MD
03-24-2006, 06:49 AM
Tap Tap Tap.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

How is Bush different from hitler. Wasn't Hitler intending to impose HIS ideology on the world, also? Bush is trying to force feed Democracy on the world, with guns and bombs....sound familiar? Our country was not founded on the principles of nation building, something that Bush himself spoke out against in his own campaign, along with deficit spending, just to name two ways he mislead his constituants.

He accuses Americans of being protectionists, and isolationists, when he is running the most protectionist, isolated administrated in the history of the country!

He's going down, down, down....along with the whole ivey league neocon corporate fascists who are destroying America.

Gayle in Md.

Deeman3
03-24-2006, 06:53 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Drop1:</font><hr> We have been betrayed into a war,by Bush,Cheny,Powell,and Rice. <font color="blue"> You poor witless dupe, how dare they take advantage of your naive nature.</font color> Bush,Cheny and Powell dupped Blair with false information,and then lied to the American people,saying British Intelligence had evidence Saddam was in the process of creating weapons of mass destruction. <font color="blue"> Another victim in the long line of betrayal by a lousey president that may be a little smarter than the oppostition and took advantage of their simple minds. </font color> I doubt leaders in the world takes Rice seriously,and I don't understand how Powell is not an anti Iraq war leader. <font color="blue">Yes, I don't understand why he doesn't pull a Murtha as well. </font color> Bush,and Cheney are just plain psychopathic liars. <font color="blue"> Plain psychopathic liars? As poiliticians they should be "Outstanding Liars", at least. </font color> Now it is true all four,are Republicans,and when we go to the polls, I hope we look at each candidate,and what position they took,after 9/11 and the patriotic rush to judgement,that caused many to believe Bush,and vote for war. <font color="blue">Good idea. Only vote for a presidential candidate that voted against the war. Better tell your top ten candidates they made a big mistake in voting for the war to protect their presidential aspirations. Maybe they can change their vote now. </font color> <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> If you feel betrayed, vote for Dennis Kusinich, he'll tell us the truth and protect us as well. LOL </font color>

Deeman

eg8r
03-24-2006, 07:48 AM
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DEbra George Bush is as much a terriost as Osama. <hr /></blockquote> He is only a terrorist if those he is attacking feel terror. They don't, they have a feeling of freedom and willingness to die for their religion. They are hardly terrified. They think Allah will save them, but sometimes blind bravado will get you killed.

eg8r

Qtec
03-24-2006, 08:33 AM
Who are 'they'?
How many terroists died in the bombing of Bahgdad? My guess is 0.
Do you think that the civilians in that city were'nt terrified?

Since being in office, GW has threatened NK, Syria, Iran, Afgahnistan and Iraq. makes you wonder how he finds time to take more vacation time than any other President! /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[ and almost DOUBLE the Nat Debt.]

Q /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

pooltchr
03-24-2006, 08:33 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> DEbra George Bush is as much a terriost as Osama. Our bombs killed far more people than 911. An unprovoked war because some one is trying to build a bomb to fight someone with 10,000 bombs. That is like Willie Pep fighting Mohammed Ali. Iran has every right to make a bomb because we have shown that we do not obey International Law. Iraq allowed the UN into their country to search for WMD and we still attacked them. There is no excuse for our behavior. Were Rats plain and simple.####

Play with fire your going to get burned. <hr /></blockquote>

If you really believe that, why not just pack your bags and move to some country that is more to your liking???

pooltchr
03-24-2006, 08:34 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> Tap Tap Tap.... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

How is Bush different from hitler. =Gayle in Md. <hr /></blockquote>
And it you really believe that, you can join him. I can't believe you can sit in your nice comfy bayside home and compare our president to Hitler.
Take 6 paxil and call me in the morning. You are a blowhard, elitist, paranoid woman. You need help!

eg8r
03-24-2006, 10:33 AM
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How many terroists died in the bombing of Bahgdad? My guess is 0. <hr /></blockquote> LOL, you are not very good at guessing. Don't waste your time on the lotto if you ever come back to the states.

