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Qtec
11-18-2006, 08:42 PM
Watch the docu and lets have some comments.
the video- click the first one (http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=Sex+Crimes+and+the+Vatican)



The Ferns Report
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The Ferns Inquiry (2005) was an official Irish government inquiry into the allegations of clerical sexual abuse in the Irish Catholic Diocese of Ferns. The Inquiry recorded its revulsion at the extent, severity and duration of the child sexual abuse perpetrated on children by priests acting under the aegis of the Diocese of Ferns. The investigation was established in the wake of the broadcast of a BBC Television documentary "Suing the Pope", which highlighted the case of Fr Sean Fortune, one of the most notorious clerical sexual offenders. The film followed Colm O'Gorman[1]as he investigated the story of how Fortune was allowed to abuse him and countless other teenage boys. O'Gorman, through One in Four, the organisation he founded to support women and men who have experienced sexual violence, successfully campaigned for the Ferns Inquiry.

"The Ferns Report was presented to the Irish government on 25 October 2005 and released the following day. It identified more than 100 allegations of child sexual abuse made between 1962 and 2002 against twenty-one priests operating under the aegis of the Diocese of Ferns. Eleven of these individuals were alive in 2002. The nature of the response by the Church authorities in the Diocese of Ferns to allegations of child sexual abuse by priests operating under the aegis of the diocese had varied over the forty years to 2002.

Between 1960 and 1980, the Report found that Bishop Herlihy treated child sexual abuse by priests of his diocese exclusively as a moral problem. He transferred priests against whom allegations had been made, to a different post or a different diocese for a period of time but then returned them to their former position. By 1980, Bishop Herlihy recognised that there was a psychologicial or medical dimension to the issue of child sexual abuse. Some priests in respect of whom allegations had been made were sent to a psychologist. <font color="blue"> They should have been in jail! </font color> However, decisions by Bishop Herlihy to appoint to curacies priests against whom allegations had been made and in respect of whom a respected clerical psychologist had expressed his concerns in unambiguous terms as to their suitability to interact with young people.




<font color="blue"> Numerous complaints of abuse on CHILDREN are made against a Priest and they send him somewhere else-ensuring that he can continue abusing children???????????? Isn't that immoral and criminal? </font color>

The tragedy is that kids were sacrificed for the reputation of a religious institution. Just because they wanted to avoid a scandal, young lives were scarred. Some never recover.






Q /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

nAz
11-19-2006, 12:36 AM
ya, sick freaking bastards and the mofos that enable them should be castrated. hmm maybe they should allow these priest to get married, it may cut down on all their "temptations". /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Gayle in MD
11-19-2006, 06:17 AM
It's disgusting, isn't it? I'm no fan of organized religion, this is just one, of many damn good reasons why I'm not! /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Gayle in Md.

cushioncrawler
11-19-2006, 06:01 PM
Its the same in Ozz -- bishops just transferred priests -- there was more effort put into defending the church than in trying to protect or heal the victims. madMac.

Gayle in MD
11-19-2006, 06:46 PM
That's awful.....

"Place no false God's before thee...."

Gayle....

Stretch
11-20-2006, 05:10 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> That's awful.....

"Place no false God's before thee...."

Gayle.... <hr /></blockquote>

Requiring that Priests and Nuns be celebate was the worst idea the Catholics ever had. It's not natural. St.

DickLeonard
11-20-2006, 07:03 AM
Gayle this the same problem that Bishop Hasert faced in the house.####

Gayle in MD
11-20-2006, 07:40 AM
Absolutely, but, how could they be close to God, and do something so filthy as have sex? LOL....

The History Channel is showing their series on the history of sexuality, and the religious philosophy, and how these tow things evolved, over time...it's very interesting, and learning about the religious intervention, into what was a natural, normal pleasure, seems to correlate directly with war, and human abuse. Those ancient leaders, who were instrumental in that effort, would all be in mental institutions today!

Gayle in Md.

Deeman3
11-20-2006, 12:00 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote nAz:</font><hr> ya, sick freaking bastards and the mofos that enable them should be castrated. hmm maybe they should allow these priest to get married, it may cut down on all their "temptations". /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> nAz,

I agree with you but it seems that the restriction on marriage will do little to cool their homosexual urges unless priests are mostly bi-sexual. Then there's the thing with the kids...I am not sure letting them get married by marriage (hetero) or by gay union will stop them from the base urges they seem to have.

I think your castration idea has the most merit. </font color>

DeeMan

Gayle in MD
11-20-2006, 01:15 PM
Now you're talkin' /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gayle in Md.
~non violent, but not where kid's safety is concerned.

Gayle in MD
11-22-2006, 06:13 AM
/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif...

Hey, where are you anyway?? I pm-d you last week...did you get it?

Love,
Gayle

TomBrooklyn
11-29-2006, 12:07 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Watch the docu and lets have some comments. <hr /></blockquote>
It's good to see you have other interests besides politics. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

cushioncrawler
11-29-2006, 02:30 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Stretch:</font><hr> ...Requiring that Priests and Nuns be celebate was the worst idea the Catholics ever had. It's not natural.... <hr /></blockquote>
There is no justification for having priests at all -- yes, nor celibacy.

But, every cloud has a silver lining -- now, the church is running out of priests.

For instance -- when the bulgarian backed turk shot the pope, i was angry. Later, i realized that it would have been better if he had been successfull (koz the church was/is/willbe bad news). Much later, i was glad that he survived, koz i realised that this stupid backward pope (Pope Peter Paul &amp; Mary the 4th) was going to hurt the church badly (despite the deep love of most catholics), and the longer he lived the better off the rest of us (greenies and athiests) would be (in the long run).

I have been wondering -- what is a cult???
Is the church (and islam) just a big cult(s)???
And, every bishopric is just another franchise selling superstition.

How come religions arent prosecuted (and sued) for fraud?? madMac.