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pooltchr
11-14-2006, 03:56 PM
Seems party affiliation means nothing when it comes to those cute young pages!

PIERRE, S.D. - A state senator accused of sexual misconduct with an 18-year-old page resigned Tuesday rather than be judged by his colleagues, but said he intends to show up for the new South Dakota legislative term that begins in January.

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Democrat Dan Sutton's lawyer said the lawmaker did not want to be judged by a lame-duck Senate in a special session led by some of his political enemies.

The session had been scheduled for Nov. 27 to look into allegations that Sutton groped a male high school student who served as a page. Lawmakers could have expelled, censured or otherwise disciplined or exonerated Sutton.

Despite the allegations, Sutton, 36, was re-elected last week to a new two-year term with 57 percent of the vote.

The new Senate seated in January can take up the issue.

Sutton's lawyers have said he did nothing wrong. No criminal charges have been filed.

The scandal arose while Congress was investigating Mark Foley's sexually explicit computer


Steve

Drop1
11-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Is he still presumed to be innocent? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pooltchr
11-14-2006, 06:11 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Drop1:</font><hr> Is he still presumed to be innocent? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Everyone in this country is presummed innocent until proven guilty.
I do find it odd that he would resign, then plan to resume his position in January for the new session when his party will be in control....guess he felt he would have a better chance facing a majority of Democrats. Why do you suppose that is???
Steve

Drop1
11-14-2006, 06:30 PM
I think the bastard is guilty.
Rev.Swiver

DickLeonard
11-15-2006, 06:02 AM
Pooltchr an unsupported allegation is a little different than a trail of emails. But it is nice to see your reading news instead of what ever you were reading or weren't reading before George and Dick and Karl got their wake up call.

I am sorry George can't be awaken from his stupor, when Jim Baker told him the only solution in Iraq is to put Saddam back in Power and get the hell out of there. He has totally screwed up the balance of power in the Middle East and Iran will control everything within 20 years.

Saudia Arabia will be next on their list to be overthrown and the Prince's are extremely worried about their fiefdom, all 9 thousand of them.

So as you can see I have more important things to worry about than a page.####

pooltchr
11-15-2006, 06:32 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr>
I am sorry George can't be awaken from his stupor, when Jim Baker told him the only solution in Iraq is to put Saddam back in Power and get the hell out of there. <hr /></blockquote>

Until the election last week, I felt like our goal in Iraq was to win. Now that the Dems have a majority, I hear talk that their goal is to get out...win or lose.
If we give up on Iraq now, our stature in the world will be reduced to little more than a joke. Other countries will believe that our word is worthless, that we can make promises to countries, then back out when the going gets tough.
Further more, as you and Gayle have pointed out, the lives of many of our military have been lost in this war. Having been in the military, I can tell you that nearly every one of them would understand giving their lives in support of the cause. My unit had a saying.."You gotta go out, but you don't have to come back." We all understood what it meant. If we back out now, then all the lives lost will have been for nothing. How do you explain that to their families?
Like it or not, we are in a war, and the only option is victory. Anything less is chicken $hit!
Steve

eg8r
11-15-2006, 07:13 AM
[ QUOTE ]
The scandal arose while Congress was investigating Mark Foley's sexually explicit computer <hr /></blockquote> Well, I sure did not hear about this scandal on the news. Why wouldn't this make national news during election time? I bet the voters in South Dakota sure wish they were told.

eg8r

pooltchr
11-15-2006, 07:48 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
The scandal arose while Congress was investigating Mark Foley's sexually explicit computer <hr /></blockquote> Well, I sure did not hear about this scandal on the news. Why wouldn't this make national news during election time? I bet the voters in South Dakota sure wish they were told.

eg8r <hr /></blockquote>

Pony Express is a little slow getting news out from SD??? /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif
(Just kidding! No offense meant to anyone from SD!!!)
Steve

Drop1
11-15-2006, 07:51 AM
I would rather not be stupid,than not be chicken sh^t. Hell the people we trained shoot our troops,the majority of people that live there want us out,the new government is telling us they will set the time tables,and then they turn around and cut a deal with the Chinese on the oil. Look these people don't have the slightest idea of what we want from them,and neither do we. The rest of the world already thinks we are stupid,and the religious factions are already in a civil war. What is it we are going to win,and after we win,how do we leave?

pooltchr
11-15-2006, 05:52 PM
McCain is talking about sending in MORE troops, getting the job done right, and then getting out. It pains me to say it, but it makes more sense than anything I have heard from anyone else!
Backing out now does nothing but dishonor those who have already given their lives in the war. Let's "Git 'er done"
Steve

DickLeonard
11-16-2006, 05:57 AM
Pooltchr we were lied into a War, so in my mind that is Hitler's ruse to go to War. It is a Phony War and I am sorry for anyone who lost their life or limbs fighting in it.

We are now the targets in the shooting gallery. Who is shooting at us, we don't know they all look alike, they all dress alike. Either kill them all or get the hell out of there.

Now the People have spoken lets Get our Troops out of the Hot Sun.####

Gayle in MD
11-16-2006, 07:56 AM
Ha ha ha...this is a riot. If you think for one moment, that Karl Rove, Hastard, Snow, and Frist, wouldn't have had this splashed all over the news, weeks before the election, if there were anything to it that was credible or indictable, then you're being slightly unrealistic, IMO.

Wow, Steve, seems you going into a posting frency since you team lost.

BTW, did you watch the live coverage on C-Span yesterday. of General Abazid's (sp?) testimony on Iraq? If not, you really missed it. You might want to try to catch it over the weekend. I'm sure they'll repeat it. And, BTW, I liked the way McCain handled himself, so there. Hillary, and quite a number of Senators, all took him to task, afterwhich, he admonished them all for showing despair over the circumstances in Iraq.

Gayle in Md.

wolfdancer
11-16-2006, 11:09 AM
Steve, I see where you are going with this..it puts the Foley/Haggard scandal into perspective, evens things out a bit...
What I see though is one politician,who is not a spiritual leader for thousands,nor one who runs a mind numbing youth camp....nor is he the chairman of notional org. whose goal is to protect our youths.
no, he's just some state Senator having sex with an 18 yr old,as compared to the 16 and under crowd that interested the other two.
At 18 you can vote, drink in some states, be charged with statutory rape in others, and could have been in the army for a year, or could have already had your body shipped home in a flag draped coffin.(they ain't sending 17 yr olds over just yet, but...)
Re: Haggard and all the other religious predators
As Ophelia said (Hamlet)
" Do not, as some ungracious pastors do, show me the steep and thorny way to heaven, whiles, like a puff'd and reckless libertine, himself the primrose path of dalliance treads. "
Hey, and don't forget that Clinton/Lewinski...thing...Republicans still believe that was the crime of the century...and they spent a $100 mil, proving it.
I'd have liked to have seen that money spent on some "aid to
the needy" instead...but that would be socialistic, and we don't want that