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Drop1
11-07-2007, 08:01 PM
web page (http://) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071108/ap_on_re_us/homeless_veterans

Qtec
11-08-2007, 10:04 AM
Drop, its clear that those who support the troops don't want to hear this, much less discuss it.

Its a national shame IMO.

Q

Gayle in MD
11-08-2007, 10:24 AM
Even as bad as this sounds, the system is just as much a mess during the period when they are under medical supervision, after their surgery is complete, they are left to dela with their plight, on their own. If they don't have family to get involved, it's pretty hopeless. I've seen people who had awful cases of what they used to call shell shock, from all the IED's, only to learn, later, that they were sent right back over there. Suicide rates among those still serving, and those too incapacited to go back, are high. Divorce rates, are high. Many of these vets from Iraq, have brain damage, that hasn't even been diagnosed properly. This is a national disgrace. And when you start to work at making some progress to help change it, the blockades go up left and right, from the very government they so selflessly served.

I've seen poor treatment in the past, Vietnam, and both before and after, but this is the worst ever. There is no follow up to see that they don't fall between the cracks.

A lot of these vets, could be hired by our government, to work for the Veterans administration, as a back up, to follow up on the mental health issues that so many of them are left struggling with at the end of their service. There is a tremendous need for people to get involved in helping our vets. I've, sadly, heard the same excuse from supposedly patriotic Americans, "Let the government do it."

Pretty sad.

Gayle in Md.

LWW
11-08-2007, 11:31 AM
The treatment of mental issues has always been a problem for the VA with returning soldiers.

For one thing, it is difficult enough to treat with middle aged non traumatized folks.

Compound that with the fresh horrors of war, and the warrior mindset that most have developed and used as a short term mental shield and you have a recipe for a group which often needs help the most yet seeks it the least. The switch from soldier back to citizen is often more difficult than going from citizen to soldier.

If you know a returning vet and want to help the best way is to just be a friend. Past that, let them talk and open up. Much of the problems they face is just the matter of getting what they have experienced out in the open where they themselves can deal with it.

The same thing applies with a possible employee or coworker. If you remember how fast life changed during your 20's then imagine just the social impact of their experience. They have completely switched cultures ... and then came back to ours only to find that most of the people they knew have moved on with life and are scattered about the nation.

These are good kids, and often having a few someones who at least tries to understand what they have experienced is all they need for a short term adjustment back to this world.

If you have the ability to hire people I can tell you that I have found vets to be, as a group, the most disciplined and reliable subset of society to draw from. If you can't, put a bug in somebody's ear who can. Also, volunteer at a VA center. Work a weekend now and again at a shelter or food pantry or kitchen.

We ask an awful lot of our military, especially during time of war, and we as a nation owe them a handup getting back on their feet in American society. Each and every one of them has paid us for that help with interest in advance.

LWW

Qtec
11-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Yes, you ask a lot of the military but abandon them when they become inactive. ie they become a drain on resources, a burden instead of an asset.
The figures don't lie. Vets have never had and still do not have sufficient backup to help them get their lives back together after the stresses of doing multiple tours in combat zones.
Supporting the troops also means supporting them when they come home- something GW and the rest have still failed to do as the statistics show.
Q