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Billy_Bob
04-27-2006, 10:03 AM
1. Breaking: Cue Ball Leave…
(Cue ball left in central area of table after break.)
1. 0% – 20% of breaks.
2. 21% – 40% of breaks.
3. 41% - 60% of breaks.
4. 61% - 80% of breaks.
5. 81% - 100% of breaks.

2. Breaking: Distribution of Balls…
(Balls evenly distributed over entire table after break.)
1. 0% – 20% of breaks.
2. 21% – 40% of breaks.
3. 41% - 60% of breaks.
4. 61% - 80% of breaks.
5. 81% - 100% of breaks.

3. Breaking: Clusters after Break
(Balls near each other or touching each other after break.)
1. No clusters 0% – 20% of breaks.
2. No clusters 21% – 40% of breaks.
3. No clusters 41% - 60% of breaks.
4. No clusters 61% - 80% of breaks.
5. No clusters 81% - 100% of breaks.

4. Breaking: Ball Made on Break
(At least one ball pocketed on break.)
1. 0% – 20% of breaks.
2. 21% – 40% of breaks.
3. 41% - 60% of breaks.
4. 61% - 80% of breaks.
5. 81% - 100% of breaks.

5. Speed Control Skills...
(Can shoot at exact speed needed for shot and necessary for cue ball leave.)
1. Shoots too fast for every shot
2. Can sometimes shoot slowly
3. Can shoot slow, medium, or fast
4. Ability to shoot straight or cut shot and leave object ball on rail or in front of pocket
5. Ability to shoot straight, cut, bank, or kick shot and leave object ball on rail or in front of pocket

6. Position Skills...
(Can leave cue ball in good position for next shot.)
1. 0% – 20% of shots.
2. 21% – 40% of shots.
3. 41% - 60% of shots.
4. 61% - 80% of shots.
5. 81% - 100% of shots.

7. Breakout Skills…
(Shoot ball into pocket and try to break out a cluster or trouble ball in same shot.)
1. 0% – 20% of attempts.
2. 21% – 40% of attempts.
3. 41% - 60% of attempts.
4. 61% - 80% of attempts.
5. 81% - 100% of attempts.

8. Runout Skills...
(Number of balls you can pocket in a row.)
1. Have trouble pocketing 1 ball
2. Can run 1 to 2 balls
3. Can run 3 to 5 balls
4. Can run 6 to 8 balls
5. Can usually run out 8 balls

9. Safety Skills...
(Can play a good safety which leaves opponent with no direct shot at one of his balls.)
1. 0% – 20% of attempts.
2. 21% – 40% of attempts.
3. 41% - 60% of attempts.
4. 61% - 80% of attempts.
5. 81% - 100% of attempts.

10. Kicking: Cue Ball Contacts Your Object Ball...
(Shoot cue ball to rail, then cue ball comes off rail and contacts your ball.)
1. 0% – 20% of attempts.
2. 21% – 40% of attempts.
3. 41% - 60% of attempts.
4. 61% - 80% of attempts.
5. 81% - 100% of attempts.

11. Kicking: Object Ball is Pocketed in Called Pocket…
(Kick shot which results in object ball being pocketed into the pocket you called.)
1. 0% – 20% of attempts.
2. 21% – 40% of attempts.
3. 41% - 60% of attempts.
4. 61% - 80% of attempts.
5. 81% - 100% of attempts.

12. Banking Skills...
(Shoot bank shot and object ball is pocketed in the pocket you called.)
1. 0% – 20% of attempts.
2. 21% – 40% of attempts.
3. 41% - 60% of attempts.
4. 61% - 80% of attempts.
5. 81% - 100% of attempts.

13. Innings Per Game...
(Turns you need at the table on average to pocket all your balls and win the game.)
1. 5 or more
2. 4
3. 3
4. 2
5. 1

14. Inning Ends in Missed Shot…
(Attempt to pocket ball, but ball does not go into pocket.)
1. 81% - 100% of ended innings.
2. 61% - 80% of ended innings.
3. 41% - 60% of ended innings.
4. 21% – 40% of ended innings.
5. 0% – 20% of ended innings.

15. Inning Ends in Good Safety…
(Your turn at the table [inning] ends by your playing of a good safety.)
1. 0% – 20% of ended innings.
2. 21% – 40% of ended innings.
3. 41% - 60% of ended innings.
4. 61% - 80% of ended innings.
5. 81% - 100% of ended innings.

