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Gayle in MD
10-02-2007, 11:38 AM
In spite of the failure of our resident righties to notice the financial stresses which many low and middle class Americans are facing, due to the faulty Republican economic policies of the Bush Administration, it seem Republicans have lost their pseudo fiscal conservative title to the Democrats.

Although they have consistantly refused to acknowledge the hidden damages to our economy, unaddressed by their party, evidence is acculmulating that many other Republicans, who voted for George Bush, the worst of the worst, and the last Republican majority, have seen the light.

Some are apparently knowedgable to understand the economic results which follow tax cuts, paid for with huge deficits, higher costs to the consumer, both in health and wealth, when policies lead to only the top 10 percent of a nation are accumulating wealth, and prices of goods for all, food, energy, health care, pharmaceiticals, rise above the ability of the majority of Americans to afford to buy.

Though there has long been documentation warning of the unsound practice of cutting taxes during war time, and redistributing wealth upwards, and failing to address the needs of those least able to keep up, creating a vast void between the wealthy, and the middle class, all such proven data was ignored by Republicans, AND their supporters, who would prefer poisoned food, and led laden toys, to spending tax payers money for responsible regulations requiring our vendors to meet standards for untainted foods and products.

Hence, Republicans are way behind Democrats in contributions, and may business owners have seen the light on Republican economics, unsound business practices, unchecked spending, and tax policies which favor only the wealthiest of the wealthy.

Bill Clinton, a President completely dedicated, according to Alan Greenspan, to economic growth, and fiscal responsibility, and known for his ability to focus on details, without losing sight of the big picture, will finally be appreciated for his many attributes as a leader, IMO, when the final reports on Bushonomics are finally recorded, that is if any of us are still here.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119127620102645595.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us

It seem, that finally, some leading Republicans are beginning to understand how using social issues, such as abortion, and gay rights, in order to highjack votes from the authoritarian religious right, do not necessarily bring about good results for the country, nor sucessful policies, from the White House, to the halls of the congress and the Senate.

I hope our country will survive these past seven years of jury rigged numbers, intelligence, and the overall failure of Some Americans to recall the lessons of the past, from the battlefield, to the treasury, and that never again will they allow themselves to be exploited by politicians whose promises are too good to be true, use divisive issues social issues to divide our country, and that we will all shun the political exploitation of social and religious issues, in place of solid, open, responsible economic government issues for the common good of America, and heed the great lessons learned over generations of trial and error, regarding war and the folly of launching occupations in foreign lands, where the enemy is difficult to identify, and not a true threat to our country.

We have committed a great deal more devastation against Iraqis, than they have ever done to us, and all because we did not insist on proof, when we should have, and that failure has sent us into the most devastating potential situation that we have ever faced. Worse yet, the same incompetent leaders who created this dire circumstance, this quagmire, this inhumane and illegal occupation, are now set to expand their former mistakes, into greater disasters.

Gayle in Md.

eg8r
10-02-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Democrats - The True Fiscal Conservatives! <hr /></blockquote> This is coming from the foolish party that is ready to give $5k to new borns. Ha.

eg8r

LWW
02-19-2012, 07:28 AM
[quote=eg8r] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Re: Democrats - The True Fiscal Conservatives! &lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; This is coming from the foolish party that is ready to give $5k to new borns. Ha.

eg8r </div></div>

How's that fiscal conservatism of demokrooks working out?

Qtec
02-19-2012, 07:45 AM
This was from 2007. Pretty pathetic for to drag this up when g is not here to defend herself but,


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In spite of the failure of our resident righties to notice the financial stresses which many low and middle class Americans are facing, due to the faulty Republican economic policies of the Bush Administration, it seem Republicans have lost their pseudo fiscal conservative title to the Democrats.

Although they have consistantly refused to acknowledge the hidden damages to our economy, unaddressed by their party, evidence is acculmulating that many other Republicans, who voted for George Bush, the worst of the worst, and the last Republican majority, have seen the light.

Some are apparently knowedgable to understand the economic results which follow tax cuts, paid for with huge deficits, higher costs to the consumer, both in health and wealth, when policies lead to only the top 10 percent of a nation are accumulating wealth, and prices of goods for all, food, energy, health care, pharmaceiticals, rise above the ability of the majority of Americans to afford to buy.
</div></div>

Where was she wrong....and be specific. <span style='font-size: 26pt'>No questions</span>, just <span style='font-size: 26pt'>answers</span> with proof or at least the semblance of some kind of evidence to back your crap up.

Q

LWW
02-19-2012, 07:53 AM
I didn't ask her to defend anything.

I'm asking if anyone knows how it all turned out?

The deficit way back then was a whopping $160B a year?

How low have the demokrooks pushed it?

Any idea?

LWW
02-19-2012, 05:33 PM
Bump for someone on the left to explain how raising the annual deficit from $160B in 2007 to 4 straight years of being over $1,000,000,000,000.00 is fiscally conservative?

Sev
02-20-2012, 03:59 PM
Hmmmmmm.
I think I hear crickets breeding.

LWW
02-20-2012, 04:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmmmmm.
I think I hear crickets breeding. </div></div>

They are just waiting for the regime to tell them what their "OPINION" is.

