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Troy
07-26-2002, 06:43 PM
OK Chris, try this one --- You need both ball in pocket "A" ---

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I probably have the OB path diagrammed a bit wrong, but you get the idea.

I ran out of arrows, but the CB roughly travels through "B", "C", "D" for shape on the last ball. Speed will avoid the double kiss.
Troy...~~~ Still needs weight from Chris... /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

Rod
07-26-2002, 07:28 PM
Troy, I like this shot, it's right down my alley. Well in the neighborhood anyway.

dddd
07-26-2002, 09:58 PM
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these shots come up along the long rail alot,
into opposite corner

also contact can be made with a kick off the rail first and then rebounding into ball to provide same type of shot and direction to pocket
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Troy
07-26-2002, 10:30 PM
Your first two examples are actually quite common. The third less common.

Be careful not to hit it too full or you've sent it toward the opponent's pocket.

Thanks for the contribution.

Troy
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these shots come up along the long rail alot,
into opposite corner

also contact can be made with a kick off the rail first and then rebounding into ball to provide same type of shot and direction to pocket
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Tom_In_Cincy
07-27-2002, 09:05 AM
Both balls frozen to the side rail, Aim the cue ball to the short rail corner pocket tip. Medium speed, to avoid the kiss. One ball will float into your pocket...

This shot was taught to me by the late Gary Speath.

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Chris Cass
07-27-2002, 11:40 AM
Hi Troy,

Don't think I haven't been stuck taking that shot needing 2 balls myself. If they kiss, well I just grab the rack. hahahah

Thanks,

C.C.

Chris Cass
07-27-2002, 11:44 AM
Well 4d,

You'll never see me attempt to make those shots. Maybe I'd shoot the second one, but that's it.

Thanks,

C.C.

Chris Cass
07-27-2002, 11:48 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> Both balls frozen to the side rail, Aim the cue ball to the short rail corner pocket tip. Medium speed, to avoid the kiss. One ball will float into your pocket...This shot was taught to me by the late Gary Speath.START(
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Hi Tom,

I like that shot and I have to watch the tape I just borrowed with Gary playing. I didn't know he was deceased?

Thanks,

C.C.

Tom_In_Cincy
07-27-2002, 01:16 PM
Yes, he passed away in 2000, complications from leukeima, he had a nice write up in the Cincy papers, and his skills at the table will be missed.

A couple of stories about Gary.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gary+spaeth&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;selm=91ldm701hqn%40news2.newsguy.com&amp;rnum=3 (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gary+spaeth&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;selm=31E33CE6.4634%40iac.net&amp;rnum=7>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=gary+spaeth&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;selm=31E33CE6.4634%40iac.net&amp;rnum=7</a>

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Rod
07-27-2002, 05:59 PM
dddd, I like the last one rail first a lot. Would never hesitate to shoot that one. The one by the head string is ok but the one at the foot end is just plain suicide to me.

Rod
07-27-2002, 06:33 PM
I'll have to try that aim method Tom, but I doubt I'd ever shoot that shot. I don't like the idea of where the c/b ends up. What I do, although it is not agressive, but leaves my opponent tough is bank the one near the right corner in the kitchen and leave the c/b opposite end. Focus is on c/b speed. I'll take my chances from here.
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dddd
07-27-2002, 07:55 PM
i respect your knowledge, and agree with the idea of dangerous plays and the problems that occur from them
and one pocket is a game of small moves and small gains, the winner will probally be the one who shoots the easiest to accomplish shots,
but i love the offensive agressive mindset when i am not forced or required to be more mild mannered for whatever reason.
to my mind and those whom i play, sometimes times the best safety can be forcing them to move balls from my side at the expense of shooting towards their own pocket.

i do not see these shots often but will shoot it my direction when table lay allows if i hit it well the q will stay there and again if object ball rolls to the pocket or end it is not a bad leave
if one cannot angle the ball close enough to the pocket, carom off the stack gently, or if angle is too wide play it slow to stop near pocket.

i guess what im trying to say is i will shoot alot of shots but i will not shoot to make at the expense of q placement
but if q placement and making the shot give the right results game on i will go for the shot

thanks
bye

Troy
07-27-2002, 08:02 PM
I saw Chris MacDonald shoot this shot, make the 1-ball (Pocket "A"), and get shape for the out. (my diagram is probably off some, but you get the idea)

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Troy...~~~ Won't try it matched up 'cuz I'd sell out..... /ccboard/images/icons/frown.gif

Rod
07-27-2002, 08:42 PM
Troy, it is a little testy and it does not have to go. I think I might pass. I guess the question is do you feel lucky? Here is one that can up and I like it especially if you hide the c/b. It just depends on the situation. The reason I like it so much is I use to do a drill of banking that ball in the far corner from different points along that rail. When I got into one hole I just adapted. It's not as risky as it might seem. Of course there is a weak safety but my opponent may have a good reply.
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Troy
07-27-2002, 09:49 PM
Like I said, I saw Chris MacDonald shoot my example. It's not mine.

Yours looks like a stroke shot to me Rod. If you pull one like that on me, you'll need to give me 10-6..... /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

By the way, how will low-left bring the CB off the side rail behind the 7 ??? Just askin'...

Troy

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Rod:</font><hr> Troy, it is a little testy and it does not have to go. I think I might pass. I guess the question is do you feel lucky? Here is one that can up and I like it especially if you hide the c/b. It just depends on the situation. The reason I like it so much is I use to do a drill of banking that ball in the far corner from different points along that rail. When I got into one hole I just adapted. It's not as risky as it might seem. Of course there is a weak safety but my opponent may have a good reply.
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Rod
07-27-2002, 10:52 PM
Quote Troy,
Yours looks like a stroke shot to me Rod. If you pull one like that on me, you'll need to give me 10-6.....

By the way, how will low-left bring the CB off the side rail behind the 7 ??? Just askin'...

Troy


Troy when I give you 10 to 6 you'll be using a walker or better yet a wheel chair. LOL Low bends the c/b a little and left takes off the side rail. Set it up sometime with just the c/b and o/b. The c/b is in the range of 1 balls width from the side rail. The left doesn't make the o/b or shot any easier it just used to hide the c/b. Center or right makes the shot easier, but it might end up being a sell out. I thought every shot was a stroke shot of some sort. /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

Chris Cass
07-28-2002, 07:51 PM
Hi dddd,

I agree with you there. My one hole game is limited because I have very little experience in the game. I know banks, straight pool, 9ball, 8ball, 6ball, 3ball, rotation, pea pool, belente(some Spanish game)caroms, and some 3 cushion. I know where the balls are going and can make up shots too. It doesn't take but one shot and the guys I play will kill me. LOL I'm extremely agressive but like you, try to hold on to whitey. LOL

Regards,

C.C.