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eg8r
02-27-2007, 12:11 PM
Well, it looks like Gore does not practice what he preaches... Here is the link to the article,Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659). In one year Gore is using 20x the national average.
[ QUOTE ]
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. <hr /></blockquote> This next quote shows that someone seems to have an axe to grind with Gore. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif [ QUOTE ]
"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. "But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules." <hr /></blockquote> Here is the spokesperson's rebuttle. [ QUOTE ]
The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local Green Power Switch program electricity generated through renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste and pollution. <hr /></blockquote> Sounds like the spokesperson is trying to explain away the issue, but the explanation does little for the guy with an axe to grind. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif [ QUOTE ]
These efforts did little to impress Johnson. "I appreciate the solar panels," he said, "but he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's switching out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he advocates."
<hr /></blockquote> Gore lives by the saying, "Do as I say not as I do."

Now I know that you guys will jump to point out the obvious, this guy is from a Conservative group and he is out attacking Gore, but the fact of the matter is that the guy used public utlity records. Take the bias how you want, but the facts are Gore uses tons of energy and that is not what he advocates.

eg8r

wolfdancer
02-27-2007, 01:35 PM
yer just jealous, /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif 'cause our guy won an Ocscar /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif
and your guy weren't even nominated /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Gayle in MD
02-27-2007, 01:38 PM
He's a national treasure. He's been warning about this issue for thirty years. Talk about being ahead of your time on things!

Gayle in Md.

Sid_Vicious
02-27-2007, 02:32 PM
His guy should get something for being a direct decendant of Cheta thought shouldn't he /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif...sid

FatsRedux
02-27-2007, 04:06 PM
Since bovine farts are a major problem, maybe Gore can invent a huge tank that cows would wear on their backs. It would have a hose and a bovine rectal plug with a sensor that would immediately detect and suction all bovine flatulence. The biggest design obstacle is that such a system would wind up full of sh*t, just like Mr. Gore.
/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Fats

moblsv
02-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Grow up!!

eg8r
02-27-2007, 07:19 PM
That was a mighty adult reply from you. Thanks for leading by example. I forgot you are Gore's cheerleader.

eg8r

eg8r
02-27-2007, 07:20 PM
Jealous, you are darn right. My guy has not even written a book. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Also, in responding to this I just remembered something. You guys have W on the books for fabricating a war that has cost about 3k lives. Your guy is fabricating a war on heat that will cost the entire earth. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

eg8r

Chopstick
02-27-2007, 07:56 PM
I think that fellow left out something. I am from Tennessee. The power there is hydro-electric. Zero carbon footprint. Remember the TVA? Am I missing something?

Qtec
02-27-2007, 09:19 PM
Pathetic! Geez, the guy gets an Oscar and they just can't take it. the Tennessee what? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif.......... get real Ed.

Q /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 02:09 AM
only people I heard of with that kind of energy usage were growing Marijuana down in the basement.......
I'm not arguing the bill....just amazed by it....sounds like the bill for at least 25 houses.
California has now passed a ban on incandescent light bulbs to conserve on energy....they might frown on this excess usage??
Maybe Al's like them preachers, that always lecture us on sins of the flesh....until they get arrested....for a sex crime...

cushioncrawler
02-28-2007, 03:37 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote FatsRedux:</font><hr> Since bovine farts are a major problem, maybe Gore can invent a huge tank that cows would wear on their backs. It would have a hose and a bovine rectal plug with a sensor that would immediately detect and suction all bovine flatulence. The biggest design obstacle is that such a system would wind up full of sh*t, just like Mr. Gore. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gifFats <hr /></blockquote>A free market think tank is full of [censored]. madmac.

eg8r
02-28-2007, 08:19 AM
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Maybe Al's like them preachers, that always lecture us on sins of the flesh....until they get arrested....for a sex crime... <hr /></blockquote> Same thing. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think my wife would break down and cry at the mailbox if the mail screwed up and sent us Gore's power bill. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif I am sure every huge home out there costs this much to keep cool but it is just unimaginable to me.

eg8r

eg8r
02-28-2007, 08:25 AM
More strawman BS from Q. Getting an Oscar, making lots of money, other people have mansions and they pay the same amount, blah blah blah. Your strawman has nothing to do with the subject of the post.