LWW
02-21-2012, 03:41 AM
Bump for the resident cabalists.

Qtec
02-21-2012, 04:52 AM
This is really pathetic.

Trying to avoid <span style='font-size: 23pt'>current </span>topics maybe?

Q

LWW
02-21-2012, 05:50 AM
This is a current topic ... I want to hear how this demokrook fiscal conservatism worked out?

Any clue?

Stretch
02-21-2012, 08:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is really pathetic.

Trying to avoid <span style='font-size: 23pt'>current </span>topics maybe?

Q </div></div>

His full time bloger buddies failed to feed him his misinformation of the day. And, it's a cry for help for his Queen. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif St.

LWW
02-21-2012, 08:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is really pathetic.

Trying to avoid <span style='font-size: 23pt'>current </span>topics maybe?

Q </div></div>

His full time bloger buddies failed to feed him his misinformation of the day. And, it's a cry for help for his Queen. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif St. </div></div>

Have <span style='font-size: 11pt'>ANY</span> of y'all <span style='font-size: 11pt'>EVER</span> had a <span style='font-size: 11pt'>SINGLE</span> original thought?

Stretch
02-21-2012, 03:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is really pathetic.

Trying to avoid <span style='font-size: 23pt'>current </span>topics maybe?

Q </div></div>

His full time bloger buddies failed to feed him his misinformation of the day. And, it's a cry for help for his Queen. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif St. </div></div>

Have <span style='font-size: 11pt'>ANY</span> of y'all <span style='font-size: 11pt'>EVER</span> had a <span style='font-size: 11pt'>SINGLE</span> original thought? </div></div>

That's funny comeing from someone who just reposted someone elses post. Miss her that much do you? Why don't you bring back some of Hondo's posts for originality, oh forgot, being "Mr, Original" you would rather wear him on your sleeve. Cool, to each their own.. St.

cushioncrawler
02-21-2012, 04:10 PM
ElDubb misses Gayle's main main main point. Gayle iz talking about the rich getting richer while the poor karnt afford essentials.
ElDubb pix on the gov debt remarks az if they were the main main main point, and runs with theze.
The main main point woz dekreecing taxes for the rich.
Which meens that the main main main point woz the poorness of the poor.
The debt woz Gayle's main point, not the main main point, and not the main main main point --- her main main main point woz the poorness of the poor.
mac.

Of course i dont entirely agree with Gayle's or anyone else's krappynomix -- just pointing out my read of Gayle's write.
mac.

LWW
02-22-2012, 03:27 AM
I've got her point entirely ... I'd just like to see someone explain how much better they are now.

Anyone?

Soflasnapper
02-27-2012, 01:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=eg8r] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Re: Democrats - The True Fiscal Conservatives! &lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; This is coming from the foolish party that is ready to give $5k to new borns. Ha.

eg8r </div></div>

How's that fiscal conservatism of demokrooks working out? </div></div>

Gayle said: In spite of the failure of our resident righties to notice the financial stresses which many low and middle class Americans are facing, due to the faulty Republican economic policies of the Bush Administration, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>it seem Republicans have lost their pseudo fiscal conservative title to the Democrats.</span>

A current Roper Poll, (http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_ad.htm) 2/16-20 seems to suggest it's true as of now. The pasted pieces are way down. Note earlier, Obama has low numbers on economic issues generally, and still, we see this:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "Who do you trust more to make the right decisions about the nation's economy: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
40 44 1 9 6


"Who do you trust more to make the right decisions about the federal budget deficit: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
42 43 1 9 5


"Who do you trust more to make the right decisions about Medicare and Social Security: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
39 47 1 8 5


"Who do you trust more to make the right decisions about creating jobs: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
38 47 1 9 5


"Who do you trust more to make the right decisions about health care: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
39 48 0 9 4


"When it comes to dealing with the tough choices involved both in cutting programs to reduce the budget deficit and still maintaining needed federal programs, whose approach do you prefer: the Republicans in Congress or Barack Obama's?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama Both (vol.) Neither
(vol.) Unsure
% % % % %


1/12-17/12
38 47 0 7 8


"These days, who do you blame more for the difficulties in reaching agreements and passing legislation in Congress: the Republicans in Congress, or Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress?"

Republicans
in Congress Obama,
Democrats
in Congress Both (vol.) Unsure
% % % %


1/12-17/12
46 30 16 8


12/5-7/11
42 26 22 10
</div></div>

So, yes, even now, after all the problems and still disapproval of Obama on most economic questions (he's in the 30%s on some of them!), it appears true that the GOP has indeed lost any hold on the public's belief that they are the fiscal conservative party or have any good plans for the economy.

Qtec
02-27-2012, 02:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's funny comeing from someone who just reposted someone elses post. </div></div>

LOL

Q

LWW
02-27-2012, 05:24 AM
Still waiting for an explanation of how the demokrooks are the true fiscal conservatives?

What's that?

It was on the spoon for y'all?

I guess, sadly, that's all it takes.

Qtec
02-27-2012, 05:43 AM
Compared to he big spending GOP, they are.

Q

LWW
02-27-2012, 06:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Compared to he big spending GOP, they are.

Q </div></div>

Present your case then.