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11-08-2007, 04:49 AM
Fraud is fraud first off, and is never OK.

When it enters into he media however, it becomes much more serious than a couple guys telling tall tales at a bar.

When it goes as far as creating or altering news in order to present a knowingly false view of current events and world history...well if we tolerate that, without regard to ideological bent, because it supports our "TEAM" then we have willfully followed and taken the corn while the gate gets locked.

In this thread I want to expose (Some for the second time.) some HUGE examples of this. Hopefully when put togetether in 1 thread it will have more impact.


11-08-2007, 04:50 AM
Dubbed the "LEBANESE PIETA" notice the following from the NYT:

Pay close attention to:

-He is supposed to be a victim in the rubble, yet doesn't have dust on him.
-He's sweating even though dead.
-He's clutching his hat under his left elbow.
-The shorts he's wearing.


11-08-2007, 04:51 AM

Next slide and he has risen from the grave!


Followed by the NYT hiring him to direct the scenes!


Followed by him helping arrange more "VICTIMS" for the photographers.



11-08-2007, 04:52 AM
Think this is right wingnut blogiverse stuff?

The NYT doesn't they buried a retraction of it:

“A picture caption with an audio slide show on July 27 about an Israeli attack on a building in Tyre, Lebanon, imprecisely described the situation in the picture. The man pictured, who had been seen in previous images appearing to assist with the rescue effort, was injured during that rescue effort, not during the initial attack, and was not killed.”<hr /></blockquote>


11-08-2007, 04:53 AM
HERE (http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/) is a situation where the LAT, NYT, BBC, and others ran obviously fake info accusing Israel of a warcrime.


11-08-2007, 04:55 AM
A Lebanese woman wails after looking at the wreckage of her apartment, in a building, that was demolished by the Israeli attacks in southern Beirut July 22, 2006. REUTERS/Issam Kobeisi (from Yahoo News)

So she moved, and then...

A Lebanese woman reacts at the destruction after she came to inspect her house in the suburbs of Beirut, Lebanon, Saturday, Aug. 5, 2006, after Israeli warplanes repeatedly bombed the area overnight.(AP Photo/Hussein Malla) (from Yahoo News)

Same clothes, same scar on her left cheek, same mark under her right eye. Two pictures of the same woman, maybe even taken on the same day.

Investigated by the blogiverse...but not the BBC:


She has become so popular with photojournalists she now sells cutouts of herself! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif



11-08-2007, 04:56 AM
And of course we have this from the NYT again:

Pakistani men with the remains of a missile fired at a house in the Bajur tribal zone near the Afghan border.

Demonstrating how US forces took an unexploded piece of Soviet ordnance, loaded it into a US missile, fired it at their home, and destroyed it...all without exploding.

Quite an amazing weapon!


11-08-2007, 04:57 AM
HERE (http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/davidpostman/archives/2007/08/a_newsroom_reprimand_at_the_times.html) is an example of the unbiased Seattle Times newsroom at work.

A newsroom reprimand at The Times
Posted by David Postman at 03:26 PM

Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman wrote today in one of his morning notes to staff that there had been "an awkward moment at yesterday's news meeting." That's the meeting where editors and other staff from throughout the newsroom talk about the stories planned for the next day's paper. Boardman wrote in "Dave's Raves (and the occasional rant)"

When word came in of Karl Rove's resignation, several people in the meeting started cheering. That sort of expression is simply not appropriate for a newsroom.

It sounds like a conservative's parody of how a news meeting would be run. I wasn't there, but I've talked to several people who were. It was only a couple of people who cheered and they, thankfully, are not among the people who get a say in news play. But obviously news staff shouldn't be cheering or jeering the day's news, particularly as Boardman points out, "when we have an outside guest in the room."

Jokes get made in newsrooms, of course — even what you would call gallows humor. And Boardman wrote that he was "all for equal-opportunity joking at both parties' expense." But he was clearly ticked off by yesterday's display.

As we head into a major political year, now's a good time to remember: Please keep your personal politics to yourself.<hr /></blockquote>


11-08-2007, 04:58 AM
HERE (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/19/AR2007081901418_2.html?hpid=news-col-blog) is KR's reply, and if you analyze it carefully you might get some insight on why the MSM hates him.