Why is it so hard for you to understand very simple subjects. Like Wolf said, this is no different than the evangelist that gets busted with a hooker. Practice what you preach is not a lifestyle of choice for these guys.

eg8r

hondo
02-28-2007, 08:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote moblsv:</font><hr> Grow up!! <hr /></blockquote>

Personally, I think it's great that the bushies still
have something to fight back with. Gore's a hypocrite.
Things have been far too easy for the left on here lately.
Please don't begrudge poor ole eg a little ammo.
Are we not sports?

DickLeonard
02-28-2007, 08:56 AM
Wolfdacer I thought he got the Boob Award from The David Letterman Show. He had a Two Hour Special on His Speaking Booboos.####

DickLeonard
02-28-2007, 09:16 AM
Eg8r Puttting Al Gore's energy bill in perspective it was 1/20 of George Bush's AirForce One bill for hiding out in the air on 911.####

Gayle in MD
02-28-2007, 09:22 AM
Pretty interesting idea, maybe we could direct all the resulting "wind" to power some windmills? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 10:10 AM
2 hours of Gw's gaffs?....how about a 2 hr special on his "convenient untruths"?

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 10:16 AM
Gayle, if you could "trap" the enourmous amount of methane gas these animals produce, you wouldn't need the windmills to produce energy.
Just a few cows give off more hot air then at a Bush press conference....

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 10:19 AM
Gayle, if you could "trap" the enourmous amount of methane gas these animals produce, you wouldn't need the windmills to produce energy.
Just a few cows give off more hot air then at a Bush press conference.... in the human dynamics of expelling intestinal gas.....men fart, woman pass gas, ladies though, break wind....

eg8r
02-28-2007, 11:18 AM
How is this in perspective to the subject of the post? Is wolf the only person on the left that has the ability to see what is really happening? Or are you just intent on arguing a strawman?

I think I can safely say, you have not heard W trumpeting Global Warming anywhere near what Gore has done, so mentioning W's energy use is a clear indication you don't understand the subject matter.

eg8r

9 Ball Girl
02-28-2007, 11:27 AM
I think everyone just needs to Shut Up and Sing. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd be like eg8r's wife and die if I saw my bill in that amount! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 12:26 PM
Now if you'll just show me the secret handshake...I can go to the meetings /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

DickLeonard
02-28-2007, 12:30 PM
9 Ball Girl you have never heard me sing Yet. You would win a Noble Peace Prize for being Eg8r wife.####

eg8r
02-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Oh no, you need a few more hazing events before you get the handshake. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

eg8r

eg8r
02-28-2007, 01:18 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I'd be like eg8r's wife and die if I saw my bill in that amount! /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif <hr /></blockquote> Yeah, if she showed that to me, I would hang my head, grab the coat and head back to work. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r

Gayle in MD
02-28-2007, 01:37 PM
La la la, La de dah, Da dum, De dah /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Need a kiss icon on here...damn it!

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
02-28-2007, 01:43 PM
And, I've never had that dance with you, either...
/ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif
We just singin' and a dancin' over here on the NPR side, just a singin' and dancin'... /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Love,
Gayle...so glad we don't get into those nasty, disruptive flame posts about pool, over here, like they do over on the PR side. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

cushioncrawler
02-28-2007, 01:58 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> More strawman BS from Q. Getting an Oscar, making lots of money, other people have mansions and they pay the same amount, blah blah blah. Your strawman has nothing to do with the subject of the post.

Why is it so hard for you to understand very simple subjects. Like Wolf said, this is no different than the evangelist that gets busted with a hooker. Practice what you preach is not a lifestyle of choice for these guys. eg8r <hr /></blockquote>eg8r -- A short lesson in logic. If an evangalist gets busted with a hooker, it duznt mean that God duznt exist. And, it duznt mean that the evangalist duznt beleev in God. madMac.

Gayle in MD
02-28-2007, 02:10 PM
And...if a busted evangelist, busts a hooker with a big bust, it doesn't mean that God doesn't bust big busted hookers and busted evangelists for gellin' on the bus. Glory Hal lay loo ya! or.. Glory Hal Loo lay ya! Hey, who's Hal Loo? /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Gayle in Md. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

9 Ball Girl
02-28-2007, 02:57 PM
It was a subliminal message. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<font color="blue">Shut Up and Sing</font color> (http://www.dixiechicks.com/06_dcmovie.asp) /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wolfdancer
02-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Ed, seems that Al has responded to your charges....
"Utility records show the Gore family paid an average monthly electric bill of about $1,200 last year for its 10,000-square-foot home.

