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FatsRedux
10-22-2006, 11:29 AM
The conservative Republican base is mad as hell!

Deliver A Spanking

By Colin McNickle
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, October 22, 2006

I am your typical Republican "supervoter." That doesn't mean I have voted a straight ticket at the myriad outposts in three states in which I've watered my horse over the last 31 years. But it does mean I'm a reliably regular voter who's voted primarily for GOP candidates.

With the possibility of a missed primary in the early 1980s, I've voted in nearly every election since 1976. I was 17 when I cast my first ballot -- in Ohio, for Gerald Ford -- in that year's primary. Buckeye State election law allowed those under 18 to vote if they came of age by the November election.

But I'm seriously considering ending that streak this Nov. 7.......

Read the rest of the article here: Deliver a spanking (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/mcnickle/s_476009.html)

Gayle in MD
10-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Tap Tap Tap..good post, Fats

Gayle in Md.

pooltchr
10-23-2006, 01:26 PM
Anyone who thinks that they are doing a good thing by not voting is a moron....and we have too many morons voting as it is! So I say to anyone who thinks this way: "By all means, stay home on election day. Let the informed voters make the decision"
And while we are at it, Anyone who votes a straight party ticket rather than evaluating the individuals running for a particular office is probably a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic, and should probably stay home as well!!!
Steve

Gayle in MD
10-23-2006, 01:37 PM
Well, friend, as usual, we don't look at things in the same way, because, in my view, anyone who would go into a voting booth, after what we have witnessed the REPUBLICANS doing, and not doing, these last six years, and would even consider voting for ANY republican, unless it was a Republican who has spoken out from the beginning against Bush's War, and his lies, and I don't know of any who did, is voting strictly out of partisan interests, and not in the interest of our country, or our troops, who are presently being slaughtered in a Civil War, that we, and they, were lied into in the first place. Any vote, for a Republican, is a vote for more corruption, more lies, and more incompetence.

BTW, I voted for Reagan, and Ford, because I thought they were the best men for the job, at the time.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in Md.

wolfdancer
10-23-2006, 02:19 PM
Good post, an interesting article!!
"BTW, I voted for Reagan, and Ford, because I thought they were the best men for the job, at the time."

Traitor!!!!
I have to go with Steve though on this. You have to vote for the "man" (or in the Presidential election...the Woman) disregard their party affiliation to a degree, but decide on their stance on the key issues.
OR, and here's another idea from Nancy Reagan "Just say No", to the Republicans

http://www.wolfpark.org/Wolfpaper/640/Say_NO.jpg

Many Republican politicians question the GWB platform publicly...many more oppose it,but keep quiet out of party loyalty....and many would like to just forget the past 6 years of tragic mistakes, and get back to the ideals that the Republican party does stand for!

Gayle in MD
10-23-2006, 07:59 PM
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<hr /></blockquote> I have to go with Steve though on this. You have to vote for the "man" (or in the Presidential election...the Woman) disregard their party affiliation to a degree, but decide on their stance on the key issues.
OR, and here's another idea from Nancy Reagan "Just say No", to the Republicans [ QUOTE ]
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Normally, jack, I would agree with you, but not this election. IMO, the most important thing to do in this election, is to vote Republican out! We can't afford to keep them in, literally! They are wasting and spending money, and running up debt, like there's no tomorrow. And, they are selling us out to China, dismantling our laws, our rights, our privacy, and putting us in MORE danger! The NSE, says so. They are absolutely the worst EVER. We need to send a very strong message that we will not put up with this! There is no excuse for this level of corruption. A vote for a Republican, is a vote against America, against our safety, against the rule of law, against our Constitution, and against our troops. I believe that with all my heart!

Gayle in Md.

pooltchr
10-24-2006, 05:41 AM
Gayle,
I will agree that this administration has certainly departed from the traditional Republican way of thinking. In fact, they are more like Democrats than some Democrats! The liberal spending policies alone are worse than any I have seen in my lifetime from either party.

Historically, however, the Democrats have been the party that has cut military spending to allow more money for their social programs. They have also been the party that has increased taxes at the greater rate. I fail to see how loading up congress with Democrats will improve our economic situation. I would prefer to replace them with true fiscal conservatives. That is why I believe it is more important than ever to look at the individual, rather than their jersey, when making an intelligent choice in the election. The house is where all spending bills originate. I don't think a house led by Nancy P is what this country needs right now.
Steve

Gayle in MD
10-24-2006, 06:42 AM
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<hr /></blockquote> Gayle,
I will agree that this administration has certainly departed from the traditional Republican way of thinking. In fact, they are more like Democrats than some Democrats! The liberal spending policies alone are worse than any I have seen in my lifetime from either party. No question about that!