Footnote : In an embarrassment to the industry, some staffers at a Seattle Times news meeting cheered when Rove's resignation was announced. To his credit, Editor David Boardman made the incident public and warned that staff meetings should not "evolve into a liberal latte klatch." Rove responded by sending a basket of cookies to the newsroom, with a note saying "my wife shares in your enthusiasm."<hr /></blockquote>


11-08-2007, 04:59 AM
This from the AP and ran in the NYT with the obvious point being made that this "palestinian" had been beaten by the Istaeli.

Here's what the "palestinian" had to say in his own words:

Victim of the Media War
By: Tuvia Grossman

I was thrust into the international limelight when The New York Times and other major media outlets published a photo of me -- bloodied and battered -- crouching beneath a club-wielding Israeli policeman. The caption identified me as a Palestinian victim of the new intifada. In fact, however, I am a 20-year-old Jewish student from Chicago, studying at a yeshiva in Jerusalem.

Here's how it all happened:

It was the eve of Rosh Hashana, and I hailed a taxi with two of my friends to go visit the Western Wall. Along the way, the driver took a shortcut through one of the Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem. We turned a corner and suddenly there were about 40 Palestinians surrounding the car. Before we knew it, huge rocks had smashed all the windows of the taxi.

Some of the Palestinians pulled open the door and dragged me from the vehicle. About 10 attackers jumped on top of me, punching and kicking me. I crouched to the ground, and tried to cover my face to protect myself as much as possible. All I could see were a flurry of sneakers kicking me in the face.

Then I felt a strong pair of hands grabbing me, and I uncovered my face because I thought someone was trying to help me. But it was just another Palestinian; he held the back of my head and punched me square in the face. I fell flat on the ground and the Palestinians jumped on top of me again. One of them stabbed me in the back of my leg, ripping through muscles and tendons. Two other Palestinians held my head so I couldn't move, while two more bashed rocks onto my head... again and again and again.

By this time the beating had gone on for about eight minutes. I had already lost three liters of blood and was losing consciousness. I said "Shema Yisrael" -- the declaration of faith that a Jew says before he dies. I tried not to black out, because I was sure if I did it would be the end.

Because it was the eve of Rosh Hashana, the image of a shofar flashed through my mind, and I recalled a Biblical story I'd learned in school. The prophet Gideon and his 300 men were badly outnumbered against the Midianite army of 130,000. So Gideon's troops banged pots and blew shofars, hoping that the noise would scare the enemy. With God's help, the ploy worked, and Gideon won the battle.

So I yelled at the top of my lungs. The Palestinians were startled momentarily, and I was able to get up and run. Unfortunately, I am heavily nearsighted and my contact lenses had fallen out. So there I was -- barely able to see a thing, with blood pouring down my face and my leg badly wounded -- being chased up a hill by 40 Palestinians throwing rocks at me.

It was a miracle, but I somehow outran them and reached a gas station where Israeli soldiers were posted.

I collapsed on the ground, and that's when a group of freelancer photographers started snapping pictures. An Israeli policeman was protecting me, yelling at the Palestinians to back off from finishing the lynching. But the photo -- sent throughout the world by the Associated Press -- identified me as a Palestinian. The obvious implication was that the Israeli policeman had just beaten me. In truth, it was the total opposite. I was a Jewish victim of Palestinian attackers.

It's bad enough to be beaten bloody, get stitches up and down my head, and have my leg so severely stabbed that therapy is required to regain use of it. But to be used as a pawn in the media war, as part of the Palestinian propaganda to gain international sympathy, well, that hurts even more.

When a photo gets published, there are many links in the chain, and in this case, I don't know where the fault for the garbled caption lies. But it is deeply disturbing that the New York Times, the Associated Press (and everyone else in-between) assumed that if it's a victim, it must be a Palestinian.

There is a great struggle here in Israel and this event highlights the power of the media to influence public opinion. If truth is to prevail, we can't just "read" the newspaper. Be discerning and become part of the process. Otherwise, you're just a passive object of someone else's agenda.

Who are the innocent victims and who are the aggressors? The truth is often the opposite of how it appears. <hr /></blockquote>

DOUBLE STANDARD? (http://www.fraudfactor.com/ffmediafraud9001.html#photo)


11-08-2007, 05:01 AM
MORE (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/giuliani-demands-moveons-new-york-times-ad-rate-2007-09-13.html) of the same journalistic prejudice from the NYT.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said Thursday that he is asking The New York Times for the “same heavily discounted rate they gave MoveOn.org” for his campaign to run an ad in Friday’s paper.