The Gores used about 191,000 kilowatt hours in 2006, according to bills reviewed by The Associated Press. The typical Nashville household uses about 15,600 kilowatt-hours per year.

The group said that Gore used nearly 221,000 kilowatt hours last year and that his average monthly electric bill was $1,359. Johnson said his group got its figures from Nashville Electric Service.

But company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never got a request from the policy center and never gave it any information."

We're down a bit from the $30k mark...and Al says he invest in enough renewable energy to make up for the home's power consumption.
That's one big house there.......looks like it could easily hold around 50 lobbyists at a time.....if he can just pry some away from the republicans....
web page (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17382210/?GT1=9033)

Qtec
02-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Has Gore ever said that using energy was wrong?
There goes your idiotic comparison with the preacher and the hooker!
Q /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

pooltchr
03-01-2007, 04:15 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Has Gore ever said that using energy was wrong?
There goes your idiotic comparison with the preacher and the hooker!
Q /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif <hr /></blockquote>

Actually, he says not being smart about it's use is wrong. One family home using enough for 10 homes would constitute excessive in my book.
Steve

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 05:57 AM
The post is a moot point, anyway. You can't single out just one political person, with no comparisons to others, and call that a fair expose'. Unless we want to research his usage, and every other politicians usage, check their private jet usage, what kind of car they have, square footage of each home, and then in the case of Bush, we'd have to include his gasoline gallons for his chain saw tree sprees on the ranch /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif and Daddy's boat, and mansion up north, along with how many hours of bright lights in front of the mirror it takes to make moma Bush look like a woman, OMG, this could get confusing!

Most of them have big homes. Maybe Mit ought to fess up on his Square Footage on his mansions.

gayle in Md.

eg8r
03-01-2007, 06:28 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Has Gore ever said that using energy was wrong? <hr /></blockquote> Strawman. This has nothing to do with simply using energy. If this is so difficult for you to understand, then bow out. I just think you want to argue and I am no longer interested in it.

eg8r

eg8r
03-01-2007, 06:32 AM
[ QUOTE ]
The post is a moot point, anyway. You can't single out just one political person, with no comparisons to others, and call that a fair expose'. <hr /></blockquote> Perfect example that the left is not mature enough to accept a little responsibilty for their own actions. You just don't want to accept the fact that every time Gore tells you conservation is important he is lying to you. You are acting exactly the same way that you chastise all the W supporters.

Also, who on earth called this a "fair expose". We are not interested in being fair. Gore is the one opening his mouth, so his actions are being scrutinized. Why should we go look at another politician and scrutinize their energy consumption when they are not the ones out there making movies and preaching energy consumption.

eg8r

eg8r
03-01-2007, 06:46 AM
[ QUOTE ]
eg8r -- A short lesson in logic. <hr /></blockquote> You are giving me a lesson in logic on something that has nothing to do with the subject. COME ON PEOPLE THIS IS VERY BASIC STUFF. The man tells everyone to conserve energy while at the same time being and excessive energy whore himself. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. Anyone living in the limelight who is willing to be the loudest in the crowd should accept the fact that their actions will be observed.

Next time you offer lessons, at least pay attention to what we are talking about.

I am surprised the left is not making a big deal and asking Gore to share this wealth with the vast amount of poor people in his hometown state. The poor could surely use the money Gore spends on excessive power much better than how Gore is choosing to use it.

eg8r

DickLeonard
03-01-2007, 07:03 AM
MadMac you'd be wasting logic on eg8r.####

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 07:11 AM
LMAO, you said a mouthfull. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 08:48 AM
[ QUOTE ]
<hr /></blockquote> One family home using enough for 10 homes would constitute excessive in my book.
Steve
[ QUOTE ]
<hr /></blockquote>

A good example why the top 1% of billionaires in this country should pay a greater percent of taxes then they presently pay. How many rambling square fee of heated space do you think require heat and air conditioning in the huge Bush Dynasty? How bout Halliburton's top CEO's? Better yet, how many huge families resulting from religious doctrine for popping out babies every nine months, banning birth control, removing sex education, are using up energy like there's no tomorrow?

