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wolfdancer
05-18-2006, 10:35 AM
Barry Bonds says he is haunted by the ghost of Babe Ruth, and is currently hittin less then .200
I think he's just lost it....same thing happened to Willie Mays in his last year with the Mets....he couldn't get around on a fast ball anymore. Chances are, someone will lob a pitch into Barry,to go into the record books with him...and he'll break Ruth's record....but Aaron's is safe...for now.
I thought for awhile I had a chance to break Wilt's record, of 25,000 plus....but even if I count the ones that almost bit, and the ones that got away...I'm still way short, and now I got Barry's disease....dead wood

dg-in-centralpa
05-18-2006, 01:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr> I thought for awhile I had a chance to break Wilt's record, of 25,000 plus.... <hr /></blockquote>

Women?

Good luck.

DG

Drop1
05-18-2006, 07:18 PM
Do sheep count?

sack316
05-19-2006, 04:13 AM
Oh yeah, Hank is no doubt safe from Bonds. Although I'm not a Bonds fan at all, I do give him much respect for even being out there the limited time he is playing right now. He's pretty busted up and you can tell it's a struggle to even run... but he's out there giving it all he's got right now, so props for that.

I'm pretty sure the HR record will be broken over the next 10-20 years. A-Rod and Pujols are likely as the next contenders. But reguardless of who eventually breaks it, as impressive as it will be, it still won't be as impressive as Hank or Ruth's accomplishments. The game is too different now and is designed for the long ball and excitement. I mean, up until 1970 there were only 2 seasons in which the majors had a TOTAL of over 3000 dingers. Then in the 3000's became the norm, and now over the last 8 seasons there has yet to be a year that didn't pass the 5000 mark. Granted there are more teams now, but not so many more that would make that great of a difference.

Also, I about choked on my Dr. Pepper on that "dead wood" reference. Nice one /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sack

p.s. Bring back fields like the Polo Grounds... find a homer run hitter playing there regulary and then you've got a real slugger!

DickLeonard
05-19-2006, 07:02 AM
Sack316 didn't Mel Ott hit 512 as a Giant?####

wolfdancer
05-19-2006, 08:01 AM
I think Cleveland Stadium (before they added the fences),and the old Comiskey Park, were tough to hit one out of.
What makes Ruth so great in my mind,he was in a class by himself in that era.....he was the only guy really hitting HRs.
I'm a Barry Bonds fan though....for about 5 years, he seemed to hit every mistake that a pitcher threw.
There was a column printed by a sportwriter that I read a year or so ago. He took steroids for six months to do some research....he said he lost body fat, and gained muscle without working out, or dieting, and his vision improved, etc. He said if it wasn't so expensive he would have kept on taking HGH.

sack316
05-20-2006, 12:26 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> Sack316 didn't Mel Ott hit 512 as a Giant?#### <hr /></blockquote>

hey, good call there sir! Allow me to re-phrase. Find me a player who can regularly clear the center field wall of the old polo grounds (the 4th version of it... I'm actually not sure of the dimensions of 1 though 3) and then my friend you will have a true power hitter! If I'm not mistaken, I don't think anybody even ever as much as hit the wall in center---much less cleared it.

Sack

wolfdancer
05-20-2006, 10:35 AM
My memory is fading, but as I remember it was (420 -450)
to dead center
The guys are bigger and stronger now...but most of the long balls are pulled....
We had a stadium at home, in the int. league. Babe Ruth played for Baltimore when they were in the league???? and the local story was that only the Babe and Luke Easter, had cleared the centerfield scoreboard.
Luke would have set some records in the majors had they not had the ban against "Colored" players. He was the first Black player in the American league...but was in his 30's.
He ended up back in the int. league, finishing with Rochester,Ny....was popular throughout the league, and a big "draw".
He ended up working for TRW in Cleveland....and on payday, would take several guys checks over to the bar where they would cash them.....On his way back, he was killed during a robbery.

DickLeonard
05-20-2006, 11:19 AM
Sack316 if my memory serves me it was 465 ft to the flag pole which is now located at the Bolton Lake,Ny fire house. That is located on Lake George. Bolton Landing is suppose to be the home of Bill Gates ancestors.