Giuliani, calling MoveOn.org’s controversial “General Betray Us” ad “abominable,” said his campaign is asking the paper for a comparable rate for an ad to run following President Bush’s speech on Iraq.<hr /></blockquote>

And we still have people who believe they don't promote an agenda.


11-08-2007, 05:02 AM
I guess some do fake it! (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_en_tv/fake_interviews_3)
A former ABC News consultant fired last year because he couldn't authenticate academic credentials is at the center of a new dispute over apparently faked interviews with Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Gates and others.

The consultant, Alexis Debat, quit the Nixon Center, a Washington think tank, on Wednesday after Obama's representatives claimed an interview with the senator appearing under Debat's byline in the French magazine Politique Internationale never took place. The interview quoted the Democratic presidential candidate as saying the Iraq war was "a defeat for America."

Pelosi, Gates, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, former United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg all said they never gave interviews that appeared in the magazine under Debat's byline, ABC News' Web site, the Blotter, reported on Thursday.<hr /></blockquote>


11-08-2007, 05:03 AM
The NYT has been busted again.

The Times Magazine ran this:

Amorita Randall lives across the state from Christensen, in a small town outside of Grand Junction. She is 27, a former naval construction worker who served in Iraq in 2004. Over the course of several phone conversations before visiting her in January, I grew accustomed to the way Randall coexisted with her memories. Mostly she inched up to them.

On days she was feeling stable, she would want to talk, calling me up and abruptly jumping into stories about her six years in the Navy, describing how she was raped twice - the second rape supposedly taking place just a matter of weeks before she arrived in Iraq. Her experience in Iraq, she said, included one notable combat incident, in which her Humvee was hit by an I.E.D., killing the soldier who was driving and leaving her with a brain injury. "I don't remember all of it," she told me when I met her in the sparsely furnished apartment she shares with her fiance?. "I don't know if I passed out or what, but it was pretty gruesome."<hr /></blockquote>

Although, it is now confirmed that Amorita Randall is indeed a fraudster, The New York Times Magazine still is running an interactive that includes Miss Randall.

Here is the crazy correction:

CORRECTION: On March 12, three days after the article had gone to press, the Navy called The Times to say that it had found that Ms. Randall had never received imminent-danger pay or a combat-zone tax exemption, indicating that she was never in Iraq. Only part of her unit was sent there; Ms. Randall served with another part of it in Guam. The Navy also said that Ms. Randall was given the medal with the insignia because of a clerical error.

Based on the information that came to light after the article was printed, it is now clear that Ms. Randall did not serve in Iraq, but may have become convinced she did. Since the article appeared, Ms. Randall herself has questioned another member of her unit, who told Ms. Randall that she was not deployed to Iraq. If The Times had learned these facts before publication, it would not have included Ms. Randall in the article.<hr /></blockquote><hr /></blockquote>

So, they spoke with her since at least before January and never borrowed to check out the story.

Are they this inept, or were they happy to have found another Jesse MacBeth who told them the lie they wanted to hear?

SHAME ON THEM! (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/new-york-times-plays-ptsd-fool-for-iraq.html)


11-08-2007, 05:06 AM
grabbed THIS (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070814/photos_wl_afp/9b642ce03da0ca6ebe1cf275387d552c) off of Yahoo News. I downloaded the pic because I don't think it will survive the blogiverse assault on what is obvious Bravo Sierra.

Bonus points to any liberal member who can spot what the two for sure lies are?*

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/captsgekvv86140807212353photo03phot.default512x369 .jpg
An elderly Iraqi woman shows two bullets which she says hit her house following an early coalition forces raid in the predominantly Shiite Baghdad suburb of Sadr City. At least 175 people were slaughtered on Tuesday and more than 200 wounded when four suicide truck bombs targeted people from an ancient religious sect in northern Iraq, officials said.(AFP/Wissam al-Okaili)<hr /></blockquote>


11-08-2007, 07:09 AM
You need to get a job. Too much time on your hands. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

11-08-2007, 07:48 AM
+Hondo his job is to slay liberals. I know how he feels.

I believed Judith Miller, what she wrote in the in the NY Times. ####

11-08-2007, 08:11 AM
You guys kill me.