Instead, the corporate fascist pigs, control everything in this country, including Wars for Profit, without conscience, or patriotism, to line their own pockets. There's no shortage of Corporate Fascists Pigs around here.

Atleast Gore is targeting something worthwhile for the future of humanity, trying to do something good for the world, instead of just stockpiling money from secret deals, written in American blood, with the oil cartel, like Cheney and Bush are doing. Not that I think you guys would have any interest in counting up any Bush/Cheney/Romney/Rumsfeld/ mansion square feet. Hey, I'd like to know what the Bush family houses square foot total is, wouldn't you?

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
03-01-2007, 10:24 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Instead, the corporate fascist pigs, control everything in this country, including Wars for Profit, without conscience, or patriotism, to line their own pockets. <hr /></blockquote> Hooray for the Corporate Facist pigs, if not for them we would have Socialist Facist pigs working us like dogs so we could line the pockets of everyone else.

[ QUOTE ]
Atleast Gore is targeting something worthwhile for the future of humanity, trying to do something good for the world, <hr /></blockquote> This is the whole point, if he really believes his "message" why is he not living it? I am in no way saying there are not other abusers of energy or any other excesses in life, Gore is being singled out because of his "message".

eg8r

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 11:53 AM
No worthy point in this thread, IMO, since we all have to heat our homes. Just more right-wing BS, guess they only have two choices in communication, swift boat style, or Titanic Style. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Cheney's got a small mansion in St. Michaels Maryland, and a huge boat. How many houses does he own? /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Guess our choice is do we like rich people with big houses, who try to hide the facts on global warming, intimidate scientists, censor scientific studies, all on behalf of their rich oil friends, and pull off secret deals with the Oil Cartel, or do we prefer a man like Gore, who owns a big house, is using more energy than the average person, but less than the average billionaire, but at the same time, trying to educate the world on global warming, and conservation, as his personal mission. I know what my choice is. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Taking pot shots at a man who is trying to be part of the solution, would be an expected tactic from a small minded person, too stuck in his $hit, to allow himself to see the big picture, and rushing to spread around the daily fantasy BS from the state of denial, right-wing nay sayers, on the whole issues of global warming. /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Just one more pointless, immature attempt to irritate, IMO.

Gayle in Md. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wolfdancer
03-01-2007, 12:02 PM
I like the swift boat/titanic remark....!!!
Maybe the huge energy bill is because he is canning tuna fish down in the basement, using Samoan guest workers, and paying them below scale???

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 12:13 PM
BWA HA HA HA, You crack me up, good one! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif I just hope he's stashing some of his profits away in his freezer!

Hey, I'm one of the worst offenders to the atmosphere. Big house, boat owner, driving a Caddy, and three full sized refridgerators in my house. Before I bought this house, I had a huge heated pool at my other home. Used to like watching the steam roll off the water in late October, /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif after it was too cold for swimming, LMAO!

While we are all going to have to change our former relationship with energy consumption, attacking the guy who's trying to educate the country, and the world about our circumstances seems pretty petty, to me. What you call penny wise, and pound foolish, especially since money is vanishing by the billions in Bush's war of choice, based on lies, and rigged intelligence.

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
03-01-2007, 01:29 PM
[ QUOTE ]
or do we prefer a man like Gore, who owns a big house, is using more energy than the average person, but less than the average billionaire, but at the same time, trying to educate the world on global warming, and conservation, as his personal mission. I know what my choice is. <hr /></blockquote> In your quote alone you show the hypocrisy. You are mis-identifying this choice in an effort to make it look rosier than it actually is. Why don't you keep the hatred "fair" between both options. Here is how it should read.... <font color="blue"> Guess our choice is do we like rich people with big houses, who try to hide the facts on global warming, intimidate scientists, censor scientific studies, all on behalf of their rich oil friends, and pull off secret deals with the Oil Cartel, or do we prefer a man like Gore, who owns a big house, is using more energy than the average person, but less than the average billionaire, but at the same time, trying to <font color="red"> con the rest of the world into believing global warming is happening strictly because of the existence of humans and their excesses, all the while excessively acting out in the manner he condones </font color> I know what my choice is. </font color>

We all know your choice. You prefer any blood sucking politician that will fall to you whims and give you whatever you want especially if it is at the expense of someone who is better off than you.