[ QUOTE ]
Do you think that the civilians in that city were'nt terrified?
<hr /></blockquote> Nah, they were overjoyed that we were there freeing them from Saddam. They were probably scared/terrified that a possible bomb might run errant but overall the enjoyment of knowing they would no longer live in fear of Saddam far outweighed the time during the bombing. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Since being in office, GW has threatened NK, Syria, Iran, Afgahnistan and Iraq. makes you wonder how he finds time to take more vacation time than any other President! <hr /></blockquote> Nope, it is hard work tearing down the terrorists. What I actually wonder about is why he has not gone forth and taken out Syria, Iran and NK while he is at it. Heck drop Syria time is running out. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Syria will get their own time. You see, according to Gayle we will be getting a Dem president next go around. That will work out just perfect. The new president can appease the rest of the world and coddle the terrorists. At the same time the US citizens will continue to ask the government to take care of them more and more slowly moving us in the direction of a socialist/marxists country. Then from out of the blue, another Bush will scream to the White House and blow up Syria during his first year of Presidency. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif Palestine will object and they will be bombed the next night. We will at this time ship the United Nations to Europe and let the young French rioters and Muslims defend them.

eg8r

wolfdancer
03-24-2006, 10:39 AM
Luke 23:34:

DickLeonard
03-24-2006, 12:38 PM
Pooltchr I have to stay here and protest to the death that we're marching like Hitler. Of course we don't have Concentration CAmps here we have them in Cooba.####

Gayle in MD
03-24-2006, 02:10 PM
BWA HA HA HA HA...You're a real American Patriot, LMAO...do you really think I care what you think about me???

Hey, Believe me, George Bush didn't put me where I am today...this comfy bayside home is the result of two people who worked hard, and employed thirty to forty people, and never dumped any of them in hard times, either, we paid them out of our pockets, and matched their savings, too...if the business owners of today were like we were, this country wouldn't be in the mess it's in....

Don't worry, Bush is going to hell in a hand basket, but his Arab Buddies will take care of him, and his Daddy, just like they have for the last twenty-five or thirty years...it's just a damn shame that thousands of poor and middle class young people had to die so the Bush's and the Cheney's could make even more money off the Arabs, in their behind the scenes, overt covert deal's with the Arabs to overthrow Saddam, and start this stupid, ill advised war.

As for you, I'm really worried about your blood pressure, LMAO, maybe you should learn to meditate or something...you seem to be under the false impression that this country does not allow free speech, or is that only for insulting republican pseudo patriots, who watch faux news,

Gayle in Md.

DebraLiStarr
03-24-2006, 02:19 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> Pooltchr I have to stay here and protest to the death that we're marching like Hitler. Of course we don't have Concentration CAmps here we have them in Cooba.####
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Dick

I have the utmost respect for you, but your comments to me are extremely anti-American. Like Steve said, if you don't like it, pack your $hit and leave. Have you ever fought in a war or any conflict? How will you respond to the veterans that come home injured from this war? Will you respect their brave sacrifice or view them as part of what you wrote? I'm tired of hearing that Bush and the republican party is what is wrong with America. What is wrong is attitudes like yours. Sorry, just calling it the way I see it.

BTW, its Cuba. If you're so upset, start a campaign in your local neighborhood to release all of the innocent people held at Guantanamo. It would be interesting to see how popular your stance really is in America. Remember, if you're not on our side, you're on their's. I see nothing different from your stance on Iraq from Jane Fonda's stance on Viet Nam. Sorry, to me there is no difference.


Debra Li

DickLeonard
03-25-2006, 08:24 AM
Steve being 100% Irish I can get dual citizenship and I love Guiness. But I think I will stay in New York until we collect the Giant settlement from the Coal burning smokestacks that the Idiot GWB allowed built by throwing out the Clean Air Act.

The Anti God of the Corporations, Elliot Spitzer took them and the EPA to Court and of course he won. How could the EPA go against clean air. Only with an Idiot in the Oval Office. When we get our trillions in damages I will take mine and go to Ireland.

I won't be able to wait the 100 years for the Fish to Comeback to Capistrano.####

DickLeonard
03-25-2006, 08:36 AM
Debra I will send you Herman Goering testimony at the Nuerenburg Trials after World War 11. His method for going to war is the same being used by GWB. Protesters are called unpatriotic. How easy it is to leed the Sheep,We are going to be attacked,national fever is stimulated.