Historically, however, the Democrats have been the party that has cut military spending to allow more money for their social programs. My observations seem to suggest, the more weapons you men hoard up, the more often you chose to use them too quickly, for matters which can and should be settled through negotiations and diplomacy. This country will never find itself short on weapons, that's for sure! Further, If Bush's policies weren't so anti American Based Manufacting, and he and the Republicans had addressed the failure of our Trade circumstances, we'd have enough of a Steel industry, right here, to gear up for anything, on short order. They have also been the party that has increased taxes at the greater rate. Make a choice, what do you want, pay now, or rob your kids and grandkids of their future. All of you overplay the tax issue. It is a moot point, given our huge deficits. All Bush had done is line the pockets of China. The interest alone, on our debts, could build plenty of guns for you boys to play with. What kind of army do you have now? Many say, a broken army. Let's look at the facts, instead of buying into Republican rhetoric. I fail to see how loading up congress with Democrats will improve our economic situation. Given our debt, how much worse could it get? I would prefer to replace them with true fiscal conservatives. Really, isn't that what you did the last tow elections? Look where we are now! The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Bush's people use interesting accounting practices. If you would study the actual financial circumstances we're in, I doubt seriously, you'd be interested in moare of the same. Just one example, Clinton produced many more jobs, if you average his numbers, instead of what the Republcians do, using the figures over just the last three years. That is why I believe it is more important than ever to look at the individual, rather than their jersey, when making an intelligent choice in the election. Absolute power has been a disaster for this country. The last thing we need, and it really should be obvious to all, is a continuation of Republican power, and control. Good God, man, how many more examples of cronyism, and fiscal incompetence, andsheer wast of money, and corruption do you need to realize that these Republicans are robbing all of us! Why would you vote for more of the same? The house is where all spending bills originate. I don't think a house led by Nancy P is what this country needs right now.
Steve [ QUOTE ]
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Well Steve, I learned a good deal about Nancy Pelosi recently, and I like what I've learned. She raised five children, has five grand children. Got into politicas after raising her kids by getting involved in her community, and volunteering. She has been one of the few to speak up consistantly against this bunch of thieves, and Bush's failures, and is full of good ideas, and plans for how we can straighten this country out. She is known for her excellent organizational style, and I find her views to be very psoitive for our country. I do know, and I don't mean this in a nasty way, at all, that according to my studies, the men in the southern states, STILL, are put off by seeing a woman in power. More often than not, when I hear someone rail against Nancy Pelosi, it is done by a man, and when it is a woman, it seems to be a woman whose short on personal acheivement, often under the thumb of some man. Hence, Hillary and Nancy are often the brunt of bad press right here on this board AND she had enough sense not to vote for this war, nor did Barack Obama. I don't know what your gripe is, about Nancy Pelosi, but she certainly wasn't snorting cocaine, or drunk, and partying on daddy's money in her early years, nor does she have deep ties to oil and arabs, nor has she been in leadership of a party which has given us a continuous display failed leadership of a party of thieves, indicted perverts and corrupted -public servants.[/b] But, you needn't worry, with all the optimism on the Republican side, I'm sure Deibold, is already, shall we say, ready for the election.

Gayle in Md. Very proud of Nancy Pelosi, and many other Democrats!

SpiderMan
10-25-2006, 09:15 AM
I've always maintained that, for all practical purposes, there is very little difference in how we'd be governed by either of the two parties. I like to refer to them as the left and right wings of a single party, "American Socialists".

But the author you cite has come up with an interesting quote that I'll probably steal - "It's like choosing which of two ugly sisters to take on a date" /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SpiderMan

hondo
10-25-2006, 09:40 AM
I'm 58 and have never voted a straight ticket in my
life. I am so disgusted with the current President
and Congress that that is about to change. Maybe.

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote pooltchr:</font><hr> Anyone who thinks that they are doing a good thing by not voting is a moron....and we have too many morons voting as it is! So I say to anyone who thinks this way: "By all means, stay home on election day. Let the informed voters make the decision"
And while we are at it, Anyone who votes a straight party ticket rather than evaluating the individuals running for a particular office is probably a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic, and should probably stay home as well!!!
Steve <hr /></blockquote>

hondo
10-25-2006, 09:43 AM
Yes. As Drop said even Bush is trying to distance himself
from himself.