[ QUOTE ]
Taking pot shots at a man who is trying to be part of the solution, <hr /></blockquote> Anyone who thinks Al Gore in all his excesses is trying to be part of the solution is just fooling them selves and trying to dumb down those around them. Making a statement like this in a thread that shows Al Gore does not care about about global warming and conservation is just crazy.

[ QUOTE ]
would be an expected tactic from a small minded person, <hr /></blockquote> This is coming from the person who resorts to gutter trash talk when her blood pressure gets too high.

[ QUOTE ]
Just one more pointless, immature attempt to irritate, IMO. <hr /></blockquote> I can understand it being irritating for you. You have been lying to us for 6 years about how perfect the left is and how much better they are. Looks like your "heros" are no different than anyone else. As a matter of fact, this is proof that Al Gore is a corporate facist pig. He is lining his pockets with money from people watching his movie and he is laughing all the way to the Power company to pay his bill.

eg8r

eg8r
03-01-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't know if anyone has looked into it, but it would be interesting to see who manicures his lawn, washes his clothes and cooks his food. Rest assured, if they are illegal aliens Gayle will probably change her stance on that also.

eg8r

eg8r
03-01-2007, 01:34 PM
[ QUOTE ]
While we are all going to have to change our former relationship with energy consumption, attacking the guy who's trying to educate the country, and the world about our circumstances seems pretty petty, to me. <hr /></blockquote> I am sure sounds petty to you, you are unwilling to admit anyone from the left is ever at fault.

eg8r

cushioncrawler
03-01-2007, 01:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> &lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
eg8r -- A short lesson in logic. <hr /></blockquote> You are giving me a lesson in logic on something that has nothing to do with the subject. COME ON PEOPLE THIS IS VERY BASIC STUFF. The man tells everyone to conserve energy while at the same time being and excessive energy whore himself. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. Anyone living in the limelight who is willing to be the loudest in the crowd should accept the fact that their actions will be observed.

Next time you offer lessons, at least pay attention to what we are talking about.

I am surprised the left is not making a big deal and asking Gore to share this wealth with the vast amount of poor people in his hometown state. The poor could surely use the money Gore spends on excessive power much better than how Gore is choosing to use it. eg8r<hr /></blockquote>For sure, u shood praktis what u preach. Me, i've got 3 kidz, but i preach that u shoodnt have more than 2, ie zero pop growth. Then, sometimes a "sinner" can have more credibility, eg i would listen better to what a convicted murderer had to say about capital punishment than to what my mates might say. Anyhow, Gore would "go over" better if he looked and acted a bit more like Ghandi, ie skinny and tanned, with a home-made loin-cloth, and had a "green" house. madMac.

Gayle in MD
03-01-2007, 02:38 PM
Gotcha! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif thanks... /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DickLeonard
03-01-2007, 02:53 PM
MadMac they used phony info to take us to war now your going to believe Gore's energy bill is correct. That is totally illogical.####

cushioncrawler
03-01-2007, 03:12 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote DickLeonard:</font><hr> MadMac they used phony info to take us to war now your going to believe Gore's energy bill is correct. That is totally illogical.#### <hr /></blockquote>True. But mightbe Gore iz growing lots of weed in hiz attic. Hmmmmm -- 191 pot plants of Pot would cover hiz energy bill nicely -- and everyones a winner. Which reminds me, the police helicopter down here duz a lot of night-time flying, obviously its eezyr to infra-red the roofs on a cool night -- thats why i am putting in a big basement. madMac.

Gayle in MD
03-02-2007, 10:35 AM
The goal, zero population growth, for me. We've known all about these overpopulation issues since the sixties, at least. Jim and I were firm believers in zero population growth, hence, we had only one child. My Italian side of the family were very critical about that, and so was his side. Funny how you can end up taking so much flack, for trying to do what you believe is the right thing to do.

In the case of Al Gore, I think he is very genuine regarding his concerns about global warming. Regardless of the usual slanderous smut that comes out of the republican party everytime a Democrat is showcased for good deeds and accomplishments, there can be no doubt, that their policies rely of burrying the factual information, even if it means the destruction of our planet, in the interest of bigger salaries for the Corporate Fascist Pigs of America.