16. Ability to Play Under Pressure…
(Team pressure to win match, playing for 1st place, etc.)
1. Pressure disrupts playing 81% - 100% of games.
2. Pressure disrupts playing 61% - 80% of games.
3. Pressure disrupts playing 41% - 60% of games.
4. Pressure disrupts playing 21% – 40% of games.
5. Pressure disrupts playing 0% – 20% of games.

17. Ability to Play Well While Being Distracted or Sharked…
(Loud noise, someone walking/standing in front of your shot, sharking by opponent, etc.)
1. Distractions disrupt playing 81% - 100% of games.
2. Distractions disrupt playing 61% - 80% of games.
3. Distractions disrupt playing 41% - 60% of games.
4. Distractions disrupt playing 21% – 40% of games.
5. Distractions disrupt playing 0% – 20% of games.

Your 8-Ball Skill Rating...

1. Breaking: Cue Ball Leave:
2. Breaking: Distribution of Balls:
3. Breaking: Clusters after Break:
4. Breaking: Ball Made on Break:
5. Speed Control Skills:
6. Position Skills:
7. Breakout Skills:
8. Runout Skills:
9. Safety Skills:
10. Kicking: Cue Ball Contacts Your Object Ball:
11. Kicking: Object Ball is Pocketed in Called Pocket:
12. Banking Skills:
13. Innings Per Game:
14. Inning Ends in Missed Shot:
15. Inning Ends in Good Safety:
16. Ability to Play Under Pressure:
17. Ability to Play Well While Being Distracted or Sharked:

Your 8-Ball Skill Rating Average:
(Total of above numbers divided by 17.)

Billy_Bob
04-27-2006, 10:04 AM
My 8-ball skill rating playing on a bar table...

1. Breaking: Cue Ball Leave: 3
2. Breaking: Distribution of Balls: 3
3. Breaking: Clusters after Break: 2
4. Breaking: Ball Made on Break 3
5. Speed Control Skills: 4
6. Position Skills: 4
7. Breakout Skills: 3
8. Runout Skills: 4
9. Safety Skills: 3
10. Kicking: Cue Ball Contacts Your Object Ball: 3
11. Kicking: Object Ball is Pocketed in Called Pocket: 1
12. Banking Skills: 3
13. Innings Per Game: 3
14. Inning Ends in Missed Shot: 3
15. Inning Ends in Good Safety: 3
16. Ability to Play Under Pressure: 5
17. Ability to Play Well While Being Distracted or Sharked: 5

8-Ball Skill Rating Average: 3.24

DickLeonard
04-28-2006, 05:29 AM
BillyBob what pool needs is what Golf has someone to hold up the quiet sign. I have posted before about watching a dart match in Watervliet NY, between Watervliets best Danny Trioni and the "Lord of the Board" from Conn. It was my first experience with a Dart Match.

The bar was packed with people betting on the game. They played with the large wooden darts and the Toohey Dart board.There was two seperate boxes a small one for doubles and a large one for singles and the bullseye or cork in the middle. The Lord when it was his choice of games he played nine innings of BaseBall and when Triani had the choice he chose Bullseyes or Corks.

I was standing next to Tony Jannero the welterweight boxer who was betting on the Lord so I took Danny. When the shooters approached the line everyone in the place started screaming either for or against the shooter.

Well the Lord turkeyed his first 6 games of Baseball that meant that he scored 54 the maximum for 6 straight games. Danny could only shoot 50 or 51. In Corks Danny had the edge shooting 25 corks a game while the Lord only hit in the low 20s. How anyone could maintain that level of skill with all the ruckus was beyond me. When I watch Golfers having spectators removed from the Gallery I say to myself what would these Prima Donna's do in a Dart Match.####

tdurden87
04-28-2006, 02:25 PM
Does anyone know of any good games to play to determine how good ( / bad /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif) you are?

hhilario
04-28-2006, 05:54 PM
1. Breaking: Cue Ball Leave: 2
2. Breaking: Distribution of Balls: 4
3. Breaking: Clusters after Break: 3
4. Breaking: Ball Made on Break: 4
5. Speed Control Skills: 3
6. Position Skills: 3
7. Breakout Skills: 2
8. Runout Skills: 3
9. Safety Skills: 3
10. Kicking: Cue Ball Contacts Your Object Ball: 4
11. Kicking: Object Ball is Pocketed in Called Pocket: 1
12. Banking Skills: 2
13. Innings Per Game: 1
14. Inning Ends in Missed Shot: 3
15. Inning Ends in Good Safety: 3
16. Ability to Play Under Pressure: 2
17. Ability to Play Well While Being Distracted or Sharked: 2

Average 2.65. I'm playing pretty bad, no?