The Holy Grail of moonbat news sources is exposed as a pack of liars ... Jayson Blair anyone? ... and you 2 are bent that I pointed out to you how you have beenduped lo these many years.

It just goes to show you, some seek the light while others prefer the darkness.


11-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Sorry, O Wise One. I read the Clarksburg Exponent-
Telegram which is just as slanted the other way.
We don't get The NYT in my little burg.

11-08-2007, 01:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> grabbed THIS (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070814/photos_wl_afp/9b642ce03da0ca6ebe1cf275387d552c) off of Yahoo News. I downloaded the pic because I don't think it will survive the blogiverse assault on what is obvious Bravo Sierra.

Bonus points to any liberal member who can spot what the two for sure lies are?*

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/captsgekvv86140807212353photo03phot.default512x369 .jpg
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font class="small"&gt;Quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;
An elderly Iraqi woman shows two bullets which she says hit her house following an early coalition forces raid in the predominantly Shiite Baghdad suburb of Sadr City. At least 175 people were slaughtered on Tuesday and more than 200 wounded when four suicide truck bombs targeted people from an ancient religious sect in northern Iraq, officials said.(AFP/Wissam al-Okaili)<hr /></blockquote>

LWW <hr /></blockquote>

<font color="blue"> Just because they have never been fired does not mean a coalition soldier didn't throw them up against the house at a very high speed! /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif Who ripped her face covering off? </font color>

11-08-2007, 01:43 PM
Damn, I thought we had maybe developed a new secret weapon...reusable bullets...
So, I spotted the error right away about her not wearing her niqab....but darn if I can find the other one.
does this mean there was no raid...just another leftist liberal made up story and no suicide attack as well?...is that what them 2 unfired bullets really mean?
Next thing you know that woman will be claiming to have spotted Bigfoot, and that her children were kidnapped by a flying saucer...anything to make GWB look bad

11-08-2007, 01:50 PM
That's one error, the bullets hadn't been fired.

There is another EVEN MORE GLARING problem.


11-08-2007, 01:51 PM
Suffice it to say, if she did you would be a true believer.


11-08-2007, 02:17 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Deeman3:</font><hr>
An elderly Iraqi woman shows two bullets which she says hit her house <hr /></blockquote>

That's hilarious.

How many of today's journalists would catch that? Not more than half I would guess.

Well, to be fair, she did say only that they "hit her house". /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

11-08-2007, 02:23 PM
Look closely at the bullets.

I'm surprised nobody has seen lie #2 yet.


11-08-2007, 02:27 PM
See, thank you, you actually contributed something.

Now, let's look at your epiphany.

Who screamed that Saddam had WMDs stacked to the Moon from 1993 till 2003? The NYT and the Clintonistas.

Who do the moonbats blame for the NYT and the Clintonista errors? Bush.

I understand you probably don't get it yet, but at least you are trying.



11-08-2007, 02:38 PM
I can't see anything "more glareing" as you say than the bullets not being fired. I did consdier that they don't look like FMJ's but just can't tell from the photos. I also can't tell if they are not .223 or 30-06.

They do appear to be more like hunting rounds than military but size, without a reference better than the hands doesn't seem to help me. More glaring than the unfired slant, you got me. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

11-08-2007, 04:18 PM
Wedding rings on the wrong hand? It's really a man....or a really, really ugly woman? I give up.

When you have first-hand knowledge of events and then see it presented by the media, you realize just how inaccurate and biased they can be....even without intent. I actually wrote something up for a local journalist since we could not connect up for an actual interview. Even though he had what I "said" in writing, the article he wrote up was full of errors...not minor errors, but big errors. Doesn't matter if it's on TV, in a newspaper, magazine, whatever, you can rest assured it generally is not 100% accurate or honest about portraying all sides. As for TV news....look at their promos as an example of their goal....entertainment.....to sell stories.

11-08-2007, 04:34 PM
I believe the Nato 5.56 is a straight-walled cartridge. Thos look tapered like the AK-47 rounds.

11-08-2007, 04:41 PM
It's a 5.56/.223 round.

It doesn't have any spot of color on the tip to designate what type of round however ... as in ball, tracer, armor piercing.

This is civilian ball ammo that someone either brought over with them to "find" or (unlikely) bought from a local Iraqi sporting goods store.


11-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Darn, I was hoping it was the drool line from her bottom lip to her chin showing that she was actually from the same mental health facility as LWW. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif