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Sid_Vicious
08-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Just got a new Dell lappy. Is it suggested to let Microsoft install all of the updates as recommended? That seemed to kill my last laptop, wht do you think???sid

Forgot to mention, XP Home

sack316
08-10-2007, 05:23 PM
Well, if you feel you are up to keeping up with the task, I choose to turn off the automatic updates and go to the update site myself and pick and choose what I feel is relevant (i.e. when the much needed service pack 2 was a big deal).

Having the updates being fully automatic isn't a bad thing, but it can sometimes bog you down if you happen to be needing to do something during the selected time. Plus some updates are really not critical things you need ( such as if you don't make much use out of the media player, downloading new codecs automatically isn't doing you much good).

If, by chance, you don't feel confident in checking the updates on your own there is an option to have XP notify you when an update is available, but not download or install them on it's own.

I guess the whole thing is more of a personal preference than anything else. But if you want more info and instruction on how to configure the updates you may find this page useful and informative for basic info. (http://www.theeldergeek.com/automatic_updates.htm)

Hope that was of some help... enjoy your new toy!

Sack

Chopstick
08-10-2007, 08:01 PM
All Microsoft products are inherently self-destructive. Enabling automatic updates places the health of your system entirely in the hands of the Microsoft Quality Control staff. At this point you have to ask "Do I trust them that well?" It took them ten years to produce an operating system that wouldn't lock up and crash when you went to print a file and the printer wasn't turned on.

How good do you think their Quality Control is? If your system is running fine now, leave it alone. Along this subject line I can speak about a policy that I practice as a professional. One off patches are never good for the overall health and reliability of any system. The reason is the level of testing it goes through. An individual patch release is just tested to fix a single problem and it is only tested to the point of fixing the problem itself. The testing for interactions with the operating system and all of the rest of the one off patches is minimal.

Think about the numbers involved. You are a developer about to release a patch to fix a bug and you must test it. In order to deliver a quality product you must test it under the exact same configuration as the target system. Since there are thousands of the individual patches floating around out there he doesn't know what combination of them you have or what anyone else has. The effect of applying these to your system is always going to be unpredictable.

Every so often a company will release an patch bundle. In the windows world it was called Service Pack2. Service packs are tested for interactions with other patches and the operating system. In the HPUX world there are stressed tested to the same level as a full operating system release. The quality level for patch bundles is in a completely different league. Also never apply anything when it is first released. Many times these patches are recalled. Getting a patch out of a system is sometimes impossible.

So, in summary, automatic updates, no. When a patch bundle comes along, don't install it right away. Give it a few months and see if it has problems or gets recalled. I would stay at least six months behind. Follow these simple rules and any system, not just windows, will be a lot more stable.

nAz
08-11-2007, 02:58 AM
Once again..."you guys need to try Linux. Ubuntu is a great distro, easy to use and more stable than anything microsoft has. tons of free software that rivals and in lots of cases surpasses MS. oh BTW its totally free!"

http://www.ubuntu.com/
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Or like chop said

"So, in summary, automatic updates, no. When a patch bundle comes along, don't install it right away. Give it a few months and see if it has problems or gets recalled. I would stay at least six months behind. Follow these simple rules and any system, not just windows, will be a lot more stable."

eg8r
08-11-2007, 01:27 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Just got a new Dell lappy. <hr /></blockquote> You just abbreviated a 6 letter word with a 5 letter made-up word? /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif If you don't want the auto-update to happen you can choose to be notified prior to loading the patches and updates. At this point you can preview what is going to be loaded and choose if you want it to happen.

eg8r

9 Ball Girl
08-11-2007, 01:56 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr>If you don't want the auto-update to happen you can choose to be notified prior to loading the patches and updates. At this point you can preview what is going to be loaded and choose if you want it to happen.eg8r <hr /></blockquote>That is exactly what I do. It must be an IT thing. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r
08-11-2007, 06:53 PM
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That is exactly what I do. It must be an IT thing. <hr /></blockquote> It makes sense to me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r