Stretch
04-28-2006, 06:19 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tdurden87:</font><hr> Does anyone know of any good games to play to determine how good ( / bad /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif) you are? <hr /></blockquote>

Tournaments useually thin the heard out rather quickly. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I would think that to get an accurate rating you'd really need someone else to chart you during serious compatition. To do it yourself on the practice table, under ideal conditions, on a familiar table, No distractions, nothing at stake well........big deal.

It could have applications for practice sessions though. It's a great breakdown of pool skills. St.

Billy_Bob
04-29-2006, 07:52 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote hhilario:</font><hr> 1. Breaking: Cue Ball Leave: 2
2. Breaking: Distribution of Balls: 4
3. Breaking: Clusters after Break: 3
4. Breaking: Ball Made on Break: 4
5. Speed Control Skills: 3
6. Position Skills: 3
7. Breakout Skills: 2
8. Runout Skills: 3
9. Safety Skills: 3
10. Kicking: Cue Ball Contacts Your Object Ball: 4
11. Kicking: Object Ball is Pocketed in Called Pocket: 1
12. Banking Skills: 2
13. Innings Per Game: 1
14. Inning Ends in Missed Shot: 3
15. Inning Ends in Good Safety: 3
16. Ability to Play Under Pressure: 2
17. Ability to Play Well While Being Distracted or Sharked: 2

Average 2.65. I'm playing pretty bad, no? <hr /></blockquote>

I would not look at the above as playing good or bad, but would look at it as pointing out areas you can work on to improve your playing. Note that I would probably have had a rating around 1 four years ago!

I thought I knew what I needed to work on, but after I rated myself, it was quite obvious there were other things I needed to work on.

So I would use this to give yourself feedback, work on specific areas, then watch yourself improve in future years.

hhilario
04-29-2006, 09:00 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Billy_Bob:</font><hr> I would not look at the above as playing good or bad, but would look at it as pointing out areas you can work on to improve your playing. <hr /></blockquote>

Actually, that is what I've been looking for: finding my weak areas. I've quit playing a few times and have been strugling with comming back; it's been hard to keep a good game. Thanks for the input.

Billy_Bob
04-29-2006, 09:14 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote hhilario:</font><hr> Actually, that is what I've been looking for: finding my weak areas... <hr /></blockquote>

I've had a lot of success playing in tournaments, then messing up with some particular shot - then remembering this shot real well because it cost me a match - then practicing that particular shot.

So over time I have worked on the things I am not very good at. Sometimes it takes months or even a year to work on one thing. But over time this has helped me to win more games.

So I think it is all the different little things - being able to do this, that, and another shot, which has really helped me.

I working on position now. This is a tough one. I think learning this skill might last the rest of my life before I get to where I know what I am doing! /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

BigRigTom
05-01-2006, 09:07 AM
This is an interesting list of skills and the 1st time I have seen it.
BillyBob, did you come up with this on your own or did you get it from somewhere else?

Billy_Bob
05-01-2006, 10:22 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote BigRigTom:</font><hr> This is an interesting list of skills and the 1st time I have seen it.
BillyBob, did you come up with this on your own or did you get it from somewhere else? <hr /></blockquote>

Yes I came up with this. Someone pointed out to me that the A, B, C, D ratings were for 9-ball on a 9 ft. table.

So I thought there should be something for 8-ball players who mostly play on bar tables.

And then once I did this, I also noticed that this was good feedback for myself to point out what I needed to work on.

And this is accurate! I think I rated myself a "1" for making the ball into a pocket with a kick shot. (Really bad) and I played a very good player one-pocket for my first time ever yesterday. He could shoot kick shots and make the ball into the pocket, I could not.

So I saw how I REALLY need to work on this area.

hhilario
05-04-2006, 05:32 PM
The last days I've had the chance to spend some time (2-3 hrs 3 times a week) on practice drills and paying attention to my failing areas and I tell you boy that I've seen the difference!
I truly believe that in a 3 - 4 weeks period my avarage will be better. I'll let you know by then.