The idea that the right would focus on the energy use of Gore, of all people, is just more proof to me of their overall policy of retaliation against anyone, and anything that could benefit this country in any way which does not make the rich richer. It cannot be denied that our Vice President has pulled off some pretty shady deals with the Oil cartel, anymore than it can be denied that everytime there is a Bush in office, gas and oil prices go through the roof. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

cushioncrawler
03-02-2007, 03:51 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Gayle in MD:</font><hr> The goal, zero population growth, for me. We've known all about these overpopulation issues since the sixties, at least. Jim and I were firm believers in zero population growth, hence, we had only one child. My Italian side of the family were very critical about that, and so was his side. Funny how you can end up taking so much flack, for trying to do what you believe is the right thing to do.

In the case of Al Gore, I think he is very genuine regarding his concerns about global warming. Regardless of the usual slanderous smut that comes out of the republican party everytime a Democrat is showcased for good deeds and accomplishments, there can be no doubt, that their policies rely of burrying the factual information, even if it means the destruction of our planet, in the interest of bigger salaries for the Corporate Fascist Pigs of America.

The idea that the right would focus on the energy use of Gore, of all people, is just more proof to me of their overall policy of retaliation against anyone, and anything that could benefit this country in any way which does not make the rich richer. It cannot be denied that our Vice President has pulled off some pretty shady deals with the Oil cartel, anymore than it can be denied that everytime there is a Bush in office, gas and oil prices go through the roof. /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif <hr /></blockquote>Gayle -- The rich and powerfull are mostly selfish and/or ignorant. I dont know which is worse. The whole system is stuffed -- a western style democracy karnt be good -- the ignorant majority combines with the selfish rich.

A good start might be to ban all political contributions from non-private companyz -- the state should fund all (and limit all) campaigns (for actual office) and elections. madMac.

Gayle in MD
03-02-2007, 03:54 PM
Amen Friend!

pooltchr
03-02-2007, 05:00 PM
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While we are all going to have to change our former relationship with energy consumption, attacking the guy who's trying to educate the country, and the world about our circumstances seems pretty petty, to me. <hr /></blockquote> I am sure sounds petty to you, you are unwilling to admit anyone from the left is ever at fault.

eg8r <hr /></blockquote>

Ed, They don't seem to understand that in order for him to have any credibility, he can't just talk the talk, he has to walk the talk.
I guess it wasn't enough for him to invent the internet...he had to invent global warming too! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Would you feel good about buying a Ford from a guy who drives a Chevy?
They aren't going to get it. You are trying to get through to a brick wall. I might be more prone to believe him if he was willing to show a little personal sacrafice in his crusade. But all I see is the "Do as I say, not as I do" attitude.

Steve

Bobbyrx
03-02-2007, 05:39 PM
Now ya'll take it easy on poor Al. The Tennessean reported that our "national treasure" buys "carbon offsets" to compensate for his home's use of energy from carbon-based fuels. A carbon offset "is a service that tries to reduce the net carbon emissions of individuals or organizations indirectly, through proxies who reduce their emissions and/or increase their absorption of greenhouse gases." . . .So he's making up for all that nasty energy use by buying carbon offsets so he means well doesn't he?

What's interesting is thatGore buys his carbon offsets through Generation Investment Management:

Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe . . .

Gore is chairman of the firm and, presumably, draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he "buys" his "carbon offsets" from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself.
Meanwhile, Gore runs around the country and the world trumpeting "climate crisis" and blaming man's use of carbon-based energy--burning thousands of gallons of jet fuel as he goes. His efforts have served to put climate change at the top of the national and even global agenda, driving up the value of the stocks and companies viewed as "green" or environmentally friendly. Companies like those his investment management firm invest his own money in.
OH NO!!!!!!!!!! A green Haliburton!!!!!

eg8r
03-03-2007, 06:26 PM
Very interesting, I did not know all that. It is not surprising though. The left is riddled with Corporate Facist Pigs but those are Gayle's favorite so they get a free ride.

eg8r

eg8r
03-03-2007, 06:29 PM
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Jim and I were firm believers in zero population growth, hence, we had only one child. <hr /></blockquote> LOL, looks like someone missed the mark in math. I just don't think we could have stopped with one. Now that my son is 6 months old it seems that he is growing up too fast, he does not look or act like the little baby he was just a few short months ago. Haleigh is now 2.5 years old and she is a little mother hen around her brother. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

eg8r