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04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Ok, seems like another Govt official has developed a case of amnesia! Yep, Gonzales couldn't 'recall', more than a 100 times today!
It sort of went like this.

Spector: State your name for the record.
Gonzales: I can't recall.
S: You are the Attorney General?
G: I can't answer that on the grounds of Nat Sec.
S: You do know why you are here?

Go to www.crooksandliars.com (http://www.crooksandliars.com) or check this out. His testimony is hilarius.

Q web page (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/19/patrick-leahys-opening-statements/) web page (http://feingold.senate.gov/%7Efeingold/statements/07/04/20070419.htm)

04-19-2007, 11:10 PM
Q, i haven't checked out your link, but just finished watching a replay on C-Span of the hearings.
There was one answer in there that got me....he had remembered, talking to......and has been reminded...reminded that he had also met with the President!!!
Now, I'm thinking...do we really want an Atty Gen..that can't remember, something important, like... if he met with the President?
Add in that the White house doesn't want these folks to testify under oath, and one aide is already invoking the 5th........
And toss in the missing emails....
There's a long list of political scandals from each party....we're used to that...maybe even expect it....but now the Justice Dep't????????

04-20-2007, 12:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote wolfdancer:</font><hr>
Add in that the White house doesn't want these folks to testify under oath, and one aide is already invoking the 5th........
And toss in the missing emails....
There's a long list of political scandals from each party....we're used to that...maybe even expect it....but now the Justice Dep't????????

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You know you lefties really kill me, you make me sick there is no proof of any wrong doing here. there is nothing wrong with taking the 5th especially when your being interrogated by some nutty sen.
missing emails? what the hell he probably deleted it thinking it was porno Spam. I swear you guys make a mountain out of a mole hill when it comes to our American leadership.
stop hating!

Gayle in MD
04-20-2007, 05:29 AM
I watched it twice, all the way through, and was spellbound! Unbelievable. It was so obvious that he's covering up for a White House, which has corrupted our entire Justice Department.

Oberman had some very interesting statistics last night about how many e-mails, videos, and other forms of documentation have been missing in all kinds of other investigations during this administration. It's probably on his web sight, MSNBC, Keith Oberman.

When Clinton was in the White House, there were four people on his staff who were in regular contact with the Department of Justice, in this White House there are four hundred and forty three!

I can just hear Rove now, "Well, it's going to be a tough election, but I've got a number of my usual dirty trick plans to push us through. First, we'll have to get rid of these excellent and effective AG's, who indicting Republicans for breaking the law, and put in some Bushies who will go after the Democrats with some indictments. We have to get this done before the election, get some of our current Bushies, to concoct some illegal activities, and have a few Senators make some calls, but above all, we'll have to keep Dusty off that stand, can't have him under oath, third to the top in the C.I.A., jeeze, the whole BS we made up about Saddam could come out! Gotta get rid of that Lam woman, pronto! And, are we sure we purged all the e-mails. I'm not sure we got them all when Scooter was on trial! Hey, if the Dems win anyway, we'll still have a good line up of fall guys between us and any wrong doing, just make damn sure we purge those computers. Hey, maybe we should do what that Republican Governor did when he left office last year, what's his name,,.... just smash them up with a sledge hammer!" /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Gayle in MD
04-20-2007, 05:37 AM
No question, he is gone! The big worry is, who the hell will the shrub replace him with...
When Jeff Sessions and Lindsey Graham stop putting words in the mouth of the witness to help him out, and get critical, like they did yesterday, you can bet, he's gone.

This is a pure case of White House obstruction Of Justice. I don't see how Bush can wiggle completely out of this one.
And Dana Perino, what a total joke she is. Gonzales goes in there and puts the noose around his own throat, and she's out there saying the President is pleased? I guess he's pleased that he's got a fall guy between him and the rest of the law breaking activities. Losing Gonzales will be a drop in the bucket, as long as the White House can keep Rove off the stand, and keep those e-mails deep sixed. I'm wondering if anything will be done about the fact that they actually are breaking the law by failing to preserve presidential papers, including e-mails.

Bunch of lying crooks!

04-20-2007, 05:50 AM
Yep, Gonzales couldn't 'recall', <hr /></blockquote> This entire administration had great mentors. One of those mentors will be running for President next year I wonder how much more her brain could forget.


Gayle in MD
04-20-2007, 08:47 AM

Carol Lam...in the unprecedented firings, was designated a poor performing AG. She was in the top Ten in the country, on her sucesses in indictments, and convictions. She brought down the Hell's Angels Gang, in San Diego, indictments and convictions against the Arianno drug cartel, gained a national reputation for her work on public corruption cases, which are the FBI's 2nd highest priority after terrorism, was praised by the border patrol and her illegal immigration saces, the highest ever, and prosecutions for illegal smugglers rated as rising sharply, 482, in 2005, contributed in all to the lowest crime rate in 25 years, but was fired supposedly for poor performance, right after she sought indictments against other Republicans related to the Cunningham conviction.

Crayon and menu anyone?

The Attorney General admits that he never looked at the evaluation scores for any of those who were fired, wasn't involved in creating the list of poor performance people, didn't talk with the deputies in her field, but he says he made the decision, based on the fact that she had recieved complaints from Congressmen, but he never mentioned that their calls to her were illegal, and they were Republicans!

I think the resignations by the man who supposedly did the investigations of these AG's, Sampson, and the resignation of Carolyn...can't recall her last name, the White House/DOJ liason, also resigned, after announcing she would take the fifth, and Rove being involved, making phone calls before the election, 144 "I don't recall" while he is trying to gain support from the American people to put our minds at ease, and all the missing Rove, (and others) e-mails?????

Crayon anyone? /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Why is it so hard for the nutty 28% to connect the dots?

Gayle in Md.

04-20-2007, 11:47 AM
nAz, you're right...it's just my left wing paranoia kicking in...we've been afraid they'll cut off our welfare checks, etc.....I've seen the lite now..I'm going to take down my photograph of Che Guevara and replace it with one of Karl rove
I had the complete wrong take on Mr Gonzales...thought he was "fudging" the truth, and being evasive ....but last nite it was reported the President was pleased with his testimony, and thought he had answered all their questions
AND, he had, if you count "I have no recollections of that, Senator"
It seems that as Attorney General, he was not directly involved in the firings....and even though he wrote a few directives, sent a couple of emails, and sat in on a few meetings...he was just minimally involved in the process.
That should have been satisfactory, and ended this witch hunt...
I think the bigger concerns should be this sudden, mass memory loss among key Republicans. (some new malady?)..and the Democrat's underhanded attempts to take advantage of this....by luring them into sworn testimony....how unfair is that???

04-20-2007, 11:54 AM
John Dean had a great line last nite...he said that during the Nixon scandal..."somebody" (I'm having my own memory loss, here)testified under oath (they did have to give sworn statements in them pre-GWB days), re: the missing data,,,that it may have been some unknown "force" that was responsible. Perhaps this evil force has returned...

04-20-2007, 11:57 AM
Wolfdancer I definetley would try to forget if I had ever met that President.####

04-20-2007, 12:00 PM
LOL !!!

04-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Gayle sure you haven't bugged the ShitHouse. I am going to send the next Democratic President a Tanker full of Fabreze.####

Gayle in MD
04-20-2007, 01:42 PM
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Gayle in MD
04-20-2007, 07:44 PM
They were all subpeonaed! And convicted...Mitchell, Erlichman, Halderman, Colson, and the whole top level of the Republican National Committee, Creep...(committee for the Re-election of the President) not to mention they kidnapped and drugged Martha Mitchell, of "It Was Mr. President, That's Who" fame.

Ah, but many of them became born again Christians, so it doesn't count, LMAO...guys like Chuck Colson "When you've got em' by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow" fame.

It's really funny when the Bushies contend nothing counts without a conviction, LMAO, especially when the President and Karl Rove are running the Department of Justice from the white House!

Gonzales is a thug, just like his boss.

Gayle in Md.