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Cueless Joey
05-13-2006, 01:39 PM
A timely subject for today, eh?
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> Work Permits -- US Citizens Working in Mexico....
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> The following from a director with Southwest Bell in Mexico City:
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> I spent five years working in Mexico.
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> I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew
> it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I
> was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.
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> During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to
> secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US
> passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
> Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.
>
> To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized
> originals (not copies) of my:
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> 1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me.
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> 2. Marriage certificate.
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> 3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
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> 4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of
> graduation.
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> 5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for
> at least one year.
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> 6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no
> arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen
> in good
> standing."
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> 7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated
> why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were
> important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on
> earth" letter. It was fun to write.
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> All of the above were in English that had to be translated into
> Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures
> notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on
> the left side and Spanish on the right.
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> Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours
> accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office
> locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three
> times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we
> were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and
> that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We
> could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be
> committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and
> bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally
> bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Laredo,
> Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our
> goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.
>
> We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates
> and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
>
> We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing
> process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our
> headquarters location with their photography and finger print
> equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were
> photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly
> after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or
> driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road.
> Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if
> stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside
> window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have
> to pay ransom to get it back.
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> We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the
> number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants
> did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about
> twenty legal size pages annually.
>
> The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after
> paying more fees.
>
> Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were
> leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants,
> tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
>
> It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went
> through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
>
> The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to
> keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at
> their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front
> of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly
> reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military
> surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in
> full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown
> on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street
> where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as
> proposed law changes in California or Texas.
>
> Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being
> hard on illegal Mexican immigrants. Why can't we do the same as
> Mexico, what are we afraid of?? More to the point, what are the
> politicians and bureaucrats afraid of ??
>
>

nAz
05-13-2006, 02:07 PM
good post! too bad it won't change the minds of anyone on the wrong side of the illegal immigration "DEBATE"

Drop1
05-13-2006, 07:42 PM
I have a FM3,and it was easy as pie to get. I went to Mexican Immigration,got the forms,filled them out, paid the fees to a bank took the receipts back to immigration,and waited. I did have to give my last 3 prior bank statements,and passport,and copy of my marriage certificate. I never used a lawyer,and I was never hit up for money. The reason they call lawyers bananas in Mexico,is because they are all crooked. Now having said this,I can also say what the man said is all true,and different people have different experiences. Do not under any circumstances rely on the kindness of strangers. If you are robbed,do not call the police,because they will rob you too. When a bus hits someone,the driver will try to back over the person to make sure they are dead,because its cheaper to pay the funeral cost,than support the injuried person for life. I can get a Mexican drivers license for about thirty dollars,and I will never take any type of test.Mexicans will never accept responsibilty for any wrong doing on their part. Mexicans will never honor any written,or oral contract. If you think I'm wrong,marry a Mexican,and live with them in Mexico,for eight years.We did live in the States for thirty one years before moving to Mexico. The reason I live here,is I like it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gifI can bribe anyone.