You have fallen into the mindset that anyone against is not patriotic when in Reality we are the Patriots. We can read the Constitution, we know when the laws are being broken and we know when we are and have been lied to. It is Hitler all over again. It will take a little time but I will email you. ####

Gayle in MD
03-25-2006, 08:52 AM
BRAVO my friend. Fortunately, we are not all hypnotized by fear and intimidation, and confused by propaganda and rhetoric. The truly paranoid, are those who would give up their freedoms, before they would question the law breakers who are using attack methods against those who see through their lies and lawbreaking, and sacrifice the lives of our youth for the purpose of forcing their kind of government on a country which does not want us on their land, and with the spoken intention to "Spread Democracy" on others by occupying their countries, with guns and bombs, and killing their civilian population who rise up against the occupation.


This war is about oil, and the long standing business relationships between George Bush, Jr. and Sr., and the Arab dictators. There has never been any intention on Bush's part to do anything other than to build permanent bases in Iraq, and to continue America's so called addiction, promoted by the Bush family, and their love of oil profits, to the detriment of the ecology of the world, hence, they silence scientists who tell the truth about global warming, as the Ice Cap melts, and the seashores vanish.

Gayle in Md.
Proud I didn't vote for George Bush!

DickLeonard
03-25-2006, 10:27 AM
Gayle I was going to respond but then I figured Ed would say we're patting each other on back. ####

Gayle in MD
03-25-2006, 11:42 AM
Ed who? LMAO... BTW, Did he sign up yet?

Hey Dick, you know Bush is not paying any attention to the Polls, /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif and it's just a coincidence that the last time he sent Laura out on a media trip, was when his polls were in the trash! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'm sure the Terrorist Warnings will be raised on the color scale soon, /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif but never fear, Our great protectors, the republicans, will be right on the money, with plenty of life saving advice, tuna under the bed, powdered milk, duct tape and plastic, nothing to worry about!

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BTW, don't miss CNN tonight. A reporter who has been personally making videos of the war, while he is holed up in his hotel room, waiting for armed escorts to take him out in the boonies, searching for positive shots of improvments, will be releasing the videos of all the Improvments in Iraq, but don't watch it while you're eating you may lose your appetite!

It's a real commentary of how thrilled Iraqis must obviously be over our occupation!
We can't get them all potable water, or constant electricity, but Bush is building four massive Army facilities, one with McDonalds and Wendy's on sight! It's just temporary of course, until the conditions on the ground warrent a swift de-ployment of our troops! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Drop1
03-25-2006, 12:50 PM
Twelve million square yards of concrete for helicopter landings,and take offs,complete with fast food locations,and recreation areas,tells me we ain't leaving,and thats only one of several facilities being built. The dynamics are changing, we want a continued presence near Iran. As far as Bush is concerned,the Iraqies can screw themselves. We only went to Iraq,to build a powerful military presence in the Middle East. American dollars making the world safe for America.

eg8r
03-27-2006, 08:59 AM
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Ed who? LMAO... BTW, Did he sign up yet? <hr /></blockquote>LOL, oh you know who. Are you the President yet?

eg8r

eg8r
03-27-2006, 09:02 AM
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BWA HA HA HA HA...You're a real American Patriot, LMAO...do you really think I care what you think about me???

Hey, Believe me, <hr /></blockquote> You don't care what they think but you want them to believe you. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif What a crock.

eg8r

hondo
04-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Absolutely. In fact the missus and I are thinking
about vacationing in Baghdad this summer. Ask your
buddy over there where I can find some action.
I heard there's some really good "shooters" over
there. But if I'm playing some guy named Sunni
&amp; he misses a shot &amp; says" Holy shi-ite" I'm
gettin the hell out of Dodge.



This is a bit odd, but I got a call at work yesterday from a guy in Iraq who was ordering some pool cues and supplies. I asked him, and he told me people in the city are going about their normal business. Yes, he said there is still gunfire heard in some areas, but people are dealing with it and going about with their lives. He told me they are playing pool on 6 tables at the old republican guard palace. No, it's not the best environment, but hardly as bad as you are making it out to be.
That was straight from one of our guys stationed over there.
Steve <hr /></blockquote>

Gayle in MD
04-08-2006, 12:49 PM
Ah HA HA HA HA...too funny Hondo!

Gayle in Md.
So Proud That I Did Not Vote For George Bush!