I never learned how they managed to get that Gem.####

Cueless Joey
05-20-2006, 01:03 PM
JD's 56 game hitting streak.
Nolan Ryan's 7 no hitters.
Joe Louis's 25-title defenses as a hwywt.

wolfdancer
05-20-2006, 09:29 PM
They all look pretty safe...even though they claimed Joe had a "bum of the month" for many of his fights.
With the mega checks now....who's going to fight that much after becoming champ?

sack316
05-21-2006, 12:09 AM
found some cool info here for those interested:

Polo Grounds IV
Tenants: New York Giants (NL) 1911-1957; New York Yankees (AL) 1913-1922; New York Mets (NL) 1962-1963
Opened: June 28, 1911
First night game: May 24, 1940
Last game: September 18, 1963
Capacity: 34,000 (1911); 55,000 (1923)
Demolished: April 10, 1964

Architects: Henry B. Herts and Osborn Engineering (1912)
Construction: n/a
Owner: New York Giants
Cost: n/a

A.K.A.: Brush Stadium (1911 to 1919), Coogan’s Bluff, Coogan’s Hollow, Matty Schwab’s house, Harlem Meadow.

Location: Center field (SE), Eighth Avenue, then IRT elevated tracks, Harlem River, and Harlem River Drive; third base (NE), West 159th Street and IRT Rail Yards; home plate (NW), Bridge Park, then Harlem River Speedway, Coogan’s Bluff, and Croton Aqueduct; first base (SW), West 157th Street trace; same site as Polo Grounds (III); in the norther half of Coogan’s Hollow, 115 feet below Coogan’s Bluff.

Dimensions: Left Field: 277 (1911), 286.67 (1921), 279.67 (1923), 279 (1930), 280 (1943), 279 (1955); Left Field, second deck: 250; Left center, left of bullpen: 447; Left center, right of bullpen: 455; Front of clubhouse steps: 460; Center field: 433 (1911), 483 (1923), 484.75 (1927), 505 (1930), 430 (1931), 480 (1934), 430 (1938), 505 (1940), 490 (1943), 505 (1944), 448 (1945), 490 (1946), 484 (1947), 505 (1949), 483 (1952), 480 (1953), 483 (1954), 480 (1955), 475 (1962), 483 (1963); Bleacher corners: 425 when center field was 475; Right center, left of bullpen: 449; Right center, right of bullpen: 440; Right field: 256.25 (1921), 257.67 (1923), 257.5 (1931), 257.67 (1942), 259 (1943), 257.67 (1944); Right field, second deck photographers' perch: 249; Backstop: 65 (1942), 70 (1943), 65 (1944), 70 (1946), 74 (1949), 65 (1954), 74 (1955), 65 (1962); Foul territory: very large.

Fences (1911-22): Left to center: 10 (concrete); center: 20 (tarp); right-center: 10 (concrete); right field: 12 sloping to 11 at pole (concrete).

Fences (1923-63): Left field: 16.81 (concrete); left-center: 18 (concrete); point where left-center wall ended at bleachers: 12 (concrete); center-field bleachers wall: 8.5 (4.25 wire on top of 4.25 concrete) on both sides of clubhouse runway; center-field hitters’ background: 16.5 on both sides of clubhouse runway; center-field clubhouse: 60 high and 60 wide—50 high in 1963; center field, top of Longines Clock: 80; center field, top of right side of scoreboard: 71; center field, top of left side of scoreboard: 68; center field, top of middle of scoreboard: 64; center field, top of five right scoreboard windows: 57; center field, top of four left scoreboard windows: 55; center field, bottom of five right scoreboard windows: 53; center field, bottom of four left scoreboard windows: 48; center field, bottom of clubhouse scoreboard: 31; center field, top of rear clubhouse wall: 28; center field, top of front clubhouse wall: 19; center field, top of 14 lower clubhouse windows: 16; center field, bottom of 14 lower clubhouse windows: 11; center field clubhouse floor overhang: 8; center field, top of Eddie Grant Memorial: 5; center field, width of little office on top of lower clubhouse: 10; right-center: 12 (concrete); right field: 10.64 (concrete).



For those who didn't skimmed that, an amazing 505 ft. to dead center for several years there. Wow!

Sack

wolfdancer
05-21-2006, 09:07 AM
505ft ain't that far....just a 6 iron to